I Have Discovered What Enters Holloway's Eye!!!

I think the wormy thing is some kind of parasite that comes from the Hammerpede when it infects someone... Holloway somehow gets infected with the worm/s and then makes out with Shaw in the bedroom. The worm then infects the embryo in Shaw and later becomes the creature that is operated out of her.

@Spartacus: I'm sure this is going to be a great film and all but I hardly think this is going to challenge every single persons view on the world (me included), especially religious people. It is just a movie made by a guy with some great ideas but it is not supposed to be taken seriously at all... Just like the Da Vinci Code.

I'd be astonished to learn how this, in any way, qualifies as an example of, "rational thought and logic".

@ spartucus you right..their is a storm coming and I am putting out the sails....I wanne ride on this....about high time somebody did something that will challenge the way people think and feel about the world and religion and our general nature....even poor Harry Potter suffered...not to mention "the golden compass".....can u imagine the outcry Prometheus might cause!

They get out form the mouth ... they get out from the chest ... they get out from the eye .... they get out from the belly ... they enter from the mouth ... they enter from the arm ... Shakes head, "Brilliant Frantz, just Brilliant" !!!

No Orpheus is safe in this film! Nothing!

They get out form the mouth ... they get out from the chest ... they get out from the eye .... they get out from the belly ... they enter from the mouth ... they enter from the arm ... no place is safe !! :D

and in the mist of it, Weyland finds what he was looking for, the perfect recipe of the best cup of Hot Chocolate in the galaxy...

[quote]I mean no offense at all, I had a very in depth conversation with someone tonight that made me think differently about everything I've ever thought. Religious and otherwise. I now question my own pitiful "existence" more than I ever have before. And I've questioned quite a lot to be honest..................[/quote] `````````````````````` I have warned people...everyone here about something from the start but no one wanted to listen to me...this film...is going to challenge every single belief every one of us who sees it had about religion, and mankind's origins and what religion, says about mankind's origins..I will NOT discuss that...I'm just telling you all to be ready for the storm that is coming. And that's not even counting the "Religious Groups" the world over that are going to be in a major dust storm themselves putting it mildly the day they all see this as well !!!

with things like this that never stops them, don't make me post recent examples. There was a film about Christ I recall not to long ago that sent them all into a Crazy Crying Game...no...?...

...besides it's "r' rated....maybe they won't complain too much?

@Shaw's_sweet_baby I did not say every person in the world...I said "every single person who sees it"... and that religious groups the world over are going to be in an uproar over it.

I think I have a cigar, half a bottle of bourbon and a personality that people can't handle. I've been drinking heavily at a party. So please, excuse me. I think you have a solid theory. I think it's all about DNA and how it can be adapted to different situations. A lot of people have theorized that the Derelict is an organic ship. The Engineers are EXACTLY that, Engineers of Life. They can do whatever they need to to create life, no matter what form it takes, no matter what they need it to do. The "stages" can be adapted at any time for any specific purpose. So the original Alien may have been perfectly adapted for use as a weapon against us, humans, because that was what the Engineers wanted. To destroy US as a species, because we attempt to take from them their God-like (and I use the term God loosely, we can define anything as a God if we believe in it strongly enough) SCIENCE. I mean no offense at all, I had a very in depth conversation with someone tonight that made me think differently about everything I've ever thought. Religious and otherwise. I now question my own pitiful "existence" more than I ever have before. And I've questioned quite a lot to be honest..................

In that thread that BH posted, titled "Disgusting Spoiler", where we see something coming out of the man's mouth and spews onto another crew member, it spews right onto Holloway and knocks him back to the ground and in one of the trailers, we see Shaw run over to him and say to the crew we are leaving, we see Holloway's eyes red and his head all messed up, I believe that is how he gets infected by running over to help Milburn and kneels down to help and BAM, right in the face and infected.

I do not, the way the thing that enters his eye, i'd say with almost 100% certainty {and if you look properly, just as it enters his eye it bends in a way that is remarkably identical to A "Murderous Thief"} that what that wiggly wiggly thing actual is...well...quite obvious...quite clear...and quite definitely the actual Predecessor to the XENOMORPH. It later becomes the fishtail thing we see, as well as it is what melts the helmet, it's the same organism we see in every shot, it is growing just like the Xeno did, but each different thing it infects or ever has infected changes it in whatever way...i'd say it's time to admit it, RS has in fact lied over and over and over to the press to protect the integrity of his baby and this story and there was NO way on earth he wasn't going to explore the origins of that thing, he would have had to have been nutz, you cannot pass up a one in 33+ year chance to go right back there, and with a Major twist, never seeing it again the same way, but rather seeing how it "became". To me that is pure Genius !!!

Holloway loses his humanity..by first getting infected by whatever is spewed out of the mouth of Milburn. Being infected Holloway claims he is okay but actually is not, sleeps with Shaw, gives her a gift, while he himself is changing and in the end Shaw is forced to kill him, as we see the large, Engineer looking shadow looming over her in the ship, which I believe is Holloway, he is no longer himself, loss of humanity, now an alien....

@Shilliam ... I think we can take the word SPOILER out of your thread title as there's no SOLID proof on your theory ;) ... and with all due respect ... rational thought & theory do not qualify as solid proof ;) ... we all have that here as we do NOT know anything about it and it's all speculation until we see the movie ... but we all love peoples sugestions ... it's what make this a great place to be ... :) ... I just don't want too many unnecessary 'Spoiler' marks in thread headers to confuse people ... ;) Good theory though :) ... I thought Holloways 'worm' came from water that dripped form the ceiling and so into his eye, no? ...

@Spartacus: Well duh... Of cause it could only affect someone who sees it. How else could it? I never said every person in THE WORLD either I just said every single person's view on the world. And yes some will probably be furious about it but not because it will challenge their religion in any way... Only true science can do that.

it's all too similar... every death in this film we've seen so far, to death by Xenomorph, to be anything else at all...and that's my story and I'm stickin' with it. Have since the get go.

Does everyone still believe the Proto-xeno crap????? Is it impossible for everyone to believe that this is a new creature???? I for one will be completely disappointed to have some unneeded proto stage thrown into the mix. It seems pretty obvious to me that the xeno's have been around for a while.

I think the hammerpede is actually a reference to the rolling Juggernaut after it has crashed with the Prometheus.

@ Spartucus i think i know which film you referring to....oh gosh religion is a tough topic....my best friend is very religious and we always stray clear of these topics.....cause we fight so badly that we don't speak for months....so i have plenty of religious people in my life....I am watching Prometheus with him...i wonder how his gonna view the movie....tho I have to say he is loving the trailers and even tho i explained that the movie might not entertain his religious beliefs...he seems very keen to watch it....I told him...remember it's sci-fi...anything goes...lol

Could very well be. It is certainly the begining of the life cycle of what will eventually become son or daughter of xeno!

....it's all about keeping an open mind....and tolerance......something we all need to exercise and also not necessarily an easy task!

i want only for all of us to get along and not to be divided in it...in any way at all but I fear that technology in, and the world today makes it quite easy for anyone to make their views known, no matter how different or radical they are and Ridley himself has stated this project involves some very provocative ideas, so I expect it, I would hope it did not happen but rather that we all could have rational and intelligent and respectful discussions with each other the world over about it's subject matter, but then I would have to be naive to think in todays' world that were even possible.

Quote: I have warned people...everyone here about something from the start but no one wanted to listen to me...this film...is going to challenge every single belief every one of us who sees it had about religion, and mankind's origins and what religion, says about mankind's origins..I will NOT discuss that...I'm just telling you all to be ready for the storm that is coming. And that's not even counting the "Religious Groups" the world over that are going to be in a major dust storm themselves putting it mildly the day they all see this as well !!! `````````````````````` I agree with you Spartacus.. ;]

and that's "pretty smart"{spoken like Amanda Plummer in Pulp Fiction} @Juxtapose... because just in our 1 on 1 dealings with each other compromise and tolerance are such very important things like in a marriage.

...yeah...oh sparky....we would make such a fine couple...pity u straight....lol.... ...all yokes aside.....in the absence of tolerance....I mean if we all tolerated one another.....such a boring world it would be!....I am sounding like Confucius....must be the alcohol...;)....and how very far we have straight from the topic...oh yes it was about the worm in Holloway's eye....hmmm?...wtf is that thing?

@genjitsu17 The image of the parasite in Holloway's eye bears a very strong resemblance to the first stage of the Alien lifecycle conceptualized by Giger in 197X. In Giger's famous illustration, the entire lifecycle of the creature is realized in relation to "humanoid" hosts (wearing strange, schnozzled masks). I think this is why people see this scene as evidence that a "proto" phase Alien appears in Prometheus. As the Alien appears to incorporate the DNA of it's host into it's next phase (alien/dog in A3) I'd guess that Prometheus will rationalize why the 1979 Alien was bipedal, had 2 arms, and fingers, but certainly did not look like a man in a rubber suit ;-)

There are some major major peices of that puzzle missing.... When Holloway is seen with the worm thing in his eye, he is looking into the mirror and i would assume he notices this after he and Shaw do some business in bed aboard the Prometheus.... Does he get effected first? I have noticed a few things you see.... Vickers is wearing her grey corp suit in the breifing room scene and then maybe Vickers room when she tells Shaw and Holloway they just bring samples back and if they find beings down there they do not talk or engage them. She is wearing the same suit when her David, Shaw and Ford are examining the Exploding Jockey Head. I would say Holloway gets the infection between those scenes, and when he takes off his helmet. But he does not know about his infection. I say this because we see Vickers in latter Scene say if your going down their you will die and she is wearing a black all in one like what 7 of 9 wears in ST Voyager. Now apart from the eye in mirror scene the other ones we see of Holloway are.... A Scene where he apears to be in pain and has something running though his veins... This leads to the scene when he is on the floor with sore/glazzed eyes etc.. We then see him being held up by Shaw and Ford and he holds his head in pain and collapses. Then we see him again, grey and swollen with his hands up trying to say he is ok..... this is where Vickers has the Flammer and tells everyone to get back on the ship. So does Holloway get onboard, and then gets better but then notices the worm in the eye? Or does he have that in his eye after a first mission down (recover the Urn and Jockey Head) and on his 2nd visit thats when we see his infection get worse? The first exploration aported early maybe due to the dust storm etc.... As far as Milburn Mouthburster well Fifield was the one behind him when he went to pick up the Cobraxeno, in the Hollomap F and M are together what looks on their own. I would say Milburns Face Burster jumps at or sprays something on Fifields mask and then we see his mask melt.