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Mithra
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 5:49 AMAny one got any thoughts about the following?...
Looking at the temple(?) holograms on board the Prometheus....the spiral corridors(?) higher up look to me to be some kind of filter/diffuser design. Do you think these huge buildings are in fact the equivalent of SJ terraforming factories? If so....perhaps the thought is that they once built them on Earth to get the show moving down here, and the whole pyramid design thing in human cultures came from there...with ancient civilisations discovering their very ancient crumbling remains? just interested in the fact that there are more than one, and in very close proximity. If it were a temple...it would be just that "a temple"...not a string of them so close together. The only exception being if they were tombs.....(i.e. Valley of Kings / Giza Plateau / Sakkara etc)I see a purpose in there being so many.....hope Prometheus takes in more than just the nearest one to the ship in the movie.
Also...Does any one think that with the uniform design of these structures that the Prometheus crew discover, that there is a juggernaut ship in an underground hanger, between each one as well?
Would love to see more in the air towards the climax of the movie......
BTW...these are just "thoughts" and not "beliefs"...so open to challenge, input and ideas....
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Havok1071
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 6:33 AMI think you make a great argument. Weyland developed atmosphere processors, but possibly got the idea, or found evidence of, existing tech right here on earth. We already know the big blue guys (who in my opinion aren't the SJ's) visited earth a few times, so it makes sense that they would set up the processors, seed the planet, then head off to the next world, and so on. In Weylands TED speech he states that "we are the Gods now". To me, that doesn't mean it's all about David, it could be about the processors and how we are transforming worlds or as the slogan goes..."Building BETTER Worlds"

David 1
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 7:41 AMthat is actually a very debatable concept a la "chariots of the gods" and "ancient astronauts" hype these days.
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]

Mithra
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 7:54 AM@David 1
When I was a kid, I got a copy of the Chariots of the Gods at a jumble sale. Being about 10-11, I thought it was great until a friends dad told me that the author was a convicted conman. Since then...I never paid any attention to him. I since found out that a lot of his evidence/photos was falsified or doctored to prove his points.
That's not to say that I don't think some of the ideas being used (potentially) in Prometheus are not really cool.

Macs
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 8:27 AM-Reasonable argument for the story I think.
-On a way-off tangent, It does seem that there is a lot of resemblance between the human engineering, terraforming, grand-scale architecture, human-form and organic art, of the Alien culture and ours, to the point where the relationship might be closer than what it appears, perhaps? Maybe it was technology created by Weyland disguised in theatrical, alien-looking form and "put to the test" on unassuming young guinea pigs? I mean, the "serpent", the skeletal figures, the life technology, all could be biological defense mechanisms being tested out. That is Weyland's business after all, isn't it?

NoXWord
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 8:30 AMI think of it backwards.
Scott & co wanted to use some old concepts that they found good. One of these was the building designed by Giger for Dune. So they got one cool looking item. What's the purpose for this? And then they moved on from that point. There are chambers beneath it which appear to have different purposes and there is that helical feature inside it with a long vertical shaft in the middle, plus there is at least one hangar, so they might serve some technical purpose.
How much this alien race mixes temples and utilities is not known, but the hypothesis that they might be atmospheric processors is a very good point.
Or maybe they're just some space cider mills.
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born.
Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.

Mithra
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 8:41 AM@ NoXWord
Well we know there's a big extra terrestrial / cider connection......you only have to look at Wookie Hole!!

Mithra
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 8:50 AM@Macs
Hey...could you elaborate on that...I think I'm getting you, but want to be sure.
Cheers

Macs
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 8:59 AM@MIthra
There is really nothing more to elaborate, but in a nutshell, could it be this Alien world they discover is just a testing ground for new Weyland technology? It's way out,I know...

Mithra
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 9:08 AM@Macs
Yeah..interesting.
I can see how you could derive that. What if Weyland industries had information on the SJ's. Perhaps sending probes to the planet ahead of the Prometheus (the usual method we use in exploration). Then deciding to steal their tech but also be able to send a "don't f**k with Earth" message to them by not only trying out new firepower on them, but also bio mech weapons such as David to infiltrate and infect them. Then coming back as a hero and getting unlimited defence contracts to "protect the Earth". Sweet.

David 1
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 9:09 AMMithra:
I can't seem to get my hands on that book. Neither any of Timothy Goods' [man, that sounds... bad...]
I like the theory behind it though. There are a lot of videos on YouTube about it, but many of them are from the New-Age point of view [wich I couldn't care less about].
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]

Macs
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 9:29 AM@Mithra
-It seems that we have nothing to envy from the Alien technology:
Alien Technology | Human Technology
"Life" tech. | David 8 (A.I.) (well their's a little cooler)
Holograms | Holograms
Anti-Gravity | Anti-Gravity (In Promethues ship)
Space Travel | Space travel
Cool Architect. | Cool Architec.
Space Suits | Space Suits
Well, looking at it, they seem to be afflicted by our same kind of afflictions, don't you think?

Mithra
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 9:41 AM@Macs
It sounds like the SJ's have religion as well...so that should slow them down a bit ; )

Holden_on
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 9:46 AMi like the theory of atmosphere processors. however, history shows us that the pyramids were built by tens of thousands of slaves. there are only 3 engineers credited... Last Engineeer, Ghost Engineer, Sacrifice Engineeer... that leaves yet another untold story. has there ever been a prequel of a prequel made?

Mithra
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 9:53 AM@Macs
I think Weyland would be very interested in the bio tech of the SJ's that brings maturity in an organism within days. Imagine how quickly you could create an army!!! You can even use the enemy as breeding vessels for your own army.

Mithra
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 10:00 AM@Holden_on
Yup..."our" Pyramids, built by man took tens of thousands of slaves to build. But who knows what technology could be bought to bear by a race that travelled across the stars to come here. Also, the pyramid builders / slaves usual resided in nearby temporary dwellings and the many non-slaves employed for set periods of tenure, would disband and go home afterwards, so you wouldn't necessarily expect them to be in or operating the finished structure.
If they can work at a molecular level.....can you envisage a ship in low orbit utilising what to our tech today would be like a 3d chemical printer to build rock structures with intricate internal tunnelling and then finishing off the blanks with bio mechanical material...or similar.
Whatever they used....I don't think they would take as long as us.
That said...having been inside many pyramids....I think we did pretty damn good as a species with our engineering : )

Ebugogo
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 10:33 AMGive these people air!!
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5x9HXwlkBo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5x9HXwlkBo[/url]

takka_takka_takka
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 10:34 AMTo support the atmosphere generator idea, there does appear to be an atmosphere inside the structures. That's probably not accidental. Given the weathered appearance of the structures and signs of erosion in the environment it seems likely that the location at one time possessed an atmosphere of some kind. Could be this place was at one time quite nice and sputtered out or was transformed into the wasteland it now appears to be by some past event.

Ebugogo
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 10:38 AMThe whole idea of air generators goes back to John Carter of Mars, and if you check out the books, you'll see that the whole evil "Elder Ones" idea also came from those books, long before Lovecraft, but he definitely took it to a whole new level. Before that, we the whole Greco-Roman mythos which is probably the most pure template for Prometheus. Titans and Engineers are pretty much the same kind of evil beings.

Mithra
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 10:44 AM@Ebugogo
He he....I'd forgotten all about that....no wait!......It's all coming back, like my memory had been partially erased or something ; )
M

Mithra
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 10:48 AM@takka_takka_takka
I was interested to note that there was breathable air inside. So they need to create an atmosphere on the planet to be able to venture out themselves. Or perhaps they are building Earth2!

Indy John
MemberOvomorphOct-25-2012 7:54 AM".. testing ground for new Weyland technology.."
Far out ..or not,,Weyland needed to have labs and testing stations somewhere,,
Sort goes in the thinking the Creators must also needed 'testing planets' for their endeavors..
Be choicelessly aware as you move through life

Indy John
MemberOvomorphDec-07-2012 1:16 PMAlien Technology | Human Technology
".."Life" tech. | David 8 (A.I.) (well their's a little cooler)
Holograms | Holograms
Anti-Gravity | Anti-Gravity (In Promethues ship)
Space Travel | Space travel
Cool Architect. | Cool Architec.
Space Suits | Space Suits"
It seems to me that while we may not be as scientically advanced as the Engineers Weyland has attacked all of these areas. Although achiving different results both entiries achieved great success in their own world.
The Last Engineer does see us as a biological threat but as a business threat. Weyland has alwasy looked for biological advances and this moon holds the mother of all. David, trying to procure some Goo is figurativly over his head.
Now Shaw and David are on the next leg of this business trip to secure a distribution system for the Goo.
Looking back at Alien we know this is a doomed adventure.
Be choicelessly aware as you move through life

javablue
MemberOvomorphDec-08-2012 2:55 PMWeyland probably was an Engineer. I don't mean space jockey - they're just us.

Anunnaki50
MemberOvomorphDec-12-2012 6:25 PMWhy does every body read Erik Von Danikens books, how about you read Zechara Sitchins books instead and you'll get a better idea on who the Engineers were based on. Have any of you read actual ancient texts or do you just assume everything? I have a background of archaeology and if you listen to alot of mainstream scientists and inverstigate using real methods you will find out most of the time that they use conjecture too. Pyramids were meant as a landing corridor a type of articial mountain as landmarks, the Sumerians called them the Ekur or House which is like a mountain. If you can read cuneiform and or heiroglyphs like I can get back to me OK.
The Anunnaki were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, mighty men of high reno

Indy John
MemberOvomorphJan-05-2013 11:05 PMEnglish is more than I can handle and will not attempt any text in cuneiform. I'll let job to the experts.
In giving the well some some thought it is significant in that it leads directly down from the tunnels and as i recall directly up. This is a reference to conect heaven and hell with is much of the theme of our movie.
To it is clear that the Domes are the corridor for the Engineeers to inflict their control on their Universe.
Humans have been a part but arer now on the undesireable list.
I sort of like the thinking that at the base of the well are the eggs so mysteriously guarded by the SJ in the 'Alien' movie'.
THe well it's self is deliberately made to allow the proper 'air' circulation to be as an incubater for the 'eggs'.
Then loaded up in the Juggernauts and sent on theor way to any plabnet to wipe out undesireables.
I ma not sure that the below the 'egg' layer has been mapped. But deep in the bowels of this moon lies another secret not yet revealed..
This is the den.of Queen xenos cast into the pits by the controlling gods in the battle for the Universe.
The Engineers and Crerators think that this grouping of xenos will be enough to insure continuity in this Universe.but they are wrong. Terribly wrong.
The domes on this moon are very significant in the Engineer world But in the total scope of the Universe and ultimate power they are just the pawns being played by the real 'gods.
The real 'gods are **(&%^&* and (*(&^ which will be revealed in Part 2 of our prequel series and ultimately in part 3 lead to a full explanation of the SJ and his cargo of 'eggs'.
Be choicelessly aware as you move through life
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