Space Jockey To Engineer: “You Complete Me.”

Neurion
Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphMay 14, 20121218 Views27 RepliesEngineer to Jockey: “You had Me At Hologram.”
Could it be that the Space Jockey and the Engineer beings are two completely different forms of life, who work together in a symbiotic relationship, each having their own brain, and or other respective organs, etc…
Two beings that act as one, when necessary and or beneficial.
I know this kind of stuff has be touched on, but I couldn’t find a close enough pre-existing topic/thread to add to.
If this is the case, maybe all sides of The Great Space Jockey Skeleton Debate can be satisfied.
Thoughts?
~N
May 14, 2012
@Proxy
Okay, what about at least...extra-terrestrial slavery, with one of the two beings being the boss.
~N
May 14, 2012
Spartacus...Haha...you assjack! Just humor me with an actual response.
Do ya think this could be the case?
May 14, 2012
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May 15, 2012
Space jockey (elephant headed alien in a suit).
Engineers - guys in a suit which are threat to both humans and SJ's. Human like appearance (blue guy near the waterfall).
Uncertainty is the only certainty there is, and knowing how to live with insecurity is the only security.
May 14, 2012
Any official news? Are they actually separate races.
I'd like to think they aren't. Engineers=Dirty. Can't wait to see them in action.
May 15, 2012
Forever War - Just to add, and I have been banging on about it since I joined this site when it began - I'm with you all the way dude - In Alien the JOCKEY IS A SKELETON -ANCIENT REMAINS - Plain and simple - This is the stumbling block I have been finding hard to get past since Ridley announced it was a ..........suit???? (Lucasville). That just stinks of Lindellof injection.
May 14, 2012
I think the Engineers "wear" the Space Jockeys. Don't know if the suit is sentient or not, but if it is, it helps the engineer willingly.
What level of coercion occurs between them is unknown.
Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!
May 14, 2012
As someone here I will not name once said...if that line "You complete Me" is uttered anywhere near me either on screen or off the night I see this, I am walking right out of the theater at that moment!!!
May 14, 2012
In Spaiths originally supposed leaked script They were !
The Engineers "Towered" in size over that race of beings...by huge amounts of measured feet !!!
I liked Spaiths or whom ever's original idea a heck of a lot more !
May 14, 2012
I'm just thinkin'...the original SJ was three or four times the size of these Engineers guys. You know, like Kuato compared to guy who hosted him.
May 14, 2012
I think yes, theyre 2 different species, but I don't think it's the kind of relationship the Space Jockeys had in mind beforehand.
When I think of the map room, I see places that the Engineers went in the past, we see David in there, piddling around, finding the Earth. To my mind, earthlings are not the first to visit this planet- the hologram log, for lack of a better term, shows running figures that I don't think are human and they may be the Space Jockeys. These ghostly figures don't appear to me to be running off calories, they look like theyre running for their lives.
I think the Space Jockeys, at least the ones pictured, were captured by the Engineers and used as unwilling pilots for the Engineers purposes. Probably they were altered to the point of being trapped in a ship, like the one in Alien, with the ship grown around them, unable to free themselves..slave pilots.
Meanwhile, the engineers have the mobilty to get into and out of other types of ships they have, slipping easily into the pilots position. This is one of several possible ways that Ridley can get around what I find is a massive glaring FU to continuity...in Alien, that is a skeleton sitting in that chair. It was a skeleton when Alien opened and it's a skeleton now and I dont care what anyone including Riddles himself says NOW about it.
If Ridley can pull this off and explain this..cool, I'll give him a shot, otherwise he's gonna be wearing George Lucas' suit and reputation, in my crazed opinion.
May 14, 2012
FROM THE FAKE SPAIHTS SCRIPT !!!
A L I E N H A R V E S T
by
Jon Spaihts
based on characters by
Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Schusett
darksp8s@gmail.com
Quite an experience to live in
fear, isn't it? That's what it is
to be a slave.
--Roy Batty
If one took one's eyes off the
maddening images on the
television, one began to think of
other images, of the city one knew
and recognized, lived in and loved
the way you love a person.
--Tom Piazza
FADE IN:
EXT. PLANET - DAY
Wide sky tinted mauve. Below are rollings hills, mustard
hued and speckled golden.
In the distance are tall crops and a row of
extraterrestrial beasts of burden, swinging scythes.
Another row of these GRUNTS, which resemble bipedal mules,
follows raking the crops into sacks.
Two members of another species oversee everything.
Standing over fifteen feet tall and wearing simple robes,
the GROWERS (i.e., “space jockeys”) occasionally turn their
elephantine faces to the grunts.
But the growers' attention remains on two humans, FIN and
KARIK, in the foreground.
FIN
The good news is you'll never
have to swing a blade; the grunts
do the heavy lifting. The bad
news is we're responsible for
squeezing out more bushels from
each acre.
KARIK
OK.
Karik sports a crew cut and looks bewildered. Fin is
taller than him and has a beard.
FIN
Over there, it's like hominy.
I've been weighing each stalk, and
2.
FIN (CONT'D)
based on that, I decide which
patches pollinate and which don't.
Karik, you getting this?
KARIK
Do you--can I have some water?
FIN
Yeah. Hey. Why don't you
sit down.
Karik staggers, drops to one knee, and Fin steps up to help
him. Off to the side, a grey tabby CAT crouches in the grass,
stalking something. Her pupils are dilated; her butt
wiggles. A grower studies the crops then turns its attention to its
feet. There's the cat, with a small orange animal in her mouth.
The cat drops her kill at the grower's feet and lets out a
little meow. The grower looks delighted and laughs.
CUT TO BLACK
A beat. We hear a low mechanical moan, wind rushing, then
a crash.
INT. GROWER'S SHIP - COCKPIT
The grower's eyes open, startled. It looks around to
determine the source of the noise.
EXT. GROWER'S SHIP
The ship is a figure eight, two toroids pressed together;
the lead toroid is slightly smaller than the rear one. The
ship is spiraling out of control into the atmosphere of
some planet.