Space Jockey To Engineer: “You Complete Me.”

@Proxy Okay, what about at least...extra-terrestrial slavery, with one of the two beings being the boss. ~N

Spartacus...Haha...you assjack! Just humor me with an actual response. Do ya think this could be the case?

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Space jockey (elephant headed alien in a suit). Engineers - guys in a suit which are threat to both humans and SJ's. Human like appearance (blue guy near the waterfall).

[b]Hot-Boxophagus[/b] LOL It sounds so sweet when ya roll it off the tongue man !!!

Any official news? Are they actually separate races. I'd like to think they aren't. Engineers=Dirty. Can't wait to see them in action.

Forever War - Just to add, and I have been banging on about it since I joined this site when it began - I'm with you all the way dude - In Alien the JOCKEY IS A SKELETON -ANCIENT REMAINS - Plain and simple - This is the stumbling block I have been finding hard to get past since Ridley announced it was a ..........suit???? (Lucasville). That just stinks of Lindellof injection.

Can I steal that? I wanna use it tomorrow at work

I think the Engineers "wear" the Space Jockeys. Don't know if the suit is sentient or not, but if it is, it helps the engineer willingly. What level of coercion occurs between them is unknown.

In my best Mike Myers' "Linda Richman": "Talk amongst yourselves..."

As someone here I will not name once said...if that line "You complete Me" is uttered anywhere near me either on screen or off the night I see this, I am walking right out of the theater at that moment!!!

Work together in a symbiotic relationship seems like a little bit too sunshiny for me.

In Spaiths originally supposed leaked script They were ! The Engineers "Towered" in size over that race of beings...by huge amounts of measured feet !!! I liked Spaiths or whom ever's original idea a heck of a lot more !

@Spartacus I never read that script. Thought I read it was bogus.

I'm just thinkin'...the original SJ was three or four times the size of these Engineers guys. You know, like Kuato compared to guy who hosted him.

I think yes, theyre 2 different species, but I don't think it's the kind of relationship the Space Jockeys had in mind beforehand. When I think of the map room, I see places that the Engineers went in the past, we see David in there, piddling around, finding the Earth. To my mind, earthlings are not the first to visit this planet- the hologram log, for lack of a better term, shows running figures that I don't think are human and they may be the Space Jockeys. These ghostly figures don't appear to me to be running off calories, they look like theyre running for their lives. I think the Space Jockeys, at least the ones pictured, were captured by the Engineers and used as unwilling pilots for the Engineers purposes. Probably they were altered to the point of being trapped in a ship, like the one in Alien, with the ship grown around them, unable to free themselves..slave pilots. Meanwhile, the engineers have the mobilty to get into and out of other types of ships they have, slipping easily into the pilots position. This is one of several possible ways that Ridley can get around what I find is a massive glaring FU to continuity...in Alien, that is a skeleton sitting in that chair. It was a skeleton when Alien opened and it's a skeleton now and I dont care what anyone including Riddles himself says NOW about it. If Ridley can pull this off and explain this..cool, I'll give him a shot, otherwise he's gonna be wearing George Lucas' suit and reputation, in my crazed opinion.

It was real cool I will see If can post a passage here right now hold on....

FROM THE FAKE SPAIHTS SCRIPT !!! A L I E N H A R V E S T by Jon Spaihts based on characters by Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Schusett darksp8s@gmail.com Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave. --Roy Batty If one took one's eyes off the maddening images on the television, one began to think of other images, of the city one knew and recognized, lived in and loved the way you love a person. --Tom Piazza FADE IN: EXT. PLANET - DAY Wide sky tinted mauve. Below are rollings hills, mustard hued and speckled golden. In the distance are tall crops and a row of extraterrestrial beasts of burden, swinging scythes. Another row of these GRUNTS, which resemble bipedal mules, follows raking the crops into sacks. Two members of another species oversee everything. Standing over fifteen feet tall and wearing simple robes, the GROWERS (i.e., “space jockeys”) occasionally turn their elephantine faces to the grunts. But the growers' attention remains on two humans, FIN and KARIK, in the foreground. FIN The good news is you'll never have to swing a blade; the grunts do the heavy lifting. The bad news is we're responsible for squeezing out more bushels from each acre. KARIK OK. Karik sports a crew cut and looks bewildered. Fin is taller than him and has a beard. FIN Over there, it's like hominy. I've been weighing each stalk, and 2. FIN (CONT'D) based on that, I decide which patches pollinate and which don't. Karik, you getting this? KARIK Do you--can I have some water? FIN Yeah. Hey. Why don't you sit down. Karik staggers, drops to one knee, and Fin steps up to help him. Off to the side, a grey tabby CAT crouches in the grass, stalking something. Her pupils are dilated; her butt wiggles. A grower studies the crops then turns its attention to its feet. There's the cat, with a small orange animal in her mouth. The cat drops her kill at the grower's feet and lets out a little meow. The grower looks delighted and laughs. CUT TO BLACK A beat. We hear a low mechanical moan, wind rushing, then a crash. INT. GROWER'S SHIP - COCKPIT The grower's eyes open, startled. It looks around to determine the source of the noise. EXT. GROWER'S SHIP The ship is a figure eight, two toroids pressed together; the lead toroid is slightly smaller than the rear one. The ship is spiraling out of control into the atmosphere of some planet.

What are you doing over here Sparty LOL...

CAUSING A STINK !

And I was wrong, the Jockeys are still in charge, but I was right they are much much much bigger here...like by 6 feet at least...And...there ARE 2 seperate races of aliens involved aside from Humans !!!!

@Forever War I like and agree with your ideas. The "George Lucas suit" line cracked me up. Maybe Rid Scott should've consulted with you and I, before proceeding with the production. Ha! ~N P.S. Even the ALIEN soundtrack titled the music for that scene, "THE SKELETON"

Thanks...I just feel that whatever story we see must have a flow that fits on the screen without tons of dialogue explaining every last detail....there are many great ideas online that are creative, and novel...and also complicated to the point of lending themselves more to literature than film. Really, the ideas I have come not from what I desire this film to be, but what I find logical given the info that is now available, including interviews from Scott, Lindelof and Spaihts...its not only what they say, but how they say it that may be the most telling of all to me.

@Neurion YEAHHHHHHHHHH...Those are Jockey's I wanna see. As close to what was originally intended as possible.

The suit is organic. Maybe heightens Engineer abilities. Regardless of what it's actual functions are. I'm pretty content on it not being another species. Would be...A bit ridiculous. Although i discussed it's function of high-tech hot-boxing, or was that the sarcophagus? ...Oh, yeah, that's right, it's a massage chair. Once an Engineer has gone through heavy Hot-Boxophagus use, he then proceeds to the chair for back, neck, and scalp stimulation. It'll pull a number on you, im sure...

The High Priest Chariots of the Gods + Temples + Spacesuit With Load Bearing Structural Members Resembling Bones But Not Bones + Metro Archaeologist mit Scarf + Uber Hoodie Wearing Jackass = to me, a Lindeloaf getting baked and frosting applied. Despite all this, I will cut Ridley's space until I see the film...he has done so much quality work that I can't ignore the possibilty that what he said was....well, frankly, I dont know what to think about it. With Alien, Ridley had the advantage of a torpedo...almost total surprise, he caught so many people off guard in those days. With Prometheus, he doesn't have that advantage, but what I am seeing here is another device in play...masterful misdirection on a scale I have never seen before. It's the size of that effort that has me convinced that at least Ridley believes he has a big one for us. I will wait and see the film....right now I'm on the fence.

Yes it looks like a Skeleton but Ridley had said its not...... Things change, Ridley has decided to change the look of the Derelict to make it less Organic, that dont mean that the Derelict in Prometheus is a completely different kind of ship.... So you dont buy the Giant Humans (or not so ;( in suits theory?). So whats the explanation for the Space Jockey suits on the walls? Just Statues? I am with the Engineers being in the suits..... But after the last shots i have seen, well i think unless Ridley has a good twist and explanation the Engineer seems to change size lol.. i predict major Ridley Screw Up myself.... unless the one at the end of the movie is a transformed crew member which i doubt. You see the guy in the seat and guy standing near chair looks big compared to the 15ft archways leading to the Orrey Room The one who attacks Shaw on some ship maybe Prometheus... well he is 8ft in high heels....