Eridu has been staring us in the face

[img]http://gnosticmedia.com/gallery/d/2238-1/Eridu.jpg[/img] Tadaaaa!

good point

if you stretch any ancient myth with a bit of imagination it wll fit into any Sci-Fi film [i]somehow[/i] IMO..then even the most childish ancient astronaut BS will fit.. ;)

Well the script in prometheus for that reference was not that childish attempt. In ancient hinduism, sumerian and many other cultures, there indeed are paintings of vimanas aka airplane aka UFO. Though for us it is hoax and ancient BS but the fact can't be denied that those cultures painted them, to pass the information about such events.

Kane 77: Perhaps, but this a link the movie makers themselves are teasing us with.

Ah, that photo. The god Enki or the Great Dragon, found at ahem *Eridu*, and dating from from the al-Ubaid period [circa 4000 B.C.]. Space Jockey! I love the way this movie dives into the hokiest Von Daniken silliness and makes it fun. :)

We dont know for sure..... some jump on the ancient cultures a lot where many different civilisations depict and describe simular things with no contact with each other.... Even some of the stories are simular to some parts of the Bible that many take as Gospel despite some of its stuff being more in the land of fantasty than.... now i am stuck as a lot of Fantasy is more real..... erm.... the Smurfs! that would do. And then some on the other side take the whole Evolution with its few holes and Big Bang with no real proof as the other side of the bargin.... Myself i dont think we would ever know the true reasons behind where we come from....

yeah, and once popular hoaxers like [url=http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/ancientastro/ancientastro.htm]Sitchin[/url] fooled many people.. Prometheus will be a great Sci-Fi, and[i] for that[/i] these ancient astronaut stories are great..( there are threads already about that, too)

@kane77 ....That site you linked....doesn't even use accurate information or sources. I could completely point out the false claims on there. How was Sitchen a hoaxer? Do you even know what a hoax is? Adapa is actually the Babylonian name for Adamu (Sumerian) the first Human Man. Oannes is often equated to Adapa/Adamu. He was said to have the body/skin of a fish, though underneath it, he resembled a man. The symbol for Jesus was a Fish. Jesus referred to himself as the Son of Man. If you read the Sumerian/Babylonian account of Adamu rejecting the Food of the Gods, it shows that Original Sin in the bible/torah of the humans in the garden is a lie. It even further points out that the "sin" wasnt even commited by a human. The "original sin" was Enki imbuing Man with an immortal soul. (fire of the gods). This is why Enki told him not to eat. It would change him into an abomination. Generations later, Enlil found out about Enki's "sin" and allowed a flood on the Earth to kill the humans (primate and Annunaki hybrids) and the "Abominations/Nephilim/Anakim" (Igigi and Human hybrids) without warning. Enki went and instructed Ziusudra/Utnapishtim/Noah (purest descendant of Adamu) to build the ark. *edited by the staff*

I wouldn't categorize Stichin as a hoaxer; that would imply that he was deliberately trying to deceive people. He more like a pseudoscientist or pseudohistorian. I think he sincerely believed the things he wrote about. Galzu, perhaps you don't think you could be "intellectual" or "factual" (what does that mean, specifically?) with Kane77, but you certainly can be with me. So I ask you: can you point out to me the false claims made on the website Kane77 linked to, or the inaccurate information/sources it cites? Thanks.

The temples you saw in the trailer is built on the past river bed.

This discussion is fascinating! And the various folks of various backgrounds, focuses and passions in here chatting about it make it all the more so. I had not noticed the directory name as Eridu. More than making me think that everything in the story precisely mirrors Gilgamesh or similar, it leads me to believe that the folks on the show (making the movie) referred to the Engineers' "complex" as "Eridu" because that was a handy name for it and because a lot of of the motifs are inspired by Sumer. @Davis, the word "valley" is used in the landing sequence and that would have been cut by a substantial river, which by the time of the "king has his reign" segment was probably what we see as Dettifoss in the trailer. Of course, I'm guessing on all of this. Thank you for your "creative contribution" to the discussion. That valley setting reminds me a lot of Teotihuacán. The valley walls are not as well defined (not as close) there in Mexico, but it's still evocative of the setting in the film. [img]http://www.dartmouth.edu/~izapa/teotihuacan1p.gif[/img] @Galzu, You really seem to love humanity's history and ALL of our mythologies. I imagine that if you and I compared libraries, there would be a lot of duplicate authors and titles. I think you make a really important point, that many of the most noteworthy events recorded in the Bible (Noah's flood, etc.) are actually much older stories that were woven into what I call the "authority of Moses". And, I think this points to the bigger picture of how I imagine this movie being made. The idea of the Annunaki/Oannes/Watchers/Nephilim/Angels are all mixed up and interwoven into various (very different) traditions, some of which exist still only in "lost history" and others that are very real in modern society. [url=http://www.ufo-contact.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Ancient-Annunaki-Sumerian-Gods-Sacred-Pine-Cone-Fertilization-Pineal-Gland-Cave-of-Brahma.jpeg][img]http://www.ufo-contact.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Ancient-Annunaki-Sumerian-Gods-Sacred-Pine-Cone-Fertilization-Pineal-Gland-Cave-of-Brahma.jpeg[/img][/url] It seems to me that Thor's having appeared in the [i]Avengers[/i] is very much a parallel. He is a god and not of this earth. The Hulk has his "powers" conferred by science/genetics as does Cptn. America. Iron Man's is all mechanical. Black Widow and Hawk are "normal" humans with extraordinary training. In fact, we can map (albeit artificially) Thor (or better Loki) to the Engineer, Iron Man to David, Black Widow to Shaw, Vickers to who knows what, and dump them all into a bowl, stir and get a story out of that which still resonates with our "sense of human experience". That's one reason why Avengers is such a box-office success. It fundamentally does not violate our sense of "something that is familiar and plausible" in the context of an existential threat. It doesn't matter how "out there" it is as long as it comes from our phychosocial "roots". Now, all that said, it does seem that Ridley and the production were very focused on Sumer. I think that makes perfect sense because: (a) Sumer is the earliest literate culture on earth and the cradle of our human [u]civilization[/u]. (b) Their language is an isolate. It cannot be mapped to have a genetic (linguistic) relationship to any other human language. That makes it seem like it might have been taught to humans by "others" (though that's certainly not likely the case). (c) They wrote and left records that are mysterious to all but a handful of Sumerologists, because only they can read them. The vast majority of those texts are not very interesting (so many sheep, so many cows, etc.), but they LOOK exotic and mysterious. The writing in the film is roughly a 50/50 atmospheric mix of Sumerian cuneiform and Egyptian hieroglyphics. I will be thrilled if they have done some kind of legitimate linguistic work to come up with a spoken language for the Engineer, but I'm not excessively hopeful. There definitely was at least a NOD to this however. Dr. Anil Biltoo, a pedigreed linguist from SOAS (University of London) is on the project as a character (teacher), and this shot shows actual cuneiform (from Earth) in the data cube: [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/uploads/prometheusmovie_11512_1.jpg][img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/uploads/prometheusmovie_11512_1.jpg[/img][/url] (d) The Sumerians and the Akkadians after them lasted for a very long time; as did the Egyptians mentioned above. I think the Sumerians are a better choice for a "model human culture" in this film because, while very important, they are not as well known as the Egyptians to the modern world's populations. They are a bit more mysterious. I can't WAIT for the film, but also for the ART book, because I won't be surprised if a lot of this didn't come out of the art department's research into how to best connect our "ancient aliens" legends to the world of the xeno zeitgeist. I'm sure that Ridley had a heavy hand in it, because he's so artistic in "that way" too.

Appreciate the responses family.... I respect and "revere" all of our people's histories. Its really all we have about the true past and each other. I believe all Holy Religions are different roads to the same place. Instead of arguing over which road, i choose to learn the whole map. What i do not respect is others who try to nixx anything that doesnt belong to them, isnt for them, and IS NOT forced upon them. Kane77. "Only in the Matrix of all Ideas can the Truth be Known"- me Anyways about the sitchin link. Theres alot of incorrect counters on that site. For example, just on the first page it claims "sitchin makes no distinction between" the hierarchies of the heavenly/Gods when in fact he clearly does. i.e. The page says Sitchin claims there's no difference in the Nephilim and the gods or the fallen. This is not the case. in his books he clearly states that the Gods are Annunaki(Eloyhim), the igigi(Watchers,Archons, Angels, Fallen Angels) are a separate race that the annunaki used as "slaves/workers". Some Igigi revolted and demanded a "bigger stake". Enki decides to fashion a new worker. Humans. Some of the still rebellious Igigi lust after the earth women and procreate with them creating "Nephilim". The Nephilim are NOT the same as the Human/Annunaki children. (Enki has many sons with earth women and they are righteous MEN(Line of Adamu,Abraham,Noah. etc) During this time, a lead Rogue Igigi (Watchers/Archons), who is an Annunaki/Igigi hybrid (Marduk/Ra/Lucifer), begins creating and taking over cities with the intent to overthrow the Annunaki structure. They begin the idea of one god instead of many (which is true (creator of all)) but they are telling the humans they are the one god. They rule through fear and violence telling the humans they are guilty upon birth. They bring evil into the world. Enlil tries to stop this via the flood, but Enki has an issue with that. He Loves the humans. LOVES them. So he tries to save the purest lineage of his first " human son" Adamu via Noah/Ziusudra. 6 Distinct "Beings" Annunaki (Eloyhim) Igigi (Angels,"Sons of God") Humans (Primate and Annunaki Hybrids) Nephilim (Igigi and Human Hybrids) "Sons of Man" (2nd and 3rd generation Annunaki and Human Hybrids) Marduk/Lucifer (Igigi and Annunaki Hybrid) Thats just one example on the first page of that link. *edited by the staff*

History Channel Ancient Aliens series produced by Prometheus Entertaintment. End of discussion. Heeee... heee... I don't call it valley because valley usually carved by live river but call it as past river bed because once before that place looks like a big river but they are gone.

You can hear part of the story of the Igigi (also: ‘Igigu’) revolt here in the [url=http://youtu.be/_q-8ot4-K80]original Sumerian[/url] as read by Sumerologists from Cambridge.

Let's respect each other guys.....

Galzu wrote [i]my response about the factual and intellect towards Kane77 was because he is always coming into historical threads and nixxing/poo poo ing anything that is non Christian. It gets annoying to most of the people in the thread (most of us to tend to post around the same the topics). What is really bad is the guy shows no modesty. He never really contributes or continues the topic focus. We are all entitled to our opinions, but that doesnt mean we have to voice them when they arent constructive.[/i] - do your research on topics. If you would have done that, you would know that the archeologist´s site will know better than you or me. - your personal insults on me or my opiniions fail completely. - I had to report to staff for your insults.. sad. grow up, learn, be open minded to other people´s opinions, read less Sci-Fi or Däniken, but only ONE serious book. thanks