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Melkor

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 9:41 AM
Seems to me the ending - from what I have read from other spoilers- could well be that you are expected to surmise that the derelict on LV-426 is the ship that Shaw steals- that SHAW is the 'SJ'' there that we see in ALIEN.. David could well have crashed the ship, and made the warning beacon, knowing Weyland Corp may pick it up in the future. Corny.
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Kanderson

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 9:51 AM
Sounds pretty close, the one thing with that is, would that mean that Shaw gets into the seat? and if so she is just soo small in comparison, i don't even think her body could fill have of that suit. and the hole in the chest of the SJ is just so huge? **but actually if Shaw is infected I guess she could mutate into full size? sorry i may have missed a spoiler about Shaw. but i do believe that Shaw, David and hopefully Vicker's do steal the ship that crashes into the neighboring planet, but i still think that the SJ in the chair comes along for the ride.

Myrddin365

MemberFacehuggerMay-29-2012 9:58 AM
I think that what happened on LV-223 happened on the Juggernaut en route to its destination. The Engineers can get infected by xenos and one did, so it set down and kicked off its warning beacon.

Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!

Gavin

MemberTrilobiteMay-29-2012 10:12 AM
don't forget the scene with shaw in medical robes, lashing out at two people with hazmat suits on... i suspect she intends to use the derelict on LV-426 but is stopped somehow by David. The she wakes up in a Weyland or Weyland-Yutani lab as the information regarding the Derelict on LV-426 is taken/given from David - hence how the company knew it was there... Now we just need to know how they knew the Xeno was there and what it was...

Deckard_B26354

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 10:28 AM
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER! SERIOUSLY IT"S THE ENDING! Shaw steals the ship with her baby and the last Engineer on baord. The Engineer is impregnmated and killed by her baby. She and the remains of David head toward the Engineer homeworld to try and stop them from destroying earth. That's the end. Doesn't seem like Shaw and David get to far and crash land on LV-426. OR they don't and it a totally different Engineer on LV-246. That obviously will or wont be descovered in the sequel. Seems like it'd be a short film if it is the same ship on 426.

Deckard_B26354

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 10:30 AM
Man, it pisses me off when the edit post function doesn't work right!

Gavin

MemberTrilobiteMay-29-2012 10:34 AM
- SPOILER - This is a quote from the end of Wiki's plot summary... "Shaw recovers David's remains from the bridge of the crashed alien derelict and uses his knowledge to [b]activate another Engineer ship[/b] in order to travel to the Engineer's home world in an attempt to stop them from using their own biotechnology." @ Deckard - No mention of the baby and last engineer, and it doesn't actual say they do go to the engineer homeworld, but that its their intention. LOL, even the wiki plot summary is open to interpretation...

Deckard_B26354

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 10:40 AM
I did interpret it wrong. That's why I wanted to edit it. If you read the last part, a little more than you quoted, it talks about the Engineer and baby happening on a smaller transport/ship. I somehow missed that when I read it and thought it took place on the Jugg. Also, I read somewhere that the last Engineer is actually chest-bursted. The person who wrote it had everything else spot on. Wonder if he was full of shit?

Gavin

MemberTrilobiteMay-29-2012 10:44 AM
Well it does say that Cuddles impregnates and then kills (???) the engineer. This could be its way of breeding, but I seriously doubt it will be the chestburster. IMO its always best to look for info from more than one source, that way if they match its true, if they dont then one or both are lying.

Drakeequation

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 10:49 AM
I think Cuddles kills the Engineer through the process of forcefully impregnating him.

Juxtapose

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 10:58 AM
......and theirs the rape scene....!!...;)

Gavin

MemberTrilobiteMay-29-2012 11:05 AM
@ juxtapose... 1. There is no rape scene 2. If your comment was in jest, it was also in bad taste 3. we do not need to be reminded of those days (if you know what i mean)

db

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:41 AM
Remember that the SJ pictured in the Prometheus trailer sitting at the cannon-thing is much smaller than the one seen in A L I E N. If it's Shaw and she dawns the snork-gear to run the Juggernaut, then how does she quadruple in size some 30 yrs. later? Is it part of the "SJ-super-speed-fossilization- process"?

nuorigin

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:44 AM
So, I've heard everything from the endings above, to an ending where David is the origin of man through time travel. This movie can't come fast enough. It will be really hard not to spoil myself the week prior to the US release.

Grindolf

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:50 AM
Total bullshit

Powereddie

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:54 AM
But, what about Shaw´s: "we were so wrong, they are not what we thought they were", or somtehing like that. I think they find Shaw in a escape pod and tells the ordeal. She is obviously traumatized by the events that unfolded during the mission, and at the slightest touch or gaze of the hazmat suit guys, in shock she responded aggressively.

Juxtapose

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:54 AM
@ snorkelbottom ...it was a little joke btw!.....c'mon... !! It was perhaps not in good taste... I don't think it's as bad as many who speculated that the engineer was gonna violate Shaw....at least now we know that this is as close as we ever gonna get to rape in Prometheus... and some parasite sitting on your face...I would hardly call that rape!....so it was just a joke to clear up all those old speculations...so no hard feelings...I can tell you the infamous "ashbuck" is not gonna be pleased!..;)

azalard

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:54 AM
The plot synopsis on Wikipedia was a very brief rundown. Some movies listed on Wikipedia will have very in depth plot details. This one didn't. I expect this information to change as we get closer to the official release date. In the meantime, I will just regard it as a 'teaser' until I actually get to see the real thing in theaters. Thankfully, despite this leak, I am truly not disappointed. Actually, I am much more excited now about the movie than I was in the past. I am truly looking forward to it!

nuorigin

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 12:06 PM
What about RS and everyone else involved, including in the featurettes, stating that this isn't an ALIEN prequel? Also, even if we presume Shaw grew by 5 feet, and was infected and the baby burst out of her chest AND the new xeno was a queen and laid all of those eggs that were in the derelict ship's cargo bay, who put the laser warning system in place that was triggered in ALIEN?

Drakeequation

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 12:46 PM
I personally don't think that Shaw is the Space Jockey in the original Alien. It is possible that there are many such craft in the Engineer race's fleet and the real set-up to the events in Alien will occur in the sequel to Prometheus. A great deal still has to happen before that cargo hold gets filled up with eggs! lol

darthmongo

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 1:10 PM
Asked if a sequel would be a direct prequel to Alien, Lindelof said "if we’re fortunate enough to do a sequel... it will tangentialize even further away from the original Alien." With that in mind, I wouldn't get too worked up about a set-up to the events in Alien. Seems to me that they want to take the franchise in a different direction, which I'm completely fine with after the original storyline was driven further into the crapper (in my opinion) with everything after "Alien Resurrection" (including the AvP movies).

Outlander

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 2:06 PM
Wikipedia seems to have wiped their plot summary.

Rubirosa

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 2:54 PM
Right!

motion3

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 4:18 PM
I wouldn't necessarily trust anything on Wikipedia. Anybody can make an quick edit which gets nuked hours later.

bishopplm

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 5:23 PM
i dont see where we are getting Shaw turning in to a space jockey? it's obvious that the crew went to the engineers for answers and one of the crew steals the terraforming code from the engineers. this is what pisses off the jockey's in to unleashing the bio weapon. the engineer, not shaw, was in route to earth to unleash weapon.

artyoh

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 5:42 PM
No way Scott would try to pass off Shaw as the SJ in "Alien." No way Scott would try to pass off the ship in Prometheus, as the derelict. That is not how this movie ends.

Myrddin365

MemberFacehuggerMay-29-2012 7:16 PM
@ Artyoh, I agree that the movie's ending does not lead there. I'm saying that we are expected to infer what occurred with the original juggernaut from what we see happen in this movie. LV-223 is the sight of a biotech equivalent to a nuclear meltdown. The original Juggernaut was filled with eggs because that was its payload. It never had urns with ampules inside them.

Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!

artyoh

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 8:55 PM
That wasn't necessarily directed at anyone in particular. I've been consistently saying that there are two ships since the beginning, for reasons that should have been obvious the very first time we got a look inside the juggernaut. The "one ship" theory has been like a vampire that just wouldn't stay down no matter how many stakes had been driven through it.

Tom31

MemberOvomorphMay-30-2012 6:00 PM
Before viewing the film i assumed the planet was in fact the one from Alien- and I still do! Space jockey is not in his seat at the end of Prometheus but that may be a pointless mystery (did he survive long enough to crawl back there...). Or a liberty taken with the continuity because it creates a surprise effect... I was wondering how one of Shaw's last sentence could be interpreted, is Shaw wondering why the engineers wanted to destroy man after creating it... Or why they changed their mind and let mankind live in the end ? Because I felt her quest to seek their planet was more a in hope that communication would bring her faith back( hence the crucifix) than with an intent at revenge! I dont expect a Prometheus 2 personnaly, this one is self sustaining and a good philosophical plot would be spoiled with answers.
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