Well done Ridley!

Fair play to ya deano I salute you

I won't pretend, I do not like Prometheus. However it's not because I'm comparing it to Alien (which I will admit is one of my favourite ever movies. I just felt that there were a multitude of faceless characters in this movie that came and went without saying or doing very much. The soundtrack is completely disengaging and does not in any way fit the grand ideas of this movie. It actually slows the pace and weakens the tone in many scenes. The aliens (bar the superb king cobra which we had already seen in the trailer) were limp and unadventurous. Just my opinion of course but this forum does ask for constructive opinion. Fassbander saves it otherwise, mega-disappointed! Fresh blood needed for the sequel(s).

Lol when you get two people sign up to a forum only a few days ago only to tell people who have been discussing this movie for several month that they are geeks and don't apreciate it.

I certainly didn't call anyone a geek. What's more I'm talking about the movie not you. Do you have to have 'discussed' this movie for months before offering an opinion?

@tubbs Not at all. All opinion is welcomed, I actually wasnt addressing you and I think i was in the wrong thread to boot

Apologies for jumping in there.

Apologies for jumping in there.

No worries we are all friend here. Even when we give each other some stick.

Prometheus has great visuals, actors, especially character beautifully performed by Fassbender - the rest is so poorly developed you can't tell if it's really Ridleys movie, but a joke, don't want even mention the script - basically Lindelof wrote this script for a fucking hipsters with teenage-like acting characters like he did with Lost. This Chinese copy of xeno in the end...*sigh* Situation reminds me of Metallica and Lou Reed collaboration in the way how fans try to ignoring the fact that album was complete garbage and letdown. p.s. sorry for my english if something, i'm russian

I signed up to this forum months ago. I dont call ppl who didnt like Prometheus geeks. I am talking about geek-communities like this one on this board. About half the geeks here like Prometheus...including this geek.

[i][u][b]Galactic North[/b] spoke thus:[/u] Prometheus has the most interesting characters in the 'Alien franchise' ...fact [/i] I'm not being contrary for the sake of it, but I have no idea how you would back up that assertion. And please don't fall down to that "my opinion = fact" , I think you were reflecting it at someone else, but it's still lame. Lets list our characters. [b]Shaw.[/b] Not actually interesting. Naive turning to brave, but not actually interesting. Tougher than one would expect from how she behaves, stands and speaks. That's not enough to make her interesting though. She's too obviously the channel for the philosophical questions of the film. [b]Holloway.[/b] goes from looking at old rocks at digs, to seeing an actual extra terrestial species on a distant planet, and acts like it's the biggest let down ever. Gets drunk, has sex, after awkward converstation with Shaw in a scene that wouldn't be out of place in a run of the mill soap opera, other than the fact that the bedroom is trillions of kilometres from Earth. [b]Vickers.[/b] Could have been interesting, but her character was written to be as flat as she ended up. Envies the throne, driven, yadda yadda yadda. [b]Captain Janek,[/b] the outlines of a good character were there. Wasn't carried away with the mission, practical guy, knows a fine looking woman when he sees one, but is curiously under- concerned for the fate of two of his passengers in a weird alien tomb, seeming lost (for no apparent reason, when there's a 3D map of the place available to them. ) Sure, he's going to do the right thing to save earth, if he has too, pity we hardly get to know him. [b]David.[/b] Solid performance from Fassbender. Written differently from cold, detached Ash or reliable, and likeable Bishop. But still, not much of interest. He's been given secret orders, and carries them out, like HAL in android form, and he has a pinocchio complex, which is blunty put to him and the audience more times than is necessary. [b]Weyland.[/b] Old rich man doesn't want to die. Wants to achieve what nobody else ever has. This is not new. It's not even new to Ridley Scott movies. Milburn - Tries to be friendly, gets rebuffed and does little of interest (except perhaps to behavioral psychologists who might ask "Why, after being terrified of this place with the giant pile of dead space jockeys, no idea what killed these towering creatures, would he have no caution at all in extending an arm to the first nasty looking creature that comes to check him out. ?" Fifield - Started off with a promise of potential, a counterpoint to the idealistic Shaw, and delivers his best line very well, about wanting nothing to do with headless giant aliens. And despite being the guy responsible for mapping the place, manages to get lost in a tunnels that they already have 3D maps of. [b]Scottish doctor,[/b] whose name I don't even care about. Can't remember what scene she died in. [b]Pilots[/b] - comic asides - banter, and bravely sacrificing themselves with the ship. Can't even remember their names. [b]Space Jockeys /Engineers[/b] - Not very interesting characters on screen. Given the appearance of Greek Gods, rather than properly unfamiliar creatures, they exhibit themselves as entirely nasty, brutal, and empty of compassion or remorse. Those characteristics are just fine and dandy in their creations, but uninteresting aspects of their creators. One of them wakes up to find humans have travelled a gazillion miles to meet them, and one of the human creations is addressing it in it's own language. In a most unpolite manner it eschews the formal hello, instead ripping throwing and beating like David Banner in a very bad mood. Rather than being curious about them, I tend to share Janek's position "I don't care" and if it were a warship I think he would have been more than inclined to "nuke the site from orbit" rather than try to start up diplomatic relations. More Interesting characters from the Franchise than the ones we met in [b]Prometheus[/b]. [b]Ripley.[/b] - she doesn't want to be a hero, but she's not going to trust the company not to bring Xenomorphs to earth, she's not a dreamer, she's a survivor and a doer, and her character has many facets, from tough to funny, gentle, caring and of course "get away from her you Bitch" determination to protect those she cares about. A brilliant character. Well balanced. [b]Hicks[/b] - reluctant to take command, but good at his job, willing to take good advice, and supportive to his marines when they're shaky. [b]Clemens[/b] the doctor, [b]Andrews[/b] the Warden, and [b]Dillon[/b] the prisoners spiritual leader from Alien 3 were more interesting than most of the cast of Prometheus. [b]Bishop[/b]. Lance Henriksen rocked that role. More developed character than Ash (although Ian Holm can't be faulted for his cold evil performance). Interacts in trivial bonding activity, volunteers for a risky mission, and has a dark sense of humor about it. Actually, even [b]Gorman[/b] was more interesting than the average prometheus character. [i] Prometheus has one of the more original and thoughtprovoking scrips in mainline cinema the last 10 years ...fact [/i] There is little original or thought provoking about it. If you happen to be interested in the exogenesis mythology, then it will feed that for you, but I don't think it's otherwise provocative. AVP had mixed hieroglyphics from an alien source. There's nothing novel about the meeting our maker in space concept. It's been done before. The script hints at something that might be dealt with well in the next installment. But this script itself is flat, unoriginal, and uses a sledgehammer rather than a chisel to sculpt the concept for us. [i] it cannot be denied unless you are 9-year old and pissed off that Ridley Scott doesnt do what you would like him to do.[/i] I'm not 9. I deny your facts. I don't expect Ridley to tailor his work to my whims. I do expect, having forked over my cash, that the film is worthy of my time and price of admission. Great special effects and amazing backdrops won't do it for me. They advertised a story as if it was crafted with all the skill of previous work. It fell far, far short.

The only thing I can think of is that maybe this movie will be redeemed by possible sequels by other directors and, most importantly, other writers. It just fails to stand on its own as a complete film. This is definitely one of those cases where groupthink is to blame. If Ridley had shown this script to a few more outsiders and a few less yesmen it would have been scrapped.

Actually, much as I dislike this film, I think they [i]might[/i] make a better job of the next one (hopefully with decent writers). The one good thing it has going for it, is that it ended on a real 'to be continued' point. both Alien and Aliens had endings that did not [i]need[/i] to be continued. What ruined Alien 3 and 4 for me was the tortured premise for bringing the characters back into the nightmare. Jim Cameron managed a good plausible reason that also justified a change from horror to action. There's only so many times you can pull that off, especially with a character who doesn't [b]want[/b] to go around being Rambo in space. Fincher's premise involved a mystery egg on the Sulaco, which is hard to explain. And don't even talk to me about "Resurrection" having anything like a plausible premise. At least the start of the next one should have an easy job in justifying where it's coming from. Shaw differs from Ripley in that Ripley wanted these things dead, so they would pose no more risk to anyone. Shaw shares a desire to protect earth but also she wants to "connect with her maker" and seek answers to big questions. Not my cup of tea, but a character's motivation isn't necessarily going to put me off. What does worry me is that Shaw, rather than being a fully fledged well developed character is mostly a vessel to draw out the philosophy of the film, which should be left to the unfolding story rather than the heroine's rambling beliefs. Some of the poor scripting, in my opinion is down to poor craftsmanship, and some can be explained (if not justified) as leaving down markers for the next film (not something I have much respect for, considering time intervals and rising cinema ticket prices and how corny or overdone some of the markers are). I'm not going to go to the sequel in the cinema, unless someone whose opinion I trust tells me it's a vast improvement on Prometheus in terms of script and delivery. Otherwise, the next installment will be a rented DVD or some form of paid-for-download .