annoying setup for the xeno

blake_84

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my brain is just about fried thinking about this xeno mystery. from what we know, the engineer and those eggs are currently on 423 at the time of the movie, and the movie says the bodies date 2000 plus years back. im willing the go as far as to say the ship that dropped the sacrifice engineer off is the crashed ship on 423. ....either way 2000 years ago...thats after christs death, a definate connection. now as to the xeno...hmmm...idk how you can go from having two totally different methods of this alien forming. either we have eggs, or we have a cum tube, pardon my french, that "weaponizes" shaws egg. but those are squid based. i dont see anything that looks like that squid ANYWHERE on the ship. hypothecially speaking you could say the eggs in the derelict are just eggs that goo got on and they grew like the worms and now there "weaponized" with the alien dna now. but i doubt it, cause thatd be VERY disappointing. and the whole worm thing is completely useless. itd of been fun to see them go farther with it all. i would of even been ok with the "proto xeno" getting grabbed by this worm and the xeno that came from that is the official alien. i really dont know. my brain hurts. but frankly, come on, if there are more of these engineers and they have this weapons storage and this crash landed ship on 423 don't you think someone would have noticed or shown up by now? idc how much of optimist you are, scott seriously muffed up something good. he didnt explain the alien, and the space jockey is really just us with a suit on and we know close to nothing about them. im sure he'll get his shit together with the second one and explain it.

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June 08, 2012

sorry for the bad grammer. i was typing as i thought

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June 08, 2012

and to add something, there's nothing special about the engineer dna. its the exact same as ours. that black exterior is just a suit, if you seen the movie youll see they're white as a ghost without it on. i just wanted to say this, cause people forget obvious things like that

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June 08, 2012

"Im sure he'll get his shit together with the second one and explain it". I really wonder. Think how hard it would be to sensibly, "explain", the hot mess you just described in the words you used before this sentence - and then doing that in a film that also has it's own function to progress a story? I mean....... That's why getting this film right would have been so absolutely critical.

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June 08, 2012

I would explain it like this, of course as it turned out I was absolutely right and every form we saw all came from the exact same organism, in other words each creature we saw was all part of ONE THING! That said I called it from 2 years ago, what we saw was different stages in a LIfe Cycle that was triggered 100% by DAVID8 ALONE who "stole the fire" !!! As far as I can tell he made a GENIUS decision and decided to make us all wait for what I suspect will be the BEST part, the PART in the next 2 films where he slowly feeds you all the answers you ever wanted regarding ALIEN.

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June 08, 2012

@Spartacus well first id like to start out by saying good job..? i dont really know how your "completely right" but i can DEFINITELY tell you that you are super humble...lol ANYways. that still doesnt even explain it, we have the tube worms. and the eggs. a squid, and a facehugger. not same organism. while david did steal the fire, the eggs from the 423 ship are what causes alien, which is said to of been there before prometheus, and therefore cannot be the alien we know from the 1979 movie.

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June 08, 2012

Sparta, i followed a lot with you, but DAVID8 ALONE and stole fire not that much no

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June 08, 2012

@allinamberclad EXACTLY, i dont know how he'll do this. forget about the small stuff being explained. i think the big stuff will be explained for sure. but right now im burnt out on the alien future. i was here everyday reading and thinking how good the plot would be. but the movie was absolute shit. id be SOOO embarrassed if i was ridley scott at the premiere. he really could of done something special. but just like all greedy people, he just started something else and threw in ties. i think at one point he did plan an alien prequel, but then was like "*takes a hit of joint* you know what would be halarious? if i made a movie about the origins of life and threw a whole bunch of shit in from alien and blade runner to confuse the hell outta people." remember when scott said he wanted to scare the shit outta people? i think he wanted to CONFUSE the shit outta people.

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June 08, 2012

@blake_84 "...but frankly, come on, if there are more of these engineers and they have this weapons storage and this crash landed ship on 423 don't you think someone would have noticed or shown up by now?" A. I couldn't disagree more my fellow fan, i think Ridley has it right. Remember in "Alien" the beacon was a warning to stay AWAY, not to come help. The Engineers would not come since they knew what disaster had probably taken place. The only beings that would show up would be the ones not able to decode that it wasn't a distress call, or those going on purpose...and there's your 1979 film. :)

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June 08, 2012

http://www.whatis101112.com/ damn you....just when i think ive had enough they come out with another viral site for something bein released in october. lets see...gets outta theaters in july, comes out to video october or november...hmm.. i did hear something about an immediate part 2, and it would come out same time as the part 1 on dvd. thanks to harry potters box office standings, for without that this part 1, part 2 thing probably wouldn't of been done.

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June 08, 2012

There's an interpretation that I read in which the black goo infects and mutates organisms into powerful and violent forms of themselves. The worms mutated to superworms. The geologist mutated to... whatever he was. The squid that came from Shaw is a chestburster thing (different because it is the product of human-goo recombination). The eye worm.... might be a mutated and aggressive sperm cell? Yeah that works. But all of this doesn't bear any fruit, really. I think we miss the point when we get bogged down in the biological plausibility of the movie. For example, how do engineers and humans have the "same" DNA? They're very different. If total plausibility were a big deal to the filmmakers, they would have given you a percent homology or something like this...There's more going on in the movie. Some are questioning the creators here. I thought the movie was clear about the dangers of that.

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June 08, 2012

Um..for some reason, I find the fact of that website very, very annoying. I almost feel like answering, "Who really gives a f**k?.."

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June 08, 2012

@dannyblaqvideos hey, you disagreeing doesnt hurt me at all my man, your completely right and i overlooked that. i still dont buy them being so advanced and being afraid of this signal, but what you said does make that plasible

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June 08, 2012

@pol III yea, the weaponizing theory has been going around now. thats why i said the eggs just being infected. and totally unrelated about the holloway eye thing. i did think it was kinda funny, because of the phase "just a glimmer in your fathers eye" the alien was a glimmer in his eye at one point. could mean nothing, but it could be subtly.

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June 08, 2012

Are you saying the cylindrical urn containers are eggs? I don't think so. As far as weaponizing theory, I think it's stronger than a theory isn't it? I've read some issues that some people have had and I think there's something to be said for some of the finer details not being ironed out to the point where there is absolutely no confusion and everything makes sense. Unlike Alien, there's a lot going on in this movie. I think that was inevitable, and when movies do this, things get comprimised. Overall, the constraints that the people making the movie were operating within are clear. But ultimately the characters and the big ideas are the reason for the movie. I found it entertaining from that perspective.

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June 08, 2012

@pol III nope. idk why you would comment on my article without reading what i said. "hypothetically speaking you could say the eggs in the derelict are just eggs that goo got on and they grew like the worms and now there "weaponized" with the alien dna now. but i doubt it, cause thatd be VERY disappointing." the derelict is on 423, the egg ship. and i'm pretty confident scott will fix this in the sequel. this was just to vent. we'll be happy in the end

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June 08, 2012

as for the weaponized theory, i feel like david when he tells charlie its a hypothesis for a reason. its not proven.