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Nuck Chorris
MemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 2:08 PM[b]10 Points I expect from the sequel[/b]
1. to come fast, dont want to wait till 2015 to get the puzzle fixed
2. screenplay by another writer, dont trust lindelof at all, dont like his pseudo-intellectual riddler-style
3. weird creator homeplanet/technology that is complete different then we would expect. No cliches, pleaze!
4. some intelligent (!) philosophy about source and dumbness of religious beliefs.
5. a plot that makes me shit my trousers and freezes the blood in my venes. A plot that changes my life...
6. Answers to all major questions of part 1 (meaning of sacrifizing engineer, where we invited to the weapon planet lv-223, who made the engineers, whats the purpose of them, why they wanted to distroy mankind, who did make us, why are we here)
7. deep, unexpected and desillusioning philosophy about the "meaning" of mankind (maybe we were not created, maybe earth was just some kind of "dna waste planet" where the creators desposit their not needed dna and/or poison waste and by pure random these stuff leaded to evolution and mankind? Would be happy if there comes out that life just means nothing at all - our existence is banal and we are no part of a higher plan. Brilliant!
8. dont want at all some "simple" cliche/pseudo-moralized answers like "mankind became bad so they wanted to destroy us" or "creators give us a last chance" blah (like in the day the earth stood still. i want ANSWERS and no new QUESTIONS!
9. some explanation about xenomorphs - designed, or created by accident?
Maybe see the development process / some alien scientific experiments...
10. NEW ideas! NEW philosophy! DEEP thoughts! Unseen Look! Make my brain and heart BURN!
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sukkal
MemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 2:27 PM[i]1. to come fast, dont want to wait till 2015 to get the puzzle fixed[/i]
Agreed, but 2015 seems more likely (at best). Ridley has LOTS of irons in the fire.
[i]2. screenplay by another writer, dont trust lindelof at all, dont like his style[/i]
I seriously doubt he'll be on the next project. All indications point in that direction.
[i]3. weird creator homeplanet that is complete different then we would expect[/i]
Don't hold your breath. The Engineers are modeled off of Greek and Roman statuary, and Arthur seemed rather comfortable working on Gladiator. LOL. I predict that the home world architecture will skew towards the motifs of the exterior of the Juggernaut at best.
[i]4. some intelligent (!) philosophy about source of religion[/i]
"Intelligent" is in the brain of the beholder. I am hopeful that the hints for this (in terms of the Engineers' religion) will begin falling into place when the redacted "Sacrifice Ceremony" footage is returned to [i]Prometheus[/i] (presumably in October). If you want to know where HUMAN religion comes from, I would suggest starting with "fear of the unknown." You might even be able to [u]end[/u] there as well.
[i]5. a plot that makes me shit my trousers and freezes the blood in my venes[/i]
I think this will depend largely on the nature of Engineer culture on their home world at the time that Shaw and David show up, presuming they make it that far. If the Engineers have gotten themselves into a particularly desperate situation, you may even get some feces in your veins.
[i]6. deep and desillusioning philosophy about the "meaning" of mankind (maybe we were not created but exist by pure accident or earth was just some kind of "dna waste planet" where the creators desposit their not needed dna and/or poison waste and by pure random these stuff leaded to evolution and mankind? Would be happy if there comes out that life just means nothing at all - our existence is banal and we are no part of a higher plan[/i]
You may want to just go on and make that solution up for yourself. I seriously doubt that FOX would go for anything [u]quite[/u] that dark. Most nihilists are not prone to rush out to put on 3D glasses and pay $15~30 to reconfirm their suspicions.
Ruhaniya
Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 2:45 PMhold off on the space squids and cobras lets see some real aliens...I know that's kind hard a cause truthfully humans might be the most precious creation in the universes. If you don't believe that then your just a monkey scratchin your ass....completely lost and perfect prey for aliens to suck your brains through your eye ball T.v.S They invading VIA a delicious black goo in a can
Nuck Chorris
MemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 2:46 PMWell, nihilism is the most feasible philosophy - IMO... hehe
Nature does not know whats right or wrong - things happen value-free.
Only mankind relies on the madness to give thinks "weight".
If tomorrow an asteroid crashes earth and everything is dead - who cares when nobody is left to care and "weight"?
This happens every day somewhere in the universe...
Only if someone is left to care there can be thought about a tragedy happening, as this last person living is also mired in some illusions like the rest of mankind...
Why is mankind "precious"?
We destroy. No matter how "good and holy" our resolution may be - all we do leads fast or slow to destruction, thats our nature. Not able to plan longer then a few years, lost in narcism, fear, emotional confusions...
If another species would act like mankind does - we would fight them with all we have, wouldn't we? Is just at all a big eyewash what we do day by day to avert truth from our minds... as we can not bear it.
Yes, maybe thats dark.
But life is not a pony-ranch, though disney tells us so...
Engineering
MemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 2:55 PMSeems like expectations killed the film for a lot of people. They expected something that can't be achieved. Therefore they end up saying a very good film is shit. If this film had nothing to do with Alien and Scott a lot of the people that hate it would think it was classic or at least a good film. Not saying everyone that hates it but definitely some.
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Legendary Xenomorph
MemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 3:00 PMFor a sequel
Talk about the story of the Yutani Industries
Returning to LV:223
Collecting all the Vases/jars from all the ships
A giant Space Station on a different planet
Creating new life from vases on living things/dead corpses
Slow suspense, Horror and a bit of Action
No CGI except for space atmosphere
6-12 interesting characters with alot of screen time
That's what I expect for a sequel
Ruhaniya
Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 3:00 PMI always thought that the space jockey in Alien was really huge but also bonded to his chair and I mean permanently cause that;s what a biomechanical alien world is. It;s really Giger's universe and I kind a miss the spookey creep dead but living aspect of design in the Derelict. The thing was skeletal but cold blooded and alive. It's the kind a place that if you walk into it you do not come out cause even the walls can get ya with vine-like extensions and bond you into it's bowels.
Ruhaniya
Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 3:24 PM I agree the next sequel they should go back to LV-223 only briefly though as they try to follow Shaw and David. Who knows maybe they'll find some interesting stuff on LV-349 on the way out to the Home world. We should stop for space coffee taco's N' hoots at the last space station/mining asteriods N"Gases N' Iceriods collectionS. I like to see lots of ships and space mining factories in a grander scale than the Nostromo and Rigs parked at PIGGY's kind a deal Both Human and alien technological world's in 3D but better than Avatar.
Nuck Chorris
MemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 3:38 PMI belive in BANALITY. The things are not so mysterious and "important" as we think they should be.
Anyway, have a nice time, dude!
David 1
MemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 3:55 PM1 - Beautiful images; i.e. aesthetics please.
2 - NO LINDELOF!!!!!
3 - NO DUMBED DOWN, POINTLESS BEHAVIOR
4 - LOTS OF GORE, BLOOD, VISCERAE, TRANSFORMATIONS and whatnot
5 - NO LINDELOF!!!!!!!!!
6 - INTELIGENT SCRIPT
7 - NO LINDELOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]
Cryo
MemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 10:43 PMThis is why I expect:
Just get it done before Ridley leaves this Earth and before the world collapses economically, socially, atmospherically, whatever..........
I don't expect answers to everything, what is the fun with that..........just to bash other's ideas because they didn't meet your expectations or they didn't outsmarted us.
however my own personal faves would be:
1.- David and Shaw should get back on screen.
2.- See what happens to the LV223 deacon alien............and end the debate of the Xeno being an accident, bioweapon or a pure alien race.
3.-Get a glimpse of the real engineer world............or is it PARADISE.
4.- If there is a PARADISE..... then there would also be a HELL..... or some sort of CHAOTIC planet......xeno's homeworld maybe.
5.- More creatures, mutations, weird stuff...........
colonial soldier
MemberOvomorphJun-18-2012 12:21 AM-Scrap those Engineers looking liking us/or the Space Jockey crap. Come on with some idea that those Aliens imitated the real Space Jockeys. Seriously, I was disappointed that the Space Jockey from Alien was something that resembled that idiot sacrificing himself in the beginning.
-Bring back the colonial marines or some for of group (not like the dumb mercenaries in Alien:Resurrection) of bad assess that fight these creatures. Like someone said; have better ALIENS (I hate that word xenomorph) that are more scarier than the one we came to know.
-Better cast and to be honest, some more B-list movie stars to round the cast
-want it to be scary looking and more disgusting scenes.
Ancient Alien
MemberOvomorphJun-18-2012 1:21 AMHere's what i'd like to see in the sequel : Old school special effects. Let's see if someone will make a movie without a CGI alien for once. Maybe they'd save some coin too. Remember Alien? It was a dude in a suit. That's scary. (And of course bring back the Deacon.)
Custodian
MemberOvomorphJun-18-2012 3:28 AM1) there was a SECOND ORBITING SPACE CRUISER observing the Prometheus Event on LV-223.
2) H.R. Giger is given ONE LAST CHANCE to art-direct an ADULT alien/engineer film.
3) long live the human disease of BELIEVING THE IMPLAUSIBLE.
:)
Free Planet
2013 sci-fi horror novels 'Custodian' and 'Tandem' available from Amazon, B&N, iTunes etc...
Engineering
MemberOvomorphJun-18-2012 8:19 AM@Colonial Soldier...Why don't you just go see the next James Cameron flick?
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db73
MemberOvomorphJun-18-2012 9:32 AMI don't expect anything! Prometheus lowered the bar all the way to the floor, which I guess is one plus of a possible sequel. But I was so disappointed with this film I couldn't really care less if they made a sequel or not anymore.
Ghost Solitare
MemberOvomorphJun-18-2012 6:48 PMCan we say what I'd like rather than what I expect? Hmmmm, to make the sequel absolutely mind numbing eh. Fill in the background of humanity with the data from the Weyland Corp site. Let me know a little about the society those people live in. That way I'm not flabbergasted by their apparent lack of wonder at the things they are finding. If there are literally dozens of colonies with populations in the millions than let me know it so that I don't get the idea this was mankinds first venture out into the vast black unknown. Let me see what a typical day is for someone that lives in the near 22nd century, then let me contrast it with what Shaw encounters at the end of her journey. You can use flashbacks to fill in her history, flesh out her character, bring her to life. While the engineers are interesting, lack of nipples yet they still have a navel. The scientist in me notices details like that.
As Weyland manipulated the entire human race in order to propel us into a position where he could request what for him was the most pertinent gift imaginable, let me glimpse him through the eyes of his creation David. It would perhaps give me some much needed answers as to how one man, obviously inherited so much more of the potential primordeal genetic precursors than his contemporaries. Just look at the Weyland website, the man single handedly saved the ozone layer, and revived the space program, and economy of a PLANET.
If you want to propose that our past was influenced by repeated visits by the engineers, give me just one little smidgeon of the ability of this material to pass through thousands of generations, and perhaps result in offspring that have that optimal mix of evolution that enabled them to connect to the engineer race in a way that didn't involve physical manifestations. Those ancient cultures all has mystics, shaman, or other individuals that could divine things from sources that defied explanation. They might have had the ultimate racial memory. Who's to say they didn't remember bits of the experiences of that first engineer that began the entire process.
Mostly I want something BIGGER than the engineers. I want to believe at the heart of all these questions, and theories is something truely ALIEN.
shardy
MemberOvomorphJun-18-2012 7:06 PMthe only thing i really want / need / expect...
is for Ridley Scott to chill out on the rushed way of telling a story
like he has been doing (sadly) for the past few years. i want a bit
more pensiveness in this tentative sequel, some mystery
let me enjoy the moment,
rather than rushing us all thru to the next scene and so on...
and do NOT overly score this new film,
PROMETHEUS had way too much score when there should
have been only dialog / atmosphere to drive the scene home
a longer cut next time...!!! don't give us all 1:59 minutes of
ADHD storytelling just to fit into some previous movie mold
i get that most folks are putting much of the blame from their
dissatisfaction of PROMETHEUS on Lindelof, (which i feel
is more than understandable) but i feel that it was / is SCOTT'S
sole responsibility to deliver a great film
but, it is what it is...and i am hoping against hope that this
next PROMETHEUS universe film will deliver on what this
film promised...
one last detail; PLEASE have Giger design ALL of the Engineer
and alien elements, it makes no sense to have someone else try
and replicate what only Giger can do best...
shambs
MemberOvomorphJun-18-2012 7:18 PMPersonally I want to:
1) A second expedition to LV-223 (maybe and expedition of Yutani) to see what the crew of the Prometheus were found and where David and Shaw. This second expedition would be composed of colonial marines and then they fight with Deacon and his descendants.
2) On the other hand we will see Shaw and David coming to the planet of Engineers for answers (perhaps some details of the aspects of biology, culture and society of the Engineers). There they discover that the Engineers were created by another alien race even more powerful than them. So maybe there was a war 2000 years ago, a sort of revelion of the hosts of angels / demigods leaving the race of Engineers almost extinct.
3) But the most important of all: NO MORE LINDELOF!!! because I think we need some answers and this guy clearly does not give them to us.
artyoh
MemberOvomorphJun-18-2012 7:28 PM@ Cryo
"Paradise" will be anything [i]but[/i].......you can take that to the bank.
Can Emed
MemberOvomorphJun-19-2012 11:51 AMNow that's something ........
Yes.... pleeeeease bring back H.R. (Hans Ruedi) Giger on the filmsets...
Make his wildest dreams comes true once again...
Please make us scared once more with the Giger's craziest designs...
Please make possible Prometheus with the HR Giger's advices and his wildest designs..
He make the Alien (1979) movie into scarriest movie in the hollywood history with his Airbrush on the sets..
He can make again one more time, not only make "banal thanks" for Giger in the end-title screen... Make the second Prometheus with him and wrote your names in the history again ;))
CrazyDave55811
MemberOvomorphJun-19-2012 12:22 PMThey need to [url=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wcaXTq86QXA/T8toDoHkuzI/AAAAAAAAEJo/ZUmDtYCdTgk/s1600/SpaceJockeySketch_Wip02.jpg]bring this Space Jockey back[/url]. Maybe they could be the same species (and even share the same human DNA), but have them be of a higher class or something?
Nuck Chorris
MemberOvomorphJun-19-2012 12:55 PM...maybe the real "creators" really have probosces, and the "engineers" only had CARNEVAL and dressed in carneval-probosces-suites?
I would love the creators to look like THIS.. perfect
[img]http://www.moviemonsters.gr/userfiles/image/vs/Space%20Jokey-Alien.jpg[/img]
Bluesfool
MemberOvomorphJun-19-2012 3:53 PMI WANT TO SEE MORE HALF NAKED NOOMI RAPACE!!!!!!!
who agrees?
Nuck Chorris
MemberOvomorphJun-19-2012 4:51 PMWhe? An naked ALIEN is NOT enough for you? haha.
No, Ms. Vickers is surely more of a beauty ideal - but rapace is indeed much more interesting (for kitchen work for example..)..
Just a little joke, ladies!
Ahhh... ARRHTTHh.... this chestburster seems to be a FEMINISSTTTttttt...........ARg.....
amon ra
MemberOvomorphJun-19-2012 6:01 PMMala'kak (sj/engineer) vs Annunaki...battle of the human-like humanoids.
And put Dwayne 'the rock's Johnson, just for the hell of it, since he's big and bald, and would've be perfect to play as a Annunaki.
Bluesfool
MemberOvomorphJun-20-2012 2:46 PMPrometheus 2: BROMETHEUS
[img]http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Bro+hug.+bros+for+life_087314_3812062.jpg[/img]
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