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Create in order to destroy

Bluesfool

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Hey guys, I have a simple question. When David said, "sometimes in order to create one must first destroy" did he mean that they were going to wipe out people or at least use them to create a NEW race of being most likely using the black goo to mutate their DNA as seen at the beginning of the film by the sacraficial engineer? thanks -blues
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yes.... I mean, dude, they travelled what? 45 light years to get there? I figure that since they're already there they really could have hopped a few planets like we hop bars in a new town. If they were pointing to that system (regardless of which exact star they were pointing at) it would be worth checking them all out (as you said) because maybe they'd find something more interesting somewhere else. Personally, I think they may have done that.....if everyone didn't start getting F**ked up lol....
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In natural history whenever a mass extinction event has occurred the surviving life has to adapt to a radically changed ecosystem and food chain, evolving new skills and new features to survive, and in some cases dominate. Without mass extinctions live would become "complacent", stuck in a rut, and the evolution of life slows down -- hence, to create one must first destroy.

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Perhaps a survival of the fittest...like a king of the hill has to take place...this produces a unique specimen suited for not only survival but advancement of the speices
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I can interpret it in 2 ways: 1) In the beginning we see from an engineer who destroys himself to create life. 2) Engineers want to exterminate life on Earth to start a new project for the Genesis.
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@Snorkelbottom...lol I know. I have a minor in earth science from the top university in canada. I was referring to the film. hmmm......I think its probably them taking us out (using us) to create something else via the black goo. but why the hell would they want to make a bunch a zombies like farfield lol? answer that
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A better question is, why didn't Shaw, sorry, supergenius Dr. Shaw, ASK him WTF he meant? Kind of important to know rather than guess if you're going to ask a man to kamikaze himself don't you think? I mean you'd want someone to have checked this sh1t out before going all chicken little and asking you to die by crashing into a giant UFO, right?
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@ bluesfool, I already have... [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/7023]HERE[/url]

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awww crap youre gonna make me read all that? well im hooked now lol..... -_-
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@Snorkelbottom... if that was their intention, why was it not carried out by the next two ships to visit? Two of the visits are more recent than the incident on LV-223. The Hawaiian one about 600 years later. Again, nobody is mentioning the possibility, that the 'destruction' takes place in the temple or the ships. Why, if these Space Jockeys seem to have no problem breathing in 3% Carbon Monoxide, (just jog over from a crashed ship, pull open some doors, and in you pop... when a human would be passed out in seconds, and dead in minutes) why do they have atmosphere processors inside that make it perfect for humans to survive... unless, they have been bringing humans? Does this occur to Shaw? Doesn't appear to , cos then she would have to wonder, where are all these humans? Anything remotely human looking on LV 223 that they could have been altered to resemble? She is not that curious, she's jumping to conclusions, which is not very scientific. Shaw assumes, that the 'destruction' is going to be something like that all action finale in the Bible... Armageddon. David knows her mind well enough to know how to mislead her with cryptic statements. ("Why would he want to?" is a good question.) Anyhow, she's now imagining the end of the human race. And yet, she's part of the team that DATED the cave drawings, and she dated the headless Space jockey as being dead centuries before two of the last visits. Which would seem to contradict the idea of a master plan to wipe us all out 2000 years ago. So it seems the believer in Shaw takes priority over the rational scientist training. She should have spotted that curious fact, and asked David what EXACTLY he was referring to. She caused 3 people to die in a crash, because she didn't check her facts. Not to mention she probably caused 2 to die in med lab, eaten by 'cuddles' her newborn squid, because she didn't put a 'do not enter' sign on the door. Basically, I wouldn't like to go camping with that woman.
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@ Hadleys Hope - That is a problem with the film... Allegedly we were targeted for "harvesting" (see [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/7023]HERE[/url]) 2000 years ago and the guys over on LV-223 were responsible for carrying out that order, but didn't because something got loose and killed all but one of them. Yet we have two more visitations after the 2000 year ago mark, the only assumption that can be made is that those responsible for sending in the "harvesters" aren't the ones responsible for the invitation. This then brings us to the subject of the invitation... Why point to LV-223 if it was just a weapons base filled with weapons to wipe us out, and why point to LV-223 if they intended to "harvest" us before we could even get there. From that I would assume they originally intended to peacefully, kindly request our assistance (see the thread I linked to earlier) but something happened pre-2000 years ago that changed their opinion of us and their other children, and we were labelled as just excess waste. And presumably some Engineers didn't receive the memo (invitations after the 2000 year ago mark) that the plan had changed - possibly they were asleep in stasis, or out of radio range.

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I never thought about the invitation before. Isnt that the motive to go there? its really important and yeah....its a rock? The only thing I can think of is the fact that they left those markings there as a fail safe so that later visiting races of people (Weylands crew) would wake the engineers up because they failed to put a timer on their sleep chambers lol? *cofffffeeeee*
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Why assume that Shaw and Holloway were right about it being an invitation? Why assume it points to LV 223 at all? If you look at the Scottish drawing, the figure is pointing at the central star. That's Zeta 1... it's about 39 light years away. They travelled 35 light years. How does Holloway decide where to go. He picks which star is most like our sun... i.e. the BEST case. When you search for something important, you don't just pick the best, you check anything that matches 'adequate' as well... unless for some reason you assume it must be 'the best' like, oh, I dunno, if you think you're going to heaven , and heaven is not going to be orbiting some crappy sun that can support life, but is less glorious. If you follow his argument, everything after matching up the six dots is flawed logic. If this is their neighborhood, they could have outposts in each of those systems, and if he'd rolled a dice, to pick a star, he probably would have found one, and assumed he'd picked the home world. But he'd be wrong wouldn't he? What he should have done is to check EVERY viable planet or moon for EACH of those solar systems. But as we see, Holloway is reckless and impatient. Not the type of guy you want leading you through a dark wood.
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whose to say they hadn't, remember the mention of the USCSS Heliades on weylandidustries.com's corporate timeline

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Yeah that was in January 17, 2034. Thats a possible way to put new people into the sequel I guess.
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I don't see any colony remotely near that bit of space.

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