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Ripley McPreviouscharacter
MemberOvomorphJul-07-2012 12:43 AMWith all the talk about what exactly the Deacon is supposed to be floating around, I've been looking at how it could possibly fit into the established xenomorph life cycle. Lindelof made a statement in an interview that makes it seem as if the mature Deacon will be an egg layer... but that raises a whole new batch of questions because, wth, that Trilobite is so random and haphazard, is that really how alien eggs come from? I don't freakin' think so. Although I guess it explains why space jockeys visited Earth in the past... to breed Deacons.
And recently I've been wondering, what happens if a Trilobite impregnates a human? Do you get an alien drone? A deacon? A human-deacon? Something else altogether... maybe a babyhead even?
And thinking about how exactly the mixing of dna works and what combination creates what, it's brought me back to Resurrection, which raised a lot of interesting ideas that, now, seem to leave more open questions than it did back when the life cycle was much more simple.
In no particular order, here are a couple of things I'd like to get answers about:
1. Since the genetic drones are already human-alien hybrids, do genetic bursters still hybridize with the host? If they do, are they "genetic dog aliens" or just "dog aliens?" Does their inherent human dna take the place of host hybridization or simply augment it?
2. Do the adults, the drones, of human-alien hybrids have the ability to molt into praetorians and then queens if the old queen dies? Or is the genetic queen completely unique, and her death means the death or the species? OR do the genetic drones have the ability to egg morph like we saw Kane's Son do? IF the drones can molt, do they end up as the same type of genetic queen that spawned them? Or do they lack the ability to grow a womb and birth a newborn? If they can egg morph, are they genetic eggs or normal xenomorph eggs from the other films?
3. Remember the scene with Ripley 7? She had an incision scar across her... um... chest, I guess. What happened to that cloneburster? Did it die? Was it a failed clone like Ripley 7? Or did it live, but not quite live up to expectations? How? If the mix of human and alien is different from Ripley 8 and her cloneburster, does that mean it only has the womb and doesn't lay eggs? Or something else?
4. With Ripley 8 on Earth... with no other xenomorphs... does her alien dna make her mutate into a form that's capable of laying eggs, as would happen to any other alien in a situation where no queen is present? Is she not THAT much alien? Can she still give birth to genetic facehuggers or something? Or an opposite newborn?
It's a shame weaver didn't want to do a sequel set on Earth because these alien-human hybrids are really bizarre and I'd love to see them explored more... and not just have some old school aliens fight terminators or whatever.
5. I heard the writer of Resurrection actually wrote a treatment or something for a Resurrection sequel. Does anyone know anything about this? Is it floating around the internet somewhere?
Okay, okay, I'm done. :3
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Svanya
AdminPraetorianJul-07-2012 12:49 AM#3: If I remember correctly all the other Ripley clones were failures, being horribly mutated abominations. None ever resulted in the production of a fertile Queen chestburster.

Ripley McPreviouscharacter
MemberOvomorphJul-07-2012 1:03 AMAll of them except 7 & 8 died before maturing, or were so malformed they were put down. 1-6 are all dead by the events of the movie, 7 & 8 are still alive, 7 against her will, 8 because they wanted Sigourney Weaver to be in the movie.
Ripley 7, when 8 found her, was still alive, and had an incision where the burster would have been removed.
So, we have some information (she's still alive, has a scar from collecting the burster) that indicates she was somewhat viable and her burster was considered valuable enough for removal. But, on the other hand, there is information (we never see two queens, the mere fact that Ripley 8 exists) that suggests she is a miserable failure.
So why is she still alive, then?
What if, as you seem to suggest, there WAS no burster in 7. Maybe they were hoping one would develop?

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJul-07-2012 9:36 AMMy suspicion is that the Queen we saw in Alien Rez was actually the Queen from Ripley 7 - check out an early version of [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/959]Alien V[/url]

Ripley McPreviouscharacter
MemberOvomorphJul-07-2012 11:29 PM...well then what did they do with 8's burster?

Svanya
AdminPraetorianJul-07-2012 11:32 PM@Ripley McPreviouscharacter, I never said there wasn't a burster in #7, I just understood it was never viable when they removed it. I assume they studied it and added it to the jar collection before cloning Ripley 8, who's chestburster became the Queen we see in the movie. I am pretty sure it's her chestburster because Dr. Gediman says the cheesy line: "She is giving birth for you." meaning it was hers.

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJul-08-2012 5:42 AM@Ripley McPreviouscharacter,
Read the Alien V i linked too, it gives you a possibility
@ Svanya - wouldn't gediman say that anyway, Ripley 7 and Ripley 8 are clones of the same individual aren't they - Ripley
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