Lindelof's Assertion That Shaw Might Be Wrong

Well, it may be that all their assumptions were wrong. Almost everything they did was wrong. Also, Lindelof went wrong. LOST wrong. eheheh

I reckon its got something to do with a prophecy and the engineers trying to stop it. And yes LOST was lost - would like a new writer for the 2nd one :P ...I always thought - we simply do not know if the goo is bad or good and what they are doing is bad or good the film is that ambiguous !

I'm not sure there is too much room for doubt, in what we actually saw, regarding Shaw's interpretation nor that her interpretation was correct?.. As I recall, Bob woke up, coughed, stared blankly as the humans bickered amongst themselves, copped an earful of David's needy prattle, paused - and then went all-out H.A.M... Unless David mentioned it during his little pitch, it doesn't seem Bob would have had an opportunity to come to much of an awareness of their meddling or anything else that had happened, beyond what took place in that room? It looks to me that he was in an unhappy place from the second he opened his eyes and saw them there - with the bickering and the prattle and the David's Bambi eyes only reminding him why it had all been agreed, [in that Q2 Long-range Strategy Meeting they had], that Humans were to be harshly murderalised. If Shaw's understanding is incomplete, then I'd find it a little hard to see how it could be for any reason that is actually in the film and, with that, how Shaw could possibly assume anything other than what she did - that guy flew right off his handle almost immediately and didn't seem even close to getting it together - I didn't get a sense of, "Really, he has positive intentions. If only he wasn't so misunderstood", as a result...

"...Humans were to be harshly murderalised..." In addition Bob must have highly motivated in his rage because he had no idea of how many human...or their weapons ..he was up against.. Bob didn't care about obstacles... he just needed to explode..

Bob was not a morning person, that's all... I tend to throw people around after my nap that lasted 2000 years... Bambi eyes... I like eyes like that... prattle... yes I think they prattle a tad too much... and in front of their God creator... they should have been on their hands and knees.... silly arrogant humans...

@Indy John Hm. Very good point, as I see it. I can't even think of it as, "Rage", anymore? This is reading, to me, more as reaction of pure, literal and almost insane levels of, "Hate"? I got the sense that if he had needed to use his teeth to tear at their flesh and break their bones with his bare hands, he would have done...

Whatever he intended, "The trick is not minding that it hurts."

I would be pissed if I woke up from a 2,000 year nap and had some little twat pestering me about immortality as soon as I wake up without even offering me a coffee first!

yeah Bob gets grumpy without his breakfast. ahah.

I think anyone would be slightly peeved in that situation to be honest ;-P

"..I think anyone would be slightly peeved in that situation to be honest .." For the crew of the Prometheus..what would have been the best Bob reaction to the situation of waking up..to group of humans? Bob saying".. Well it is about time you got here!"

I reckon :-D

Or better yet, him saying "OK, first I need a shit, shower and shave cause I been holed up in the same position for 2,000 bloody years, someone make the coffee before I rip someone's head off!"

ahahah cool.

Remember how sick Shaw was when she woke up after only 2 years Hypersleep?? The engineer must have felt really crappy after 2000 years of it. Hypersleep seems to be a very crummy experience, all the Alien movies portray it as such. So, keeping this in mind, we have our engineer who is awoken before he is supposed to by David. He then staggers around, almost falls, sees a bunch humans who should not even be there screeching at him and hitting each other. I think he panicked, felt really ill from hypersleep, and went ape$hit on them.

I agree that Bob was probably feeling a little grumpy after his 2,000 year snooze. It was interesting though how he didn't go ape-sh*t on them right away. He seemed to be trying to make sense of who they were and what they were doing there. Then David went into his little speech about Weyland wanting to live longer and THEN Bob lost it. Maybe this was what went through the Engineer's mind: [i]"Hey, I'm awake."[/i] Then… [i]"Wait a minute - why are there humans here? Hmmmm, this isn't good."[/i] David opens his big mouth… [i]"Okay that's it!! It's bad enough that you've showed up here and are snooping around - after all we created you - but now you have the nerve to question the way you were made, demanding to live a longer lifespan!?!? This is not the way we indeed you to be, so you've blown it and now you're gonna get it!!!"[/i] And then he goes ape-sh*t on them.

In response to Space Screamer's OP, I think we need to determine what information we (the audience) are privy to that Shaw is not. Correct me if I'm wrong and my memory is way off, but what I come up with is that we know about the black stuff and Shaw does not. From my recollection, Shaw does not know about it, nor that anyone (or anything) came into direct contact with it. [i]Disclaimer: I'm still not sure about the black stuff entirely. Part of me thinks there are 2 materials. One that is inside the urn and surrounds the ampules (stuff that the worm and Fifield contact) and the material on the inside of the ampule (possibly what the Engineer drinks and definitely what David puts in Holloway's drink). So, the question is when the stuff comes out of the urns inside the temple, is that just the outer material or has the ampule broken down inside to mix the two materials and that's why the result of the worm and Fifield is more of a negative reaction compared to just the material in the ampule (seeding life, re-animating dead cells, ie, Shaw's infertile womb) being a more positive reaction? [/i] Regardless of my question about the black stuff, the point I'm trying to make is Shaw does not know: 1) the Engineer drank the black stuff at the beginning to seed life 2) how Holloway got infected (Holloway got a sense of how he was infected after a "look" he gets from David, but he never tells Shaw) 3) that Milburn died from the result of a worm mutating into the Hammerpede after coming into contact with the black stuff 4) that Fifield returned to the ship as a crazy "whatever" and killed off a bunch of people (Janek only tells her what he assumes the place is and doesn't tell her about his account with Fifield in the hangar) So, what is Shaw's assumption? It really is what Janek assumes... that the stuff in the urns are a weapon and they are at a weapons facility. With us (the audience) knowing about the black stuff and the variations of reactions when coming into contact with it (seeding life, mutating, extreme aggression/strength, re-animating dead cells, ie, Shaw's infertile womb), what other conclusions can we make?

Yeah, I really hope the engineer's reaction was just a misunderstanding. It would be really boring if they make all the engineers into a bunch of mad scientists that like to play god by creating life and then destroying it.

Nah nah nah, this is all crap, and why is he called BOB? Anyway, WE HAVE NO IDEA why Bob did what he did upon exit from his cryo-unit, confronted with an android beggin eternal-life favours. It just wasn't mentioned - i.e. Prometheus was INTENTIONALLY misdirecting, or at worst NEGLECTFUL in its role to further character by so-called back story and narrative detail. Obfuscation is the Corporate War way, so fog off.

PS: does anyone have a capture of this head-patting scene?