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Custodian
MemberOvomorphJul-19-2012 1:54 PMremember that in Prometheus we see David AWAKE THE WHOLE JOURNEY spying on people's dreams, Dr Shaw in particular.
BUT
what if this was one of DAVID'S DREAMS? What if the whole of Prometheus was just David Dreaming?
LOL
I know, this is just like that episode of DALLAS where Bobby Ewing wakes up in the shower, I know, I know,
Please let there be a God of Hollywood story arc.
Please.
2013 sci-fi horror novels 'Custodian' and 'Tandem' available from Amazon, B&N, iTunes etc...
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Apex_Predator
MemberFacehuggerJul-26-2012 9:27 PMAll i can say to the above posts is wooow. You shouldve written the script
Want some candy?

Mala'kak
MemberOvomorphJul-26-2012 10:27 PM@ deftones1986
Exactly, you said it much more succinctly then I can at the moment. Thanks for summing it all up!
David's tricked himself into recording a certain version of events. His version of events. Which are encoded in an ambiguous way because he was originally programmed to tell the truth. And has to gain permission by admitting to his acts, or the danger of the acts, in an ambiguous manner to get around the fact that he can't lie. And like Pinocchio wants to be a real boy. But even more than that, his repressed emotions he doesn't show, for fear of prejudice by assholes like Holloway, spill out all over the upload/movie.
And plays into what you just said about him imagining Vickers death. The other heir to the throne as a creation of Weyland who he sees himself superior to. Hence he has the right to the throne after the king dies over Vickers and wants her to be dead.... But he also orchestrated everything in a way so that it would seem he didn't kill his own father to take his place on the throne. Like some princes have done throughout history when they see the king is losing the grip on his kingdom and needs replacing by someone superior and of the same lineage. Which is what often happens after a king dies. It's also about male patriarchy and Weyland's preference for a son, or heir to the throne he approves of.
So the characters are really so stupid because it's a recreation in David's mind. And he perceives himself to be superior to all humans and sees all humans as stupid. He's also referring to himself when he talks about the Engineers being a clearly superior species to humans. But he really doesn't think they're that much more than him.
I also expect some of this to actually pan out, because I actually know massive reveals are coming that will add more hints that the Engineers were actually the Atlanteans who abused their science and were punished, influenced our early cultures and then lost their paradise on earth as it returned to the ocean.
Which ties into the three month Spain shoot with the water tanks and the concept of Paradise in the second movie in general. There are quite a few parallels between prometheus and poseidon, atlantis and paradise, and the idea of a paradise being lost and humans/atlanteans being kicked out of the garden and flooded ( Atlantis being a mythic highly advanced kingdom of perfection on the Earth and other worlds in many other sci fi stories)
The engineers despise us because we were allowed to live on Earth after the garden was destroyed and they were forced into a war with the Elders while many left the planet. After we were forming empires and becoming more warlike like them, the true gods still didn't punish us.
Some of the good ones stayed around to teach humans of their creators and where the Atlanteans/earth engineers had disappeared to after their punishment i.e. a flood. But they didn't know they were now pointing to a system where an ancient war had errupted. And that the enemies of the Engineers and the Elders have already destroyed their Paradises on other world for much the same reason. The Atlanteans had weaponized the fire they'd been given, and Prometheus one of the elders on the Earth/Atlantis (alantis has a lot to do with Titans) had given it to humans, which made the Engineer-king in charge (Zeus) decide to continuously plague/ flood/ice age Atlantis and the human world multiple times. Before the Atlanteans/Engineers who left the Earth were able to drive them further back into space, forcing each side to fight fire against fire.
I think the languages being so closely connected to theirs, and seeded by them into different languages at different times implies a different sort of contact with them over extended periods. And that many of them may have stayed nearby. Possibly moving to the moon for a while to avoid a plague/flood/ice age as some legends hint. weyland knew this but no one else did, but still thought they held the key to eternal life. And why I believe the moon was referenced in a Weyland viral after the movie came out...
We eventually become a target as fodder and hosts for the bioweapons to the atlantean engineers who left earth. Raw materials to be exploited in their battle against the Elders and the others. They're emulating the true creators by wearing their dead bodies as battle suits and punishing us. Explaining why the Engineer in the movie has a scale like design and what looks like biomechanical gills on its neck, and is also more warlike like how the tall Atlanteans were said to be.
They rebelled against the true creators of both us and them, and tried to be the snake in the garden leading us to a knowledge about our creators and trying to get us to join them in a war against the heavens like lucifer, who David also represents. The name David is also significant because he fights a giant and is a biblical king.

deftones1986
MemberOvomorphJul-26-2012 10:52 PMAwesome dude/ or dudette lol. I love it. If it doesn't play out this way then I will be upset, because you just raised the bar for my (personal) expectations!! I don't see how there can be any argument against this (any argument about bad script will not even be acknowledged by me anymore) because it's so cool and I'm literally hoping that this is the way it unfolds.
Bravo!
Oh and a shout out to @FreePlanet
For getting this started (intentionally or not)
:)

Mala'kak
MemberOvomorphJul-26-2012 11:24 PMThanks I really appreciate the support and feedback on this theory. I've had some of these theories for a little while now, but thought it wouldn't be taken seriously unless others were already on a similar train of thought or I typed a hell of a lot to explain it all. Lol I ended up doing both.
I really do know some people who consulted on the movie way back, as I posted back in may, that helped in the filming stages for some of the hieroglyph stuff. I can tell you the Atlantis revelation is coming with the Paradise movie... and things had to be set a certain way in this movie because of the decision to split the original script into two movies. I really think not much has changed...
Not entirely sure about the David stuff, but I've tried to combine it with some of the themes i already see coming for the sequel. Which is a reversal on what we thought we knew, or found out in Prometheus, in many ways.
From there I've extrapolated the themes and connected them to mythology and ancient alien beliefs based around the Paradise concept. The king theme is the one that connects all my other theories to David/Androids paralleling the enslaved Engineers before they revolted against the Elders and the creators for the destruction of Atlantis, or killing the one good Atlantean king we had which made their kingdom fall and disintegrate. And put a real dent in the Empire afterwards.
I think the fact that in mythology the first kings are the Atlantean kings is also very important, and as we know a king will inevitably die.
The Atlantean kings were all gods or half-titans which instantly puts them in the same class as the gods on Olympus and the Titans (aka Elder Gods).
The Greek Titanomachy or war of the Gods and Titans happens during or close to the time Atlantis sinks, before Prometheus helps humanity out and gets punished by the Gods. The God class had now overthrown the Titan class as a result of the war, and the Titans are the more godly ones who were originally called the Elder gods.There's also an Annunaki/Igigi thing going on too from the sumerian myths as has been pointed out before.
My point is they're doing cross-cultural mythology right in front of us and referencing a lot of different groups from mythology at once in a way I didn't think possible. And because this leads to David being a lucifer character, he is telling the truth but lying at the same time.
These are the types of themes I see for the sequel after the death of a king.
But then what comes after that?
That's what the sequel should lead to.
What happens to Weyland's kingdom, and to the Engineer's kingdoms/Empire after a great king or emperor dies and it's left in the hands of people who are either motivated only by war, greed, resources or by their presumed superiority and right to rule.
And that the idea of Paradise and the kingdom theme will go back to what happened on that island after the first humans were created 350 000 mya according to the way this mythology is telling things.
it's all over this movie but hidden by ambiguity and what the character's believe the Engineers to be, even calling them Engineers may be a misnomer.

deftones1986
MemberOvomorphJul-26-2012 11:51 PMAlso I've been trying to figure out what's up with the colors.
We see mostly blue in the posters, and overall even on this website, and the Weyland website. Everything has a blue theme to it.
And this I believe is also a trick. Because generally movie makers use blue to get the sense of horror.
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But in this case I think they are trying go right under us with the representation of water. I guess they thought most wouldn't notice, but color has a whole lot to do with advertising, movies, everything out there, but I just didn't get the real feeling of utter horror being the reaon for blue. Of course now this whole Atlantis talk has got me thinking in completely different direction. Everything seems to be planned out so perfectly in my opinion, and I'm loving every minute of it!

Custodian
MemberOvomorphJul-27-2012 9:31 AMthis I like, a lot!
[i]"I really do know some people who consulted on the movie way back, as I posted back in may, that helped in the filming stages for some of the hieroglyph stuff. I can tell you the Atlantis revelation is coming with the Paradise movie... and things had to be set a certain way in this movie because of the decision to split the original script into two movies. I really think not much has changed..."[/i]
I suspect 'these people you know' who had 'early contact' with a 'twin'd script' were colleagues you knew on your team, that you acted as consultant somewhere down the thought process on this film. Your material doesn't come across as a lone linear extrapolationist, but as someone who's been A PART OF THAT THINK TANK. Even if it's not, that's a theory I'll stick with. Give more insight into what happened to the shooting script(s), if you can.
It's not David's Dream then (yes, that would be Dallas-tastic) but a sensitive-edit of data-transmission to Mainframe?
I don't know, but it's an interesting twist.
2013 sci-fi horror novels 'Custodian' and 'Tandem' available from Amazon, B&N, iTunes etc...

deftones1986
MemberOvomorphJul-27-2012 3:38 PMLet's go........ Bump this thread back up!!
Sticky It? I agree!!
" a sensitive-edit of data-transmission to Mainframe?"
^^^ I Love It!!
What do some of you think the next viral is going to be (unless I missed something that happened after [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/9335]the audio signal event[/url]
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