Jesus was an Engineer

I have such good memories of MACROSS. That's cool you are talking about it. I used to watch it on french TV when I was a kid. I still remember the first time I saw a Zentradi going out of his battlepod. I think what scared and disturbed me the most was that they just look like humans but taller while I was expecting they will be sort of monster from outer space. Totally of topic but who cares :)

[b]Eh, true...but yet a really cool and ongoing series.[/b] [b][/b] [b]And they delivered the concept of biotechnology, seeding of life, galactic cultures, bio-engineering and cultural shocks as well as politics, racism and a real good reasoning as how to portray a galactic force unchanging for aeons (the Zentraedi technology was given by automated factories spread throughout the galaxy...they could not ven fix their ships when damaged, and thus they only live to hunt Supervision Army and were even primed to avoid cultural development (thus keeping unchanging and almost childlike)[/b] [b][/b] [b]Perfect warriors created by a long dead civilization, spread among the stars by the millions, always fighting, always following their first programing, until something really changed one of their fleets...[/b] [b][/b] [b]The concept is marvellous and well handled, and proof is the series still alive and kicking for 30 years.[/b] [b][/b] [b]And Prometheus could have somethig from that story...Engineers being bio engineered warriors left locked in an aeons long battle even after their masters were dead..unchanging because they were created to be warriors...[/b] [b][/b] [b]That could make things more interesting...[/b] [b][/b] [b](Robotech is a deformation of the concept, never really meant as something more than sell toys and please US audiences ... thus abandoned years ago whereas MACROSS is alive and soon a new instalment on its long series of sequels comes in ^^ )[/b]

I'm personally leaning towards the Space Jesus theory. I know Ridley said "it was too on the nose," but I think he just meant it was too much to come out and say explicitly in the movie (which is why it is very vaguely implied instead). Because Ridley ALSO went on to say something to the effect of, "those are our children misbehaving down there, let's send one of our own to see if they will get on the right track... and boom, we crucified him." It's the only thing that make sense, seeing as all the shit that broke loose on LV-223 and killed all the Engineers happened 2,000 years ago. The only thing that I'm still scratching my head over is this: if the Engineers were so upset at us for misbehaving (and being violent and killing one another, I assume?), then why are the Engineers such "violent fuckers" (according to Ridley)? It seems like they would PRAISE our violence and misbehaving... hmm..

@Voidhawk Yes thats kind of how i saw thing and i posted such many times on here. I think the Water Fall Scene was the start of Complex Life on Earth, via the Engineers seed mutating basic lifeforms like Bacteria. I think a fraction of Engineers was given the mission to set up a outpost on LV 223 for monitoring Earth new Life, or that they was to monitor the Earth from their ships or even from Earth. These Engineers was a servant/slave race and they got fed up of being subservient to the Elders and they used the FIRE (Stuff the Sacrificial Engineer had taken) to then create Mankind, so that these Engineers then had a Race who would serve them. Think about it, the Sacrificial Scene could be Millions and Millions or years ago, well mankind has been around for a lot lot less time than that. Maybe the original purpose was not to seed life to create Mankind, but Mankind was created without the intermission of the Elders from the Home World and thus the Engineers on LV 223 are PROMETHEUS and the STEALING OF THE FIRE was creating Mankind many Millions of years after the Sacrificial Scene. So i purpose that the Elders or who ever on the Homeworld... 1) Are not aware that Mankind was created. 2) Was but they are all but wiped out. 3) They know of our creation but after two failed attempts at two different Bio Weapons and their Arrogance that Mankind would never Evolve to the Level to Traverse the Stars they simply decided to abandon us and the attempts to wipe us out and leave us to our own course.

Humm, if the last is what might be happening, then in the Sequel the True Masters, Old Ones (Lovecraftian) or Elders are in for a surprise, when Shaw appears there with David, a human original creation that, And David and his kind might be the great trumph humans have! Whereas their technology evolved in the biotech way, humans being not that advanced yet created an artificial life sentient and very resourceful, able to even access their technology (David access and even pilots one of their ships) The creation of a culture hundreds of years old able to decipher and control the product of millions of years of technology...scary concept, and would put human tech as a wild card among the Elders... David (and the androids human tech created) can be something special and that would also work into the fighting scenario: Biotech vs Conventional tech Interesting...

I would assume that as with the Engineers reaction to Shaw, that the Elders would have the same level of intrigue at Shaw. I think they would go on to explain things to her, as lets face it if they find them and they want us dead as well then Shaw wont last long and they could then set off to Earth to destroy us and thus no Earth in Aliens or Alien. But while its nice to paint a pretty picture of friendly Engineers with Shaw, its gonna be a bit bland really. In comes David, i think that he would be the true antagonist and while the Engineers are getting on with Shaw i think David may either do something to upset them or indeed something to cause Chaos.... Maybe David has a sample of the Black Goo on him ;)