Future of the series - Prometheus' Sequel(s) - Ideas, Expectations & Desires
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Prenihility
MemberOvomorphSeptember 29, 2012Alright, ladies and gentlemen. This has been a long time coming, and i believe it is finally about time that this thread came into existence. It has come to my attention that threads; no matter what the topic, have their topics go in a different direction completely. This topic of discussion that forms in threads is very specific. Very diverse. But is nontheless one.
The reactions to Prometheus have been skewed. Whether or not you like, or dislike the film. Whether or not you were disappointed, or your feelings were the polar opposite; completely satisfied. People can't seem to help themselves, and start discussing improvements, what could have been. What should have been. And what could have generally improved Prometheus, and made it a superior film. I too was extremely disatisfied with Prometheus. But i'm still a fan! A fan of this world. This series. And i know that this is just the beginning.
So, in that respect, i will be starting this thread for Prometheus, as a whole, as a series. It's a bit difficult naming the series; but that name will emerge in time. So no matter. I'm sure you all understand what this thread applies to. Every subsequent sequel that is in correlation with Prometheus.
A thread where people can share their ideas. Expectations. Desires, and hopes. I strongly believe that we, as the fans. As the community that is passionate about this series, deserve to be heard by the producers, by even Ridley Scott himself. And everyone involved in production and development of the series.
I have seen countless threads travel down this different path. And change their topics to this aforementioned, creative discussion.
And i have heard nothing but great things. Excellent ideas from the community. From the members. Here's to all of you, and you're imagination!
Here, we can compile this wonderful creativity.
Let the discussion begin!
October 05, 2012
Well, if thats true then how was Holloway able to decifer that it was a tomb just be looking at the xeno carving? I mean its not like he mentions it to Shaw before they have sex. Idk, maybe Scott's Director's Cut will open the possibilities.
Plus, if xenos are really more complicated, then they might have their own Elders and culture. I think that "Paradise" is going to be partially in ruins from a war the engineers had with them, or another warrior-type abomination. Shaw is going to confront both cultures and want answers as to why the Engineers wanted to destroy us.
Like I said ealier, I think we were simply meant as lab rats to test their new weapon on so as to see if it was ready from xeno-soldiers. This results in the deacon. The ultramorph, the perfect combination of both engineer and xeno DNA. This is what the Engineers were foolish enough to think they could harness and now the xenos are going to (or did) punish them for.
This I believe is what Shaw and David and however is casted in for on the Engineer homeland.
October 06, 2012
The "What did he say"-scene was one of the dumbest of all times IMO.
Totally "overacting" by theron, like some highschool theater...
Nope, i did not like it at all.
October 06, 2012
Maybe, by the time they were still working that base it could be possible that we were considered rat labs, but I do not thinbk they would have seeded planets millions of years ago for just that...
So they changed their minds along the way, and this is what Shaw wants to know.
As for knowing what was in the ampules, they knew not...so I also think they were trully surprised.
It might be revealed in the sequel they really had some deeper knowledge of what they thought they would find, maybe texts from the original invitations found somewhere on Earth, and when she found out what they saw in the movie, she says they were so wrong...
Lets see what the sequel beings on that...
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October 06, 2012
To all
If I had ships with the technology they had and they have access to the virus that breaks down DNA and reforms and re combines to form another virus then I can manipulate DNA at an extremely complex level - would you agree ? Then why not simply create a being of Uber intelligence that start to solve my problems ? All my problems .
The only reason why they have this technology and doesn't use it for their own gain I can see is because their is a greater power preventing them from doing so .
Otherwise what is preventing them from developing themselves and reaching the singularity - the moment when all knowledge that can be obtained about this physical universe has been gathered and processed ?
I suspect here is a hierarchchy of beings here of beings controlling those below for the pleasure / purpose of those above .
Where did here this before ?
Oh yes in paradise that s what happened - first lucifer then man wanted to be like god which became more important than being what god made them to be .
So now no more favours - no more glory - just pain and suffering until you have fulfilled your purpose.
Welcome to paradise .......
October 07, 2012
Anyone smell an Engineer-Xenomorph War coming up? Not necessarily in Paradise but just in general?
October 08, 2012
@ Uneeque:
Okay, God only knows if you're lying or telling the truth, especially if you made these conclusions ON YOUR VERY FIRST VIEWING of the movie, because, stranger, I'm telling you it's CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
So, I'll respect what you believe and I don't have to believe what you contend.
October 10, 2012
I smell a human-engineer war coming. I think the Weyland Corporation has backup. Vickers even said that she believed in having a backup, speaking of separate module. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Others will arrive at LV223 in the next movie.
Trev
October 10, 2012
I would have to think that if the site on LV 426 was in fact a failed Biological Weapons development center as Captain Yancek implies that a beacon or signal from the ship would have eminated from the ship to alert all those from the Engineers species to stay away from the planet.
When the ship is powered up the signal would have been sent to the Engineers homeworld alerting them of the launch which means that the Engineers might have sent in another ship to investigate.
Once on LV 426 the crew of the Engineer ship, unaware of the new Deacon is slowly over taken one by one to become hosts for the Deacons new spawn while Dr. Shaw and David continue their search for the Engineers homeworld so that Dr. Shaw, like Weyland who is obessed with living forever, her obession with destruction can be answered.
Here is closing that I wrote for Prometheus after watching it several times within the last 24 hours.
Back on Earth
....shortly after Mr. Weylands death.
"Incoming message from the Prometheus"
The pale finger reached out and pressed the accept button on the command board illuminating the dimly lit module with a dim blue light.
The dim lighting created long shadows on the bulkheads of that module that dance ever so slightly with each new page of the message transmitted.
".....deceased."
"What about Mr. Weyland?" asked a cold resonance.
"Deceased."
Without hesitation the wirery figure moves to a second command board and presses a few buttons.
A sudtle hissing sound alerts it to the opening hatch to its left.
The shadow of the figure disappears into the room the hatch closing closing behind it.
In the center of the room is a stasis chamber, pearl colored with tubes and wires running from it into the primary command board mounted on the
bulkhead directly to its right. The command board chirps a sound every few seconds as a single yellowish light pulses in the same manner in rythm, perfect rythm with the chirping.
Without command the lighting in the room gradually intensifies.
The reflection of the stasis chamber reflects in the figures eye as it slowly opens up, crygogenic gases spill onto the decking.
Inside a cough is heard and finally a voice.
"How long have I been in stasis?" asks the voice
"Five years." replies the figure
"Have they they found a cure yet?"
"Not yet."
"Get me my robe."
"Yes sir right away."
"It will be some time before you get your memory back. But as instructed I have uploaded all of the information that you required before you were put into stasis."
"Thank you."
The man born again sits hours without end remembering who he was as reads page after page from the data banks.
Nearly exhausted the man climbs into bed and pulling the covers up tight as if warding off a bad dream.
"....and what about the Prometheus? Have they found the planet yet?"
"No sir. The Prometheus was lost with all hands....except for one.....Shaw EC 3920584080. Location...Unknown."
"What about the Bio-Syn....David?"
"It too is presumed...inactive. Location....Unknown."
"Thank you." the man replies turning the light off.
"Your welcome Mr. Weyland and...have a good journey."
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All of these worlds abound with freedom...and death.
October 11, 2012
Reading this thread, some really great ideas and imagination. I wouldn't mind the horror aspect being levelled up a little bit more. A few more jump out of your seat moments, not to say they'd be cheap shocks or anything. A bit like the bobbing head in jaws mwohahaha. I want the creatures up a level as well, the black goo mutating anything and everything. A few answer yes like what was suggested, why we humans should be killed off. etc etc etc etc etc etc
October 17, 2012
The film for me was gripping and compelling with some wonderful ideas spoilt by gaping plot holes and a string bag of a script.
Where is this franchise headed? Perhaps the best clue to its direction lies in the Greek myth itself. The immortal Prometheus (a Titan), who created men from clay and empowered mankind’s progress, is punished by Zeus (head honcho of the Olympian gods) to eternal torment, by being bound to a rock, his liver devoured by an eagle each day and regenerated each night (due to his immortality). After years of this repeating torment, the hero Heracles (Hercules) frees Prometheus by slaying the eagle.
The Engineers as a group (although we should also allow for sub groups, at least two: one interested in further developing the human race, another intent on its eradication) would essentially appear to represent Prometheus, as developer or engineer of human beings. The source of torment – the Eagle (sent by Zeus) – appears to be represented by the xenomorph Alien (seen here at the end as the Deacon, a form [some suggest the original form] of the monster in the Alien franchise).
In the myth Heracles (an upgraded man) finally liberates Prometheus from his torment – Heracles being half man/half god, himself a son of Zeus. Perhaps the film is headed in this direction that man will evolve to a point where he becomes godlike. Shaw seems a suitable representative of human kind due to her fundamental belief (which is perhaps what the Engineers are looking for in an evolved human). Perhaps humans can in some way relieve the Engineers of their apparent burden/torment, reconciling a combined species of Humans/Engineers (we are told we share identical DNA) with God. The Alien crucifixion motif is perhaps the key clue to this potential theme.
October 17, 2012
...I mention, in the previous post, that Shaw appears a suitable survivor to go on from [b]LV - 223[/b] as a representative of Earth in Paradise (apparently the home of the Engineers) by virtue of her fundamental belief.
Note that the third Book of Moses ([b]Leviticus[/b] chapter 22, verse 3 [LV - 223]) talks about an unclean soul being cut off from God’s presence... Shaw would appear to be the best candidate from the crew suitable to carry on, with the technological assistance of the android, David.
October 22, 2012
Could it not go something like: the Engineers have targeted Earth for annihilation as we have disappointed them in a big way, about 2,000 years ago in crucifying what Scott has referred to as an “emissary” (perhaps Jesus Christ?).
We also note that the day of the Deacon’s (or servant/messenger) ‘birth’ is Christmas Day, invoking the theme of anti-Christ. Elizabeth Shaw cannot conceive and yet she produces an alien being. [In the Bible the Virgin Mary’s cousin Elisabeth also conceived a son (John The Baptist) in her old age, despite being barren].
Where they are going with this I can’t quite tell...
October 26, 2012
This megathread seems like a great venture. I hope whoever writes Prometheus 2 will have read a lot of what's here and in the other posts on this website. Prometheus disappointed many fans who wanted it to be more like Alien, the kind of prequel they would have liked and like it was marketed to be. It isn't scary at all, and the xeno's essentially never appear in it. The only way Prometheus 2 will live up to people's expectations is if its makers pay attention to what the fans want.
Prenihility, keep up the good work!
October 26, 2012
@Visionary Alpha
Very well spoken.
Although i can't stress this enough; Prometheus should steer clear of being anything like Alien. Ridley Scott, and Fassbender also, have said that Alien was just a small part of this universe. Just a little preamble to the grander story that is just starting to open up.
Prometheus does not, and should not be another Alien.
Honestly, i think the Deacon's appearance at the end was too much, even. Too much to cater to the Alien fans.
We didn't need Xenomorph's at all.
But anyhow, thanks a lot for the positive feedback and support. And remember, i'm just the OP :D
Everyone needs to speak their mind, and contribute. That's what it's all about.
Keep it coming, folks!
November 14, 2012
I dunno about paradise/prometheus 2 but i reckon it'll run to a trilogy
one way to round up could be: after shaw/david/any new characters going thru allsorts to secure safety for the human race a stay of execution type thing they go home only to be accosted by the company and led to a boardroom, head of the table.... VICKERS newly renovated (after being badly squished) fully aware of her android status but keeping schtung as the inheritor of Weyland enterprises..... oh and somethings squealing in a room somewhere.... something blue n toothsome!
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November 14, 2012
i know you may be thinking yeh squished BY A FALLING JUGGERNAUT! but if assuming shes the next step on from davids model but maybe a failed prototype on account of being too emotional (so like a woman tsk) and explains poor relationship with her dad! look at the technical specs on david at weyland website regarding just how much force their frame can withstand (from above) clearly didnt counter for head removal though :S
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