Ridley is in search of locations for the sequel?

It sounds like this could surely be location scouting for Paradise, especially when considering Ms. Rapace's recent comments. I certainly hope so – for nature is one thing that we have truly yet to see of the Alien universe. Thanks for the links @Shambhala

AMG Blade Runner!! Ty Shambs! Strange thing, it's not really clear if Ridley is directing, all sites I have seen say Ang Lee is (taken over from Spielberg) O_o.

[i][/i]Shambhala, I sure hope so! Although a movie about Moses could be filmed with similar landscapes, which is why I am a little concerned. Another concern is this statement Scott made (Google translated)... [i]"If I say something else, you will know what film it is and the truth is that there is a big competition that is not to say that. It is written and so I can afford a nutshell, the casting is over but I can not say who will be in the movie, and the fact that we are working on location means that we are moving a lot, because when you do a film, you can not get there on a Monday and say come on let's roll."[/i] Why would 'Paradise' have "competition"? 'Exodus', on the other hand does have competition with Warner Bros. pushing for their Moses film, 'Gods and Kings' which now has Ang Lee directing, replacing Spielberg. Unless that is, of course, I misunderstand "competition" and if by competition, he means there is a lot of pressure to make sure no one knows what the film is, not that the film itself has competition, then, I am a little less concerned. :-) What else is interesting in the LA Opinion article is: 1) Scott mentions 'Blade Runner II' and that the script is "green, but very good". 2) Scott says in 'Prometheus' the "idea was to open a new world of possibilities in this universe and we are already working on the second part." Svanya, 'Gods and Kings' was taken over by Ang Lee from Spielberg, but 'Exodus' has always been under Ridley Scott. [url=http://screenrant.com/christian-bale-moses-ridley-scott-exodus-movie/]Here[/url] is the latest I've read on these Moses films.

@Membrane; Ty for clearing that up for me.

Svanya, sure! How about the comments about 'Blade Runner II' have a "green, but very good script" and 'Prometheus' and they are "already working on the second part"? Nice, huh?

cool news

Here are some pictures of landscapes in the Canary Islands. Like I said earlier, there is concern for me that some of the landscapes can be used for filming 'Exodus', but when I look at these, I feel they would suit 'Paradise' very well, depending on Scott's vision (he did say "paradise can not be what you think it is. Paradise has a connotation of being extremely sinister and ominous."). I don't know about you, but I would say these landscapes (including those with plants, etc.) look fairly "sinister and ominous" even before any possible post-production additions, etc. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Teide_Tenerife4.jpeg[/img] [img]http://dxing.at-communication.com/upload/Image/Tenerife-Island_Canary-Islands_EF8X_Volcano.jpg[/img] [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jEJ8YHio74A/TyazUDgdauI/AAAAAAAACHQ/vjjPG0_WgYM/s1600/%28Canary+Islands%29+-+Lanzarote+-+Timanfaya+National+Park.jpg[/img] [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FMvWIdcsOZU/Tyaxq04e_AI/AAAAAAAACGg/GvzvNlO939k/s1600/%2528Canary+Islands%2529+-+Lanzarote+2.jpg[/img] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Hacha_grande_from_papagayo_pano.jpg[/img] And [url=http://volcano.oregonstate.edu/oldroot/volcanoes/canary/canary.html]here[/url] is a link to some pictures of volcanoes in the Canary Islands

@Membrane, Thank you very much for that! and I'm sorry for omitting the points about Prometheus and Blade Runner lol but I was busy so again thanks for the help. :) Regarding all this, well, the only certainty is that Ridley Scott is a busy man, I really hope that he can made Prometheus. That should be the big question for Prometheus and Blade Runner fans... Ridley may do at least one of these so anticipated films? The best of course would be that both are made. Something very interesting is that Scott again refers to Lawrence of Arabia, so now we are between a rock and a hard place, because despite having relationship with Prometheus, anyway we can not ignore the context and setting of the epic of Moses.. Also I'm agree that this landscape can be used for both movies, so they kill two birds with one shot, I suppose...and TY for the pictures, they all look beautiful and are definitely made for a movie of epic proportions, then my fingers crossed on this.

more images [img]http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u498/protoxeno86/International-TouristsGranCanariainSpain_zps390d986a.jpg[/img] [img]http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u498/protoxeno86/799px-Montantildea_Amarilla_zps6ca42bbc.jpg[/img] [img]http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u498/protoxeno86/800px-Mar_de_nubes_Tenerife_zps3b0d2a8e.jpg[/img] [img]http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u498/protoxeno86/751px-Duumlne4_zpsaa5dfb22.jpg[/img] [img]http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u498/protoxeno86/800px-Las_Lagunetas_zpsdce32244.jpg[/img] [img]http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u498/protoxeno86/Paisaje_Lunar_de_Granadilla_zps1609c784.jpg[/img]

@Membrane; Yes, awesome news!

some possibly awesome news, if not Prometheus it could be great anyway and btw, those pictures all look amazing!

My biggest wish is that location will be picked for a Paradise :-) I would love the idea that R. Scott will be focused only on his "baby" The Alien universe :-) we fans would deserve it :-)

Ok here is my take on this after reading the article links and looking at the images: As much as we would like to only hear about Paradise and Blade Runner 2, I believe Scott probably succeeded in signing Christian Bale to Exodus, and since Gods and Kings is being hurried along by Warner Bros. , 20th Century Fox and Scott are fast tracking Exodus. The images suggest both Exodus and Paradise so maybe some could be used for both, but lets not look at this with our rose colored glasses that we all would like to see through but lets be realistic. Scott is indeed very busy but apparently this Exodus movie completing before Warner Bros.' Gods and Kinds is extremely important to Fox so they must have made him a very very lucrative deal and since they are bank rolling Paradise, which they have already green lighted, he would be a fool at this point to alienate them. Regarding Blade Runner II, it does sound like they are using the K.W. Jeter BR sequel based upon Blade Runner Down for the script based upon the information in the above link. If this is true its going to radically change all of my ideas about BR 2, and they would have a difficult time in casting from my view, not nessesarilly from the standpoint of Deckard, since that character is supposed to have aged at least a decade, but from the stand point of Rachel, who is supposed to have aged hardly at all due to being a replicant - but a different model subtype than Deckard who is a Nexes 6, but the same actress who looks exactly like the original Rachel is supposed to play Tyrell's niece and here is where they would really have some casting problems. They would essentially need an actress who looks just like Sean Young AS SHE LOOKED IN BLADE RUNNER!!! I would be very very frustrated in a different actress playing that role and Sean Young is too old now unfortunately...

@nostromo001, you have articulated some of my concerns well. I agree that Fox and WB will be in competition to get the first Moses film out as there really isn't any "competition" for 'Paradise'. Without my "rose tinted glasses" on, I do think 'Exodus' is what Scott was more likely scouting locations for, but with them on, I wonder if a story about Moses could really use all of the types of landscapes that the Canary Islands has to offer. Think Egypt and you'll see that only a handful of the landscapes from the Canary Islands can be used. They may be able to use some desert and areas with palm trees, but what else could a Moses story use? With 'Paradise', I see them wanting to use areas that cover all types of landscapes that we can think of, and show that the place of "paradise" would without a doubt have everything we would ever see. Desert, tropical, coastal, volcanic, strange formations, deep valleys, large mountains, steep cliffs, black sands, red rocks, etc... all of which the Canary Islands has - and I think 'Paradise' will look like the "paradise" we imagine on the surface, but underneath would be hell like we've never seen. Would going to the Canary Islands only for a Moses story be a waste of money for Fox? In other words, would Fox be willing to send Scott to the Canary Islands to get principal photography for both 'Exodus' and 'Paradise'? :-)

First of all, @Shambhala, great post and thanks for sharing the related articles. Also, it's great to read all the inspiring comments made by others so far, I'm always amazed by how many interesting thoughts are coming together so quickly after a good thread like this one has been started. The forum at its best again, just like it's been during the hype of "Prometheus"in its early stages as well as close to its release. As much as I would like to get excited about the 'potential news', it also brings back memories about all the secrecy, confidentiality and smoke-screening about 3 years ago, what was then followed by a flood of information so that many of us around here knew far too much about "Prometheus" before having even seen it. First time I saw it, I thought I was watching an extended trailer! But every time I rewatch it now, it keeps growing on me. Still though, reading this almost has a [i]deja vu feel[/i] to it and I swore to myself not to make that same mistake twice. Will I be strong enough to resist though? Anyway, that's just my personal opinion and off the original post's topic. Ok here's my take: Am I the only one feeling like what was shown to us in "Prometheus" wasn't as much alien-like, unearthy and extraterrestial as it could have, [i]should[/i] have been? When they landed on LV-223, it felt like we just came back to the very same location as in the opening sequence shot in Iceland, couldn't spot much of a difference there. And we all know what's possible these days with the clever use of CGI's and digital re-colouring. Taking the above posted pics (beautiful, by the way) as an example, we can see that even raw, unedited pictures of earth-based landscapes can already look more [i]"fantastic"[/i] than what we've seen in "Prometheus". Did those mountains really feel like there were [i]dwarfing[/i] Mt Everest? Not to me. This setting could have easily been a lost valley in the Rockies or the Alps, if it wasn't for the cloud formations, those few digitally added volcanic looking rocks and of course, the 'temples'. On the contrary, looking at all the incredible imagery we're getting from Mars through "Curiosity's" lenses, one could argue: "Well this [i]is[/i] extraterrestial and doesn't look much like it, all somehow pretty familiar." However, Scott's choices for backrops such as "Wadi Rum" were genius. All I'm saying is, more could have been done to it to make us feel like we really [i]are[/i] far out in deep space... and I didn't quite get that feeling. I know this is a long shot now, but does anyone here know about the so called 'Tepui's' (particularly "Roraima"), those table mountains in Venezuela and Guyana? I always thought Scott would at least try to shoot there or get inspired by it, although I'm aware that it is next to impossible to get a permission for shooting. Not to mention the costs of getting the crew up there. Anyway, it's just an idea as it looks very similar to LV-426's surface. To summarize, I really like Prometheus for what it is, I am excited to see the sequel(s) coming along, but I hope Scott heard our voices, will take his time and will do better than he did with Prometheus, I personally see a lot of room for improvements. Still on topic, don't you guys think it's a [i]little bit early[/i] for scouting locations when even the first draft script is still in such early stages of development? I'm finding that pretty unrealistic. Well, time will tell...

@HAL 9000, I don't know enough about typical time-frames and steps in movie making to answer your last question. But my thought is it may not be too early to scout a location if Scott already knows what "paradise" should like like, regardless of how much of the script is written.

why ridley is so secret he want to make me heartattack

Meh. Moses – I can give that a miss, for sure :(

@Membrane: You might have a point with that. Since Scott is a very visually orientated director, working pretty much from behind and even moreso, through the camera, this could support that thought. He probably knew all the way what he'd wants for "Paradise". If that's good or bad, or even better we won't find out for quite a while. Furthermore, scouting for locations does not set anything in stone, everything can still change dramatically as we've seen with "Prometheus" when they went out to re-shoot and add footage far into production. Another good thing is that apparently Arthur Max is with him, and he certainly knows what he's doing, he might be able to keep the jumpy Mr. Scott on a slightly more straight line. Haha! How about my other point, did "Prometheus" feel unearthy, weird and fantastic enough for you when thinking about backdrops, landscapes and locations? I'd recommend looking up pictures of "Mt Roraima" to get the idea about a certain inspiration I was referring to. Those table mountains have also inspired Sir Arthur Conan Doyle for his novel "The Lost World" as well as Pixar Studios when designing "UP". The chemistry and even certain physical laws we all take for granted here on Earth could be so very different out there, and I'd love to see Scott's vision of that much more boldly! Let me put the following quote here once more: [b][i]"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain..."[/i][/b] [b]~ Roy Batty.[/b]

@HAL 9000, Mt. Roraima is breathtaking... [img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/02/article-2153625-1366AE83000005DC-271_964x641.jpg[/img] [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZOdvf8PrDNw/UFt_4qb7CDI/AAAAAAAAKww/5sDbXwfEJWU/s1600/mount-roraima-venezuela.jpg[/img] Although it was beautifully shot, I agree that LV-223 did not feel as "unearthly" as LV-426 did, but that may have been by design. In other words, maybe we will find out more in 'Paradise' why the Engineers chose LV-223 and the terrain/landscape could have something to do with it. To have made LV-223 more "unearthly", they could have shot more at night or at dusk/dawn where the landscape was more of a hint instead of clearly seen in the daylight. How about flying into Roraima and finding an opening to a Giger-inspired world inside those table mountains in 'Paradise'? :-)

One of the things that struck me in the theatre was how ominous and very Alien the landscapes and textures were that adorned the opening credits. Huge, brutal and gorgeous. And real. Daylight played a huge part in the visuals, something you simply don't get in an Alien film, at least not often, and never with such depth and character. I loved the cold mistiness of it, wet and pregnant on Earth ( if that's what it was ) and dry and hugely sterile on LV223. It worked for me, having a real/ unreal landscape so artfully photographed and effected. Simple, and majestic. In at least one long shot from the Prometheus ships POV there are gigantic mountains in the distance, incredible looking CG climbing into the sky. Couldnt say about their scale versus that of Everest, but they seem to compete. The shots of the Prometheus distant, scouting the surface are breathtaking. The tone for me was perfect, reminiscent of the great SF paperback covers from the 60's, plus mass very well communicated, a huge ringed planet in the sky, the ship itself when parked was just perfect. A mecha monster, somehow combining 40, 50 years of SF aesthetics and advancing the look past now. That's not to say I wouldn't want to see something as bizarre and forbidding as LV426, elevated by these great artists. And it will probably happen. Its happened already, in the broader sense. Prometheus I thought lived very comfortably in the Alien world, the first "good" Alien film to come along in 30 years. Last thing. I think the vision was always at least two films. I think the unconventional aspects of Prometheus hobbled it commercially well before it was even released, and thus it was manipulated to stand alone. That said, I'm betting the sequel will get a bigger budget, and I don't think it's too soon to scout. The broad strokes of the story are probably already in place.

@Membrane: Glad you're as fascinated about Mt. Roraima as I am. The more you research about these incredible habitats in total isolation from life in the rainforests below, and almost from evolution itself, the weirder the rocks, plants and animals become up there. Tepuis are among the oldest known rock formations on earth, their surfaces were once part of the seafloor, now rising up to nearly 3000 metres above the Amazon rainforest. There are some amazing books and documentaries about the Tepuis out there, if anyone is interested I can dig out some links. Thanks for including some pics there. I've got tons on my PC but haven't uploaded them somewhere in a gallery easy to hyperlink to, so I thought it's best to just google it. I agree with you that they could have created a more gloomy, eery, unearthly mood by simply shooting in near darkness, but that's not necessarily what I'd like to have seen. I thought it was incredibly brave to shoot in bright daylight! But what I expected to see were things I'd struggle to imagine. Not all over the place, but here and there as a highlight, a reminder about how far away we are. Maybe some quicksilver lakes, huge gas cloud columns glowing in spectral incandescent colours , more of the beautifully shot planets in the distance, the material was there! But what I saw in the end was an 'exaggerated Earth'. Yes, it was subtle and it does fit in with the designs we've seen in the Alien universe before. Great idea to make the Tepuis part of their world. Strategically they'd make a formidable fortress, a great observation point, have a relatively flat surface ideal for atmospheric and interstellar launches. They're of soft sandstone ideal for carving out huge corridors and other internal structures. Ridley... are you reading this?? Haha! @Major Noob: I hope so too that Ridley Scott will emphasize on that much further in "Paradise"and I believe the two films will look very similar in terms of the production design, it'll be rather odd if they don't. I also agree with you on the quality of the opening sequence, it was perfect and there's nothing I'd change about it. My point was that it looked just too similar to LV-223's surface. Exactly, those beautiful colours and textures had nearly the same look and feel to them. And no doubt about the visual quality in Prometheus, that's one of the things I like most about it!

The difference for me between the opening planet and LV223 was the sense of moisture, and the sparse flora. I agree the tone was consistent between the two, but for whatever reason I just accepted it. I was so slack jawed happy I went along with pretty much the whole thing. As for locations, I'm once again being a drooling optimist. Give me Paradise! But... It's not out of the question. If I were RS I'd have some sense of urgency. I'd bet at the very least there have been some very cool conversations between him and Arthur Max. These guys are monsters. The images posted in this thread are fantastic, and have me fired up. Thank you all!

Excellent thread peeps, keep it up! I'm loving all the pics and information! I too am concerned about Ridley's recent amount of projects and how long we might have to wait for Paradise. Hopefully this isn't a big tease. @ Shambs, *fist bump*

Yeah enjoying this thread very much, too! Will get some pics of Mt. Roraima to add more fuel to your fires, Major Noob! ;-) @Freezer: *chest bump*

Ok for those interested, a few more pictures and links about the fascinating world of the South American Tepuis in Venezuela and Guyana... Get inspired, think "Paradise" and how this could be an inspiration or reference. Yes, there are ampules as well and creatures older than dinosaurs! First off, a link to [url=http://www.gryphonproductions.com/thereallostworld/flash_content/flash_content.html]"The Real Lost World"[/url], probably the best TV documentary covering this strange world. It's 2 hours long, has incredible images, in-depth information and stunning footage. I couldn't find any decent clips on YouTube but I'd say this is actually worth having in your DVD collection! Next up, another TV documentary by [url=http://youtu.be/KWkC7sXyChw]National Geographic[/url]. I found it on YouTube split into 4 clips. Sorry about the quality, it's the best I could find so quickly. Another [url=http://youtu.be/xsyFCh6dm8s]private clip[/url] I found on YouTube, not really a film but a stunning collection of photos, definitely worth watching to see the beauty and weirdness in its full glory... Now for some photos. A website called [url=http://www.wistuba.com/01b0219327002033f/506271958d0d8e301/index.html]wistuba.com[/url] is truly amazing, especially for those interested in carnivorous plants. Yes, you heard that right... an evolutionary glitch? Make sure you click all the links on that site to all the different galleries, it's well worth exploring. Here some samples: [img]http://www.wistuba.com/images/dscf4330_579.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.wistuba.com/images/dscf4424_579.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.wistuba.com/images/dscf4333_579.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.wistuba.com/images/dscf4357_579.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.wistuba.com/images/dsc1403_579.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.wistuba.com/images/dsc3158_579.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.wistuba.com/images/awi51032_579.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.wistuba.com/01b0219327002033f/506271958d0d8e301/506271958d0da3a04/506271958d0d8ee03/l001.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.wistuba.com/01b0219327002033f/506271958d0d8e301/506271958d0da3a04/506271958d0f10b55/l004.jpg[/img] Hope you enjoyed the show and spotted various references to themes in "Prometheus" and hopefully "Paradise"... HAL

Okay HAL 9000, now I won't be able to get any work done. :-) I agree that after looking through the links and the images of landscapes, this would be a good place for 'Paradise', although I don't know what Scott's vision is exactly. I go back to my earlier comments that it would be cool to have "paradise" look like what we typically imagine it to be, but underneath be pure hell. Some of the ones that stand out to me after a short browse: Looks like a combination of the opening landscapes in 'Prometheus' and LV-223 (not sure of the scale, but I imagine this being grand, like 500-600 meters from one side of this picture to the other so people would be very small in this shot) [img]http://www.wistuba.com/images/dscf4192_579.jpg[/img] Awesome plants, especially when there is a giant contrast in colors [img]http://www.wistuba.com/images/dscf4255_579.jpg[/img] Really neat rock formations [img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TTohz4Gfb94/THAm-koUjhI/AAAAAAAAABw/NvxLZJM_izA/s1600/Lost+World+%252813%2529.jpg[/img] [img]http://igosouth.com/SVsitefiles/insights/contenido/orig/lostWorld.jpg[/img] And an artists rendering on DeviantArt, which reminds me a little of the Prometheus landing in the valley on LV-223 with the ringed planet in the background [img]http://th02.deviantart.net/fs20/PRE/f/2007/243/0/7/Tepui_by_hoevelkamp.jpg[/img] Okay, back to work I guess...

The MT. Roraima is an excellent landscape for a sequel...a plateau in paradise, rises above the clouds with life forms that evolved differently from other life forms from the rest of the planet. The plants and rock formations are impressive indeed.

i don t think they look by filming paradise because ridley want s to make another project i think is paradise it s last on his program

@claudius, Yeah, I believe Ridley Scott was in the Canary Islands scouting locations for his upcoming Moses film called 'Exodus'. We've been just having fun speculating if he was there for 'Paradise' as well which led to other places that could be possible locations for filming. Of all the rumblings I've heard/read concerning the films that Scott is linked to (outside of all the TV stuff), here's what I've compiled (and a guess at the order in which he'll tackle them) - 'Exodus', 'Paradise', 'Blade Runner 2' then 'Forever War'. We'll see... time will tell.

@Shambhala: I'm glad you liked the inspiration and spotted the references to certain features or strands in the ALIEN/Prometheus universe. The Tepuis have inspired and fascinated me since many years now and I've just been waiting for the right moment to finally mention 'bring them' to this community. [EDIT]: At first I was a bit worried to 'hijack' your thread. I suppose I could have started a seperate one about this topic, but then figured yours is the better platform for it. So, thanks again for starting it! =) But like I said before, even if Ridley Scott and Arthur Max would share the fascination and see the potential for a filming location, no matter what money they'd throw at the Venezuelan authorities, obtaining a permission for shooting up there is very unlikely to happen. These outstanding habitats are extremely fragile and need all the protection they can possibly get, especially since adventure tourism is rapidly growing in that region. Well then, there's always the possibility of advanced CGI, which we all know Mr. Scott and Mr. Max are very capable of using efficiently.

@HAL 9000, I agree. I'm thinking lots of aerial and wide angle shots to get the feel (it simply cannot be recreated artificially... not yet anyway) and building on them with CGI if necessary.

@Membrane: Absolutely! And as far as I remember, the shooting on location in [b]Wadi Rum[/b] was not very extensive or intrusive to the environment. Later on, they also recreated most of it from spatial data (USGS) and aerial/satellite photography from GoogleEarth to generate the 3D structures and textures for the CGI. And I think we can all agree that the result is stunning (although not as alien-like as I'd liked it). Nudge, nudge... Another good example is how Peter Jackson's team have done Edoras (Rohan) in LOTR, using this isolated rock situated in that vast valley, adding most of the buildings later on in CGI and that, I have to say, merges pretty much seamlessly! The only problem is that there are only very few helicopter pilots out there who can negotiate those sheer cliffs of [b]Mt. Roraima[/b] and [b]Mt. Kukenam[/b] and even moreso, the incredibly dangerous turbulences caused by strong upwinds and [i]immense[/i] changes in temperatures. Many before have lost their lifes during filming there, but one camera man managed to tape some really stunning HD footage for a BBC nature documentary. So, maybe there is a realistic chance after all. Oh, I wish our voices would be heard... fingers crossed!

Oh, and I just remembered that the [url=http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Hallelujah_Mountains]Hallelujah Mountains[/url] (floating mountains of Pandora) in [b]"Avatar"[/b] were also largely inspired by the [b]Tepuis[/b] and created entirely in CGI. I think they got the original look and feel of the cliffs pretty spot on. ([b]not[/b] giving an opinion about the movie itself here) [img]http://images.wikia.com/jamescameronsavatar/images/archive/8/8f/20100409063107!Hallelujah_Mountains.jpg[/img]

@HAL 9000, it would be....... interesting, to see how 'Avatar' would stand up to discussions held on this forum. :-)