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SpellboundSynapses

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So I've been thinking about this, and the notion that the ship with the ampules with the black liquid was a weapon designed to kill humans makes ZERO sense. I mean, just think about it! We have an advanced alien race capable of interstellar travel, and in order to wipe us puny humans out they have to send a ship with a few ampules containing a black liquid that will somehow result in the spawn of the xenormorph which will somehow act as a bioweapon and exterminate humans... all this instead of just nuking the crap out of us xD. The xenomorph CANNOT be a bioweapon. I personally think the xenomorph (and the black liquid etc.) play a role in some complex life cycle that we don't have a complete image of yet. In Prometheus, I recall that the engineers DNA matched human DNA, but there's a difference between humans and engineers, so maybe engineers are another stage of this complex life cycle? It must be noted though that due to some very obvious flaws (like the removal of the helmets), Prometheus as a movie isn't reliable regarding scientific accurary, so this could mean nothing. Regardless, I still think that the xenomorph plays a much bigger role than simply being some hazardous bioweapon, and ideally I would want to see a ton of horrifying creatures in Prometheus 2!
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@SpellboundSynapses: There is also a mural that shows a creature that bears a strong resemblance to a xenomorph being "petted" by an engineer. I forget the thread, but BigDave put a screenshot of it perfectly. This is why I say it may even be a pet, or even a mount because the cave paintings showed creatures like that running like in a herd like many ancient drawings have depicted horses. The symbolism is so deep, seriously, every idea is food for thought. I am a big fan of the movie, and I believe the predators should be acknowledged as not only present in the same universe, but for being an important species. There was a predator inside the temple room in the movie, as a matter of fact, and when I learned this I jumped so hard! He was right in there stalking the captain of the Prometheus, you can see his triangle targeting laser on his chest. The predators have a HUGE place in the story, if all things from AVP are canon. They were worshiped as gods on Earth, and they are always searching for the ultimate prey and perhaps the means to engineer even deadlier creatures. I have seen the temple as a "forbidden, cursed" place, that a few predators came to in spite of that to seek the dark knowledge.
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@BSS1973: I want the predators in the movie. I know how unpopular it is, but even if the studio has to order Scott to do it against his wishes, I want them there.
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@SpellboundSynapses: Contemporary theory about how humans evolved includes wondering if evolution wasn't just happening on Earth since the dawn of time, but that at certain points someone helped it along or "guided it". -That's real scientific theory, and the engineers are like the force behind "intelligent design" in the movie's universe. Of course they can steer, and help along the evolution of life that they began. They "have to use the black goo" to begin the process, in their approach at least in "seeding worlds" with life to begin with, and they add new DNA or more to guide it along. Each world is like a vast colony for cultivating life, sometimes to leave it be, and other times, to satisfy demand such as the predators have for xenomorphs. This is only ONE REASON BEHIND THE CULTIVATION OF XENOMORPHS, there could be many others, and indeed, as Ridley Scott said, he wanted to do a film someday about a home world of the xenomorphs themselves. From the engineers' and predators' perspectives, they cultivate and use life as they will. They are also very honorable, and it was probably a rogue engineer colony on LV 223.
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@BSS1973: The engineer took off David's head to use it as a weapon because, I think, of two reasons: 1) the artificial life was seen as destined to overcome humanity, and kill him; and 2) Weyland had just given a speech to the engineer, in which he characterized himself as "a god like the engineers," "because (as proof) here is my creation". The offense was too great, and the engineer was destroying what he was able to gather than Weyland most prized.
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"- A warrior to fight against their gods / creators, or even against another faction of their own race (Elders)." I just don't think this would make any sense. We're dealing with a technologically advanced race, and I'm convinced that a civil war between them would be fought with nukes and lasers! "So is that the Xenomorph is the destiny of humanity, a failed experiment and a disappointment for the creators." The portrayal of the xenomorph on the mural indicates that it is revered in engineer society, so I don't think it is likely that it is a failed experiment. "but I still find it impossible to believe that the Engineer acted because David was a robot. Are we given any reason to think that at all? I believe so, yes. When they first approach the engineer, it seems very confused, although that is probably primarily due to it having been in cryo sleep for 2000 years, when it caresses David, and then subsequently rips his head off, exposing his synthetic insides and cream colored blood, that to me seems as an act of anger over what David is. I'm not so sure that the engineer acted the way it acted purely because David was a robot, the reasons you list sound valid as well, but I am pretty convinced that it played a part in the engineer's reaction.
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This is why Ridley Scott is a freakin GENIUS he gets our gears turning.

The Anunnaki were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, mighty men of high reno

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I just wrote a long post but instead of it being posted I ended up on some "become a fan" page... "I'm not too sure about that, in fact, we can see the engineer hit one of the mercenaries, throwing the man several meters against the wall. That is, He could kill Weyalnd without using any weapons, especially considering that it is an old man." This is another reason why I think he was intent on killing David, although I forgot to mention it in my first post. "It looked cool. That is often the reason." I definitely consider this very likely as well xD! Also, I neve really saw David as being evil. To me, he is acting out of curiosity without being "burdened" by morals. @Visionary Alpha: I'm sure Ridley Scott has confirmed that he considers AVP non-canon. I've never heard about or seen that predator in the temple room you mention. Maybe the red lasers were a reflection of the mapping drones Fifield brought. "This is why Ridley Scott is a freakin GENIUS he gets our gears turning." I agree with this to a degree. I think it's awesome when a movie raises questions, but the problem with Prometheus is that some of those questions are not about the plot, but about whether or not we're overthinking about something the writer might have just randomly popped in :D
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Wanted to give my 2 cents on the whole why the engineer did what he did to David and etc. After watching the deleted scenes mainly the parts where you see the engineer's expression at our accomplishments, like the girl playing the violin and of course David. It makes me think that when I see him beating the father was his own accomplishment, killing him, it reminds me of Frankenstein. The whole man vs nature etc. But I think he did out frustration of being reminded that if you get into creation that wasonly designed for God, you might find it biting you in the but like Frankenstein. Basically I think the Engineers made something like maybe the aliens themselves and they turned on them. And the Engineer bashing the father in the face with his own creation was like saying how dare you create life not knowing what evil it might bring.
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@Shambs: Thanks for the video. That is the greatest!

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