ripley in prometheus 2,ultimate news

Well we shall have to wait and see, i would not put it past Fox bringing her on board simply for pulling power but a movie that becomes more Alien-y and brings in Ripley could indeed be just to please fans and get more bums on seats.

I dont think we should go that route as there is a lot more to Prometheus than just to now make a connection to Alien and the Xeno etc... someone i spoke to said that they had heard they are even going to show how the Eggs came on board the Derelict and the Space Jockey and the movie could be doing Time Travel..... i take that as a pinch of salt and hope not..

But yes i would hold my hands up and admit i liked the idea of a cameo role for Sigourney Weaver in one of Shaws Dreams.

I went futher to add her into a rough ideas for a draft and idea i had for Paradise, where Sigourney plays the Legal Guardian  of Shaw after shes loses her Father, and thus Sigourney plays Shaws Grandmother who brings her up only as Cameo and Shaw is brought up with another Grandaughter of Sigourney so Shaw was aged 11 in this dream scene and the other girl 17 whos parents had died in a Minining colony accident.

I would then have another Dream of a young Shaw as women in 20s at her grand mothers funeral.

Latter i would show another dream of Shaws just few years before Prometheus where the 17 year old girl was now in her late 30s and gives birth to a baby while Shaw was there in 2092 where Shaw talks about her findings and clues and that she hopes to get someone to take her seriously about sending a mission to the Star system on the Star Maps, at the same time the Women talk about their parents deaths and lifes and how there Grandmother had brought them  up then we see them name the baby Ellen-Ripley.

So this makes a Cameo of Signourney but not as Ripley but as Ripleys Great Grandmother, and we see thus a connection to Shaw and Ripley as Baby Ripley is born and is the Daughter of Shaws Cusin. 

In my idea and work in progress draft i also had Lance Henriksen make a cameo at a CEO metting at Weyland to determine what happens next and he plays the role of Peter Weylands Younger Brother James-Bishop Weyland. Who takes the reins of Weyland after Prometheus due to the Death of Peter and Vickers, and James Weyland has plans to explore Military Tech side and compete with Yutani..

My Draft then had Vickers in it and a recording she had from Peter that left everything to Vickers, and she confronts James at the board meeting to say she is in charge and he ask where she has been for last 2-3 years.  She then has set of orders to follow and she fires James from Weyland Corp....... he then goes to sabotage Weyland and gets in cahoots with Yutani and has a Yutani Assasin Android go to kill Vickers (toward end of the movie), but Vickers gets the upper hand of the attempt and beats the Android showing Inhuman Strenth but doing so we see Vickers gets Cut and bleeds White Milky substance..

Thus this Vickers is a Android Clone of Mrs Vickers, and thus she is not no longer the heir to the Company.  And its James Bishop that then goes ahead and forms the Merger with Yutani as part of a deal he struck for their help to topple Mrs Vickers from Power.

It is april fools. There are no sources... However I don't think that she would join the cast...

Definitely hoping this is a prank. 

I can't believe some people actually believed this.

Was Ripley even supposed to be born during the time of Prometheus?

This as got to be an April fools prank! I mean, this would be a massive plot leak and it just happens to be leaked on April 1st.

Here's a bit of trivia for those of you who've doubted my nerdyness:

Ellen Ripley was born 7th January 2092 in a Weyland colony on Luna. She would have been nearly 2 years old when the Prometheus landed on LV223.

So, that would mean that the Prometheus set off for LV223 a few months before she was born?

Weird hey? 

People are far too gullible. April fools. 

As some have pointed out, its an April Fools.

On a serious note, the idea of Weaver appearing in the next film as a member of the Ripley family does not appeal to me at all. I don't think the films need to be connected in that way if im honest. The Engineers and the Alien (DNA,Proto,Deacon etc) should be the tie in factors.

"Ellen Ripley was born 7th January 2092 in a Weyland colony on Luna. She would have been nearly 2 years old when the Prometheus landed on LV223."

Yep... thats why i thought if she ever was cast as a cameo to be a relative would been ok, and i decided in the draft i abandoned that this was the case and had a dream of Shaws where her and her Cusin (who both brought up by there Grandmother) was together when Ripley was born and that Shaw Grandmother is Ripleys Great Grandmother.

However i agree that we do not need to see Sigourney in any other movie certainly not in  Prometheus part 2, i thought this could be a April Fools, but i had discussed Ripley in the Prometheus franchise in a thread on if Sigourney would be cast a while back.

My answer would been no..... but if it was then only as some cameo to be playing a older relative to Ripley... i.e Great Grandmother as well if they cast her in Prometheus 2 timeline well by Alien Sigourney would be what 93?

Dont get me wrong, I love the character of Ripley. Alien to Alien3 Ripley is an excellent example of character development within a franchise. Ripley in Alien res is a bastardised piece of shite.

@bigdave, Does the idea of a Rilpey relative in a promethues film appeal to you in the sense of

 you feel its needed to connect the films

or

its just a nod and wink, nudge nudge and all that.

I have to agree with E T Brett in regards to Ripley and Shaw being related. I'm just not diggin that atall.

If I were to pen my own ideas for paradise then here it is.

The film would start within a Chamber containing 3 Engineers. The room itself would be bio-mechanical in design with a throne. An Elder Engineer (similar to one from start of Prometheus in robes), an Engineer in a bio suit and a Regal Engineer. The elder would be presenting his new design, which would be a human, to the disgust of the bio suit Engineer. The regal Engineer would give his/her permission to the elder and the bio suit would leave in anger.

We would then cut to the ship with Shaw and David8. With David’s guidance Shaw would be attempting to reattach David’s head back to his body, she succeeds. They would then explore the ship itself, checking its cargo and the data within the ships records. David would discover more of the black goo.

Following them would be another ship, a human ship, similar in design to Prometheus (for now we’ll call it Prometheus2). On board would 2 or 3 David8’s with 5 humans including Peter Weyland. We would find that this Peter Weyland is the true Peter and he would be in his Forties. The story would go that in 2028 when Weyland industries developed stasis, Peter knew that this would be his chance to see what the future would hold. He would go on to enter extended stasis. Throughout the years a number of replicants from Tyrell stood in place for Weyland, appearing aged as a man would.

Prometheus2 would have set after the first ship 2 days later to watch over the mission in secret.

Obliviously that’s not where the film would end but I don’t have much more at the minute.

Just some ideas I would like in the next film.

@Brett,

nice man! Any excuse to bring Guy Pearce back would work for me. I am hoping we will see him, at the very least, in some flashbacks showing young Weyland or the Genesis of his first true android, something.

as for Ripley, you said it best man. She had her run, it was great (1-3) and then embarrassing (4), so let's let the poor girl rest in peace. 

Resurrection never happened-kindly destroy any and all copies of this filth that you may find.

i snapped the Bluray in my set- that's commitment to the cause. (It felt so good)

Well Actually i would not want to see Sigourney in the movie franchise not even a Alien 5..

I just said a while ago that if she was cast then i would not want her to play Ripley at all, not even as older Ripley from after Alien Franchise because well last Ripley was a Alien DNA Hybrid and well if we cast her again its not going to look right with a 65 year old playing the part of that Hybrid in the future and while Sigourney looks good for her age, i just dont think playing her as a older Xeno/Hybrid would work...

Therefore if they was ever and i say EVER as in its unlikely, to cast her then the only way i would think it would work would be as a older relative in a Cameo Scene, and when i was doing a mock draft for Paradise i did cast her to play Shaws Grandmother as a Cameo.

Thats not to say ideally i would want her in the movie, my answers to that would be no.

Now as far as Weyland goes well again, i would be a bit against the idea i would have it that Weyland had met his maker as he did in search for Immortallity.   I would welcome him in some flash back scenes for sure but as a real character in Prometheus Timeline after Prometheus.. i am not so keen.

But yes i guess we could see him if they go the route of clones, maybe just maybe it could work as Weyland wanted to be immortal and that he created clones of himself and using some kind of Technology he could transfer his memories etc to these clones and thus in effect he would be Immortal as he could just keep going back to a new body once his other had got old etc.

But then if this was the case i think it would make little sense for why Weyland would want to meet the Engineers to be Immortal or gain longer life/cheat death if Weyland had already had a way of doing this.

If there is one Character i would bring back it would be Vickers...

The idea i had for the mock draft was that we do see a Vickers, and it would leave you to wonder indeed the other Vickers must have been a Android and makes sense, as she was not keen on the task and mission so why send herself when she could send a Android or even clone....

That is what you would be led to think, as Vickers then has a video and documents passing Weyland Corp etc to her, sent and signed by Peter.....  Thus overthrowing the next in line which would been Peters younger brother James Bishop.

He then goes to work with Yutani and try and undermine and have Vickers killed by Yutani Android only to at the end we see Vickers beats the Android and some Mercs but gets cut and bleeds white... so this Vickers is infact a Android and one Weyland had created so that he could have input and controll over the company. 

This then means Vickers can not be CEO and thus James is reinstalled but as part of his deal with the Devil to topple Vickers he has agreed to a merger with Yutani.

But anyway while my ideas was thus another Vickers is a Android that survived, there is no reason Prometheus Part 2 could go the opposite and have it that the Vickers who died in Prometheus was infact a clone or Android.

The idea of bringing back Weyland stems from the fact I think he was under used. There was so much potential in the character I feel it’s a great shame we didn’t get more from him. Having a younger Weyland than the one we have in Prometheus gives great possibilities. The idea of him using extended stasis to such a time his company finds ways to prolong life through medicine seems logical so it could be used as a narative.

For the next film I think earth should be avoided just like in Prometheus. Anything going on between Weyland industries and Yutani holds no value in my opinion. We know that the “company” will form and it knows of the Alien, anything else is not important.

I agree that Guy Pearce was under used in the movie, so was Theron, the movie has helped some cast like Rapace and Elba.

I think while we know Yutani is involved in the Merger at some point, we have been show so little of the company and the same goes for Weyland as Prometheus was not too much about the company and i think this could be covered in part.

A lot of people are expecting now we will see what happend to the Space Jockey but as you had pointed out with Weyland-Yutani we know the company is a Merger but dont know how. With the Space Jockey we knew he had become victim to one of the Eggs the Ship had or so that seems.

I feel if we are show how the Eggs came to be, then we need no other answers to the Xeno as we know they come from the Eggs... what i mean is say if we are shown that Hammerpes laid them for instance then thats it, if we see a Egg Spore that looks like a Xeno Egg but smaller and we see it grows (Egg) then would we need to see the Face Huger etc that comes out?  (not saying the Eggs come from the Hammerpedes).

But you point with Weyland gives me a idea, you see i am against having Weyland clone himself as well why the hell would he want to be immortal and while the other Weyland could be a clone like in Bladerunner and so does not know he is not the only Peter Weyland etc. While Ridley has hinted the franchises could connect, but its maybe a red herring i am not so sure of that idea.  As well it opens us up to seeing lots of Ripleys too lol.

But while you dont think we need to see Yutani, and how they Merged with Weyland, but want to see Peter Weyland but younger.... how does this sound?

What if indeed Weylands DNA is clonned, and done so by someone or connected to Yutani, and thus its them that grant a Peter Weyland a new start a new life, its them that grant him extra life and for that he has to Merge the Companies.

Something like that could work, where the Peter Weyland we see in Prometheus indeed feels that the Engineers are his only hope to having longer life. In the Drafts Weyland was used as a younger verson of himself in his dream that David sees when he is comunicating with Weyland through the Visor while he is in Cryo-Sleep.... this would show that if Weyland could be granted IMMORTALITY he would also want to be made young again.

so maybe yes we could see Peter Weyland again, i just think it has to be handled in a certain way or else we get a Loop Hole to ask how come we dont see Peter Weyland in any of the Aliens or have them imply that Peter is alive and well just we dont see him.

It’s not that I don’t care about Yutani. It’s a case of, in a film where we are going to explore our origins, reasons to life, what it is to be human, immortality, existence, Gods, death, prefect organisms, weapons etc. Who cares if two companies merge?

With a young Weyland, I want to see drive and commitment to achieve his goals. I want to see him in his prime and doing everything he can to get his hands on Engineer technology. I would want to see how far he would go to get his answers.

With Shaw I want to see her asking questions to our origins. The hows and whys of our existence. I want to see her beliefs tested.

With David8, I want him to see what it is to be human, to be truly alive, have a soul. Feelings, emotions and desires. I would like to see him go down a dark path, something monstrous and evil.

I would like to see the evolution of the xeno DNA.

What happened on lv223 and lv426.

I just don’t see how or why Weyland and Yutani merging should be relevant when we have so much more to gain from other areas.

The merging of the companies would make for good trailers and promotion.

I see your point, and sorry if i came across that i was making out you dont care about Weyland Yutani Merger, i never meant to imply that what i was doing was kind of seeing your point as we know the company merged but not how.... like i said with the Space Jockey we know what happened to him not exactly 100% but thats the same with Weyland-Yutani.

The Space Jockey we know there race dable with experiments that result in Xeno-related Bio Weapons we know the ship at some point had Eggs on it and its as i said once we are shown how the Eggs came to be, be that they have been around before the Derelict crash or that they evolve from the Urns then we basically have all we need to know about the Xeno as it appears from Alien onwards.

The Franchise has a whole lot of unanswered questions.

Here are the main ones from Alien Franchise with a 0/10 to how much Prometheus covered.

1) The Space Jockey Race 7/10*

2) The Xeno Origins 4/10*

3) Weyland-Yutani 4/10

4) The connection between Space Jockey and Xeno 6/10*

5) The Space Jockey in Aliens Story 3/10 (as we know roughly anyway).

* each clue we got to these left us with more questions.

As it stands now Promethues left us with many questions, we still dont know the Space Jockey story, but we can assume he was similar to the Engineers and we know they have been messing with Bio-Weapons related to the Xeno DNA.

We are told these Engineers created us and wanted us destroyed and this opens a whole massive world of posibilties and also it could be the Engineers are not the supreme creator race but themselves creations.

We will find out more about the Androids and how the early models before Bishop where Twitchy and we will find this out by how David behaves independently.

We still dont know exactly what happened on LV 223 2000 years ago, we see clues, but just as we see the Space Jockey with his cargo of Eggs and Chest Bust hole and we connect what those Eggs contain, we still dont know every detail and likewise with the outbreak on LV 223.

We still dont know the connection and origins of the Xeno, the Mural and Fresco offer clues, but it does not give us the answers not in a way thats less ambigious.

While we have seen the Goo, i think there is still a lot more to be learnt about it and its origins and connections.

What becomes of LV 223, its potential other temples, the Hammerpedes, the Deacon the wreckage of the Life Boat and Shaws SOS.

Will Shaw and David find Paradise and gets some answers, and what questions does that leave unanswered for us. Who created the Engineers?

And yes then we may find some more information about Weyland or not....

But maybe we would find out what now becomes of Weyland Corp, now it appears that its CEO and Vice CEO are dead.... or so it seems, and to a degree i think this means we would also see more from Yutani in a sequel.

These are some of the many things that could be covered and may need covering in the Franchise but its a case of what stuff gets covered the most and is some left uncovered and of the parts that are covered the most will they give us answers or leave more questions..

so you see so so much to cover, and i think only a Part 2 and 3 could attempt to cover and do them justice.

I covered a lot of that stuff in a thread i made, where the purpose was to discus potential plots and maybe to say what order we want them to be given screen time.

You see not every plot point has to be giving large amounts of time, Prometheus did not spend a great deal off time with Xeno Clues and DNA, it also never covered the Engineers in greater depth yet that was the purpose, mind you the deleted scenes offered more coverage.

Prometheus was a movie where a lot of things never got much depth, i think a extra hour on screen and we could have seen characters like Vickers and Weyland used more, we could have had more about the Engineers etc.

So while it think we would see some clues to the Merger, or at very least some of the rivalry between Weyland and Yutani so that after this we can maybe get some clues to speculate why the Company Merged, i dont think it has to be a main plot....

I would assume that a rescue mission is sent to LV 223, and this either has to be a Yutani one, or a Weyland one that also fails and proves to be another devastating blow to the company.