
Cremildo
MemberOvomorphJul-04-2014 7:14 PMA clone is physically identical - but the personality, say, the soul, cannot be cloned.
Weyland having a clone of himself would not be at odds with his journey in Prometheus.

BigDave
MemberDeaconJul-05-2014 4:11 AMWell as this is a Sci Fi movie i guess a lot depends on how the Human Body works, there are those who believe that our personality is simply our Soul that passes onto the next stage in after life, then we have those who do not believe in after life, there is no soul there is nothing when we die.
And that it is our brain that holds our memories, our personality etc....
Many movies have tried to go the route that you can Clone a Human and then transfer the Data stored in the Brain to the new Clone, The 6th Day touches upon this and so if this was possible to transfer ones data to another brain then in theory that person can live for ever, just case of transfer data from brain of a damaged body to a fresh one.
We dont know how Prometheus is going as far as those questions, of where do we go when we die, and i am not sure they would be going the route of we go to a Afterlife.
As far as if a Clone would not be at odds with itself in a Journey if that means Weylands after death, then the Clone of Weyland would not be bothered about anything that happens to other Weyland be that he does go to a Afterlife or just ceases to exist, as that Clone is now full of life....
But that Clone can not have a soul, and in cloning someone and then transfering the Brain Data to this clone, would that also point that the Orginal has no Soul either... its a very tough subject to touch up on.
My point was that if Say you cloned yourself or had Clone on stand by and there was some kind of Device that can capture and store all your memories and personality, to then be transfered into a new Clone...
If you used that device today right now then only your memories etc upto that point would be transfered to the new Clone, if you had a futher 6 months worth of experiences that you did not back up after that date. The Clone when needed would not have any memory of those extra 6 months.
So the only way a Weyland Clone could work and be upto date with Weylands Soul so to speak would be if such a device captured his Data every few days, but then with Prometheus destroyed is this data lost? would they have to use a back up from before the mission set off 2 years earlier?
And thus as Weyland could know he would live on forever in a Clone, he woudl still have fear of the After Life and whats next...
The perfect example would be the 6th day, the Clone of Adam Gibson was no different to the real Adam Gibson, he actually thought he was Adam Gibson. Once he found out he was a Clone, i would assume he would be as fearful of death as the orginal Adam Gibson would be... even though he would know that the company could reclone him and just transfer his Data over again.
That Clone actually became individual, it would not be as easy for him to say, oh their is two of me, well if i kill myself i live on within my clone/orginal me.
Its a very tricky situation that if was real it would be hard to see how a Clone would react because a clone who is actually fully Human with Human Emotions would not accept they was just a clone and have no worth... Blade Runner touches upon this perfectly.
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BigDave
MemberDeaconJul-05-2014 7:32 AMgoing back to the OT..
Yes a clone of Weyland could be way to bring him back, however i think if we went that route it opens up a can of worms in that who else is a clone...?
They could bring back Vickers, they could bring back Ripley and say hey... Ripley in Alien was just a clone of a older Ripley etc...
If Guy Pearce is to get some role i would still say it has to be in flash back scenes, or better still part of Davids Memories as Flash Back... David did use that visor to view Weylands Dreams and even able to talk to him while he was in his Sleep State, a Scene of this was even in the draft but not shot.
so i would assume David would be able to remember every detail of every dream he tapped into of Weylands and even maybe if David has some kind of malfucntion he could end up having a younger Weyland in his head telling him to do stuff etc.
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brego
MemberOvomorphJul-06-2014 9:39 PMThinking out aload.... A clone which has been grown in stasis and which has been fed information on Weyland's life day by day since the clone was created via digital links directly to the brain, ala The Matrix. Once Weyland dies, a middle aged Weyland clone is awoken and for all he knows he is the real re-incarnated Weyland, young and vital, with all of Weylands huge intellect in tact..... He would also have full knowledge of the goings on right upto his Death on LV423. If David was able to "watch" Shaws dreams in stasis, this could be plausible as the technolgy is roughly the same.

BigDave
MemberDeaconJul-07-2014 9:44 AMYes thats kind of similar to what i said, if they had some way to transfer memories and that alternative Brego could also work in that information is passed each day and hey maybe the Clone is asleep but thinks they are living?
Anyway same problem with this would be the same as doing a method like in the 6th Day. And that would be the Clones memory and experiences would only be as upto date as the last update.
So as you sugested we have to wonder how is any information that Weyland on Prometheus able to send the data of his memories back to teh Facility where the Clone is and what point was the last transmision, surely he would not have information from the moment they went down to Wake up the Engineer?
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MonsterZero
MemberXenomorphFeb-16-2015 1:17 PMThis is a idea I have for a prologue to Prometheus: Paradise.
Elizabeth and David continue to the Engineers homeworld, only to find a dead planet with signs of a massive war...they are about to leave...when David's planet scans(he is still learning to use the alien scanner)finds a vast underground cave with millions of aliens(engineers)in cryo sleep.... and the life signs of 3 humans(also in cryo)! Elizabeth and David enter in the vast alien tomb to find the sleeping bodies of Peter Weyland(early 40's about what Guy Pearce is now), David Antilles(the human version of David..dual role Fassbender..he'll love the challenge) and a unknown female...........
Intriguing or boring?
And yes, I know how they got there.
I think Peter Weyland deserves to have his day in the alien sun.

MonsterZero
MemberXenomorphFeb-16-2015 1:36 PMOh and a genetically modified Weyland is an absolute bad ass, eats xenos for breakfast(Guy Pearce would kill to have this role). ...and he is the real Weyland on Paradise, not a clone.