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UFOANAUT

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I grew up with alien since I was 4.   I'm tired of the xenomorph being some shit animal. I feel like if you really want to refresh and gain a new audience then it's time to give the xenomorph the story it was meant to have.      

Dan O'bannon originally intended that the alien had intelligence and the ability to have civilization, architecture and art.     It had a unique life span.  As soon as it was born it would be fully grown in a short time but mentally still a child.   It's first phase of its life is nothing but ULTRA VIOLENCE.  Nothing but blood lusting rage.   Elders or the parents would guide and care for it until they reached awareness and intelligence and lived up to 200 years.    

In the original script the civilization was long dead and gone except for the temple that housed the last of the remaining offspring, but was later discovered and possibly exploited.   

This would of been included but left out for time and budget costs. 

I feel something like this is in honor of Obannon who really kept an eye and made sure the 1979 alien would not end up a shitty movie.     This guy knew what he was doing.    RIP

 

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@BigDave. Starbeast did not have the pyramid, ritual chamber, spores/vessels and the facehugger or chestburster. Alien introduced that.

Starbeast was only about a derilict alien ship,the human crew that found the skeletal remians and took the skull for evidence of the discovery of the planet which unknown to them contained a creature inside.

The egg silo giger made was just ideas and designs to play around with. Nothing to be taken serious since it made no sense and was blowing out of proportion.

I feel that alien giger mural was just showing the female xenomorph since in the original story the alien was intended to have 2 sexes.

The frescos mural creatures I feel are Xenos because of it has the main features of the spiked elbows and the tube like designs on its shoulders.(just like a xenomorph) The head also resembles the original alien sketch ObAnnon had in mind before giving design freedom to Giger.

But so far I feel that the frescos are real clues than just symbolism for artist giger.

So far i wouldn't assume that the eggs would be a way to procreate engineers or morph a host into a first stage engineer. They're Dna is pretty much resemblance to humans, so I'm guessing they have no problem getting engineer women pregnant.

If we see eginner women then I hope that have some big hips, big ass and a pair of strong shaped legs like Chung lee

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"The head also resembles the original alien sketch ObAnnon had in mind before giving design freedom to Giger."

 

This is something i raised before... that indeed the Fresco Creature did look like O'Bannons design..... but also O'Bannons design was also something similar to the Sacrificial Beasts used in Star Beast as far as Concept work on the Sacrificial Chamber.

Star Beast did indeed have a Temple... well a Pyramid and under it a Sacrificial Chamber, with a Altar and Murals and also carvings that looked like the Spores.  If you find Star Beast Draft and have another read you will see..

Here is the concept work..

Note Chest Buster looks like the Trilobite...  the Face Huger Stage looked like the Trilobite right after it was removed from Shaw... and notice the Sacrificial Beast.. it is like a basic painting form of O'Bannons Star Beast Sketch.

Which in turn to me looks like the Prometheus Fresco Creature.  I really hope this is the ideas they was running with and explore.

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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Also the Egg Silo Giger had painted a Concept work... then he painted a Background Set based off that with model of the inside, this was the set used at distance shots in Alien... and was when produced intended to not be part of the ship but it later had to be made to look that way when they had no time and budget to show us a separate Temple/Eggs Silo Complex.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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@BigDave.     You raised that the fresco was similar to a xeno but different.  You made no mention to obannons original alien sketch...as I priviously posted.    

Starbeast was just the outline.  And only had the minor details of the crew landing on a mysterious ship

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dan Obannon and Ronald Shusett who have been interviewed and have said in dvd documentaries and books that star beast was only about what I privously posted above..... 

Alien - The Monster of all Monster Films

"Set in 2087 A.D., the script began aboard the commerical starship Snark with the interception of the source of a signal, a storm-swept planetoid, and discovers the remains of a downed spacecraft and its sole inhabitant, a skeletal pilot, The crew takes a number of scientific readings, and return to their ship with a misshapen skull as proof of their findings. The skull carries the host of an alien creature inside, which quickly matures to full size and begins terrorising the crew once they have set course for home. Evading capture by the beast, the crew eventually joins the forces to blast that creature into space. O'Bannon was not at all pleased with his first draft, and explained his frustration to Shusett"

when Starbeast was changed to alien only The 2nd half of the plot or story was done. This is what they had before changing the story further 

From "The Book of Alien"

Three crew members go exploring through the baron, windswept and dusty landscape. Using a portable scanning device they follow the signal and discover a derelict space craft of non-human manufacture. They enter and explore the craft. They come across a strange 'urn' type object open at one end with strange markings on the side. They eventually find the fossilized remains the ship's pilot and discover in its last moments has scribed a triangle on a near by panel. They take the creatures fossilized skull and head back to the Snark.

 

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This idea that Alien intended the creature to be some superintelligent and long lived creature is a tad misleading.  That concept never survived the writing process.  Ridley intended the opposite - that Alien was supposed to have a short life span and spend most of that short life span trying to procreate.  That idea isn't made clear in the film either, and has subsequently been removed in the films that followed.

 

After six outings, how do you sell suddenly cultured and intelligent Aliens?

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They also wanted the SJ to be a peaceful, herbivorous explorer.

So many ideas for a film get subverted, sometimes for the best, sometimes not. There was some discontent from O'bannon and others over Ridley's manipulation of Alien, and it's a bit regrettable they went public with their gripes. Look at the results! If they had been a bit more canny they would have just quietly enjoyed their names being on such a success.

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The hope surely with C O VE N AN T is that they apply a rigorous and well crafted backstory to the origins of the Zenomorph. Everything about the Zenomorph indicates a naked singular unyielding lifecyle breaking down existing material and re building it in an entirely nihilistic way perpetuating more and more destruction. It is the exact opposite of the catalytic life giving affect of the taking sacrificially of the catalyser reflected in the opening shots.

They both break down material but one leads to freedom civilisation and independence creativity the other leads to destruction appalling retribution and punishment.

The enquiry is why did the gardeners fall why with their enormous power and responsibility did they fail. It is the failure of intelligence and lack of wisdom of the inhabitants of Paradise I want to understand so the mindless retribution and punishment of the Zeno can be explained.  

 

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