Not Available

FACEHUGGERS! - While it would certainly be an unorthodox approach that would undoubtedly be met with disdain, it is nevertheless a very interesting premise! :)

"'We are the 1%.' :D Personal inclinations mean everything to the person."

Not to the IP owner who is providing the finance, however.

"Cameron's MORB design was influenced by physical limitations, but also by Cameron putting his stamp on things. His ridged skull was more insectile, and, to me, more pedestrian. It's not unreasonable to look at the insect world for inspiration, but it is terrestrial."

They were influenced by insects on the first one and as far as I can see, Cameron/ Winston's ridged head is simply a 3D version of the airbrushed 'ridges' underneath Giger's dome.

"If we want to examine what happened with the Sulaco (and convenience does settle things) then let's ask this: what became of the Sulaco itself? "

Depends who you ask.

According to the Earth War comics, it was intercepted on the way home, Ripley was woken and went back to LV-426 yet again with more soldiers to obtain eggs from the Derelict. Carnage ensued.  Sulaco continued back to Earth with remaining crew.

According to the Colonial Marines Tech Manual, it was intercepted on the way home, traced back to its point of origin by the Company, and eggs were obtained from the Derelict.

According to Alien3 - The Gun, marines boarded it in orbit over Fiorina.  It was full of Aliens.  Carnage ensued.

According to Aliens : Infestation - it was found adrift near Gamma Leporis by USS Sephora.  There were Aliens and UPP soldiers on board.  Carnage ensued.

According to Aliens: Colonial Marines - it was found in orbit above LV-426.  There were Aliens on board.  Carnage ensued.

Good God. You are an encyclopedia.

"The Sulaco can travel around 39AU in that time, which is around the distance from the sun to Pluto,"

Well...that's your answer right there....The Sulaco HAD to be 30 seconds to a minute, near Fury161....30 seconds past and they would have had to turn around 5 minutes away and the fire would have spread. Sulaco is moving so fast that's the odds are astronomical! It just happened to be 30 seconds from Fury161. As I'm typing this, the Sulaco has just gone 1000AU and is out of range!

AND that it came out of hyperjump above the prison base...luckily the planet wasn't facing the wrong direction! 'Luckily' the pod didn't smash into the prison or dry land....or into deep sea and gone 20,000 fathoms..but luckily is was to within wading distance.

The movie implied (IMHO) they were already in orbit when the action started. Maybe they were there to return cargo or personnel? Or WY didn't want the eggs near Earth so they sent the Sulaco to the secret weapons factory on Fury161?

What if Ripley somehow encounters the Black Liquid, or it is stumbled across by the modern-day decendants within the Alien universe (aka: Ripley, Newt, Hicks, Bishop, etc.) but somehow it has "fermented" in all that time since Humans encountered it during the events of Prometheus and Ripley somehow becomes "infected" but for her it is different - now.

Somehow, she begins to ascend or she knows she is "infected" and does not know it will make her ascend INTO a higher order of being: an Engineer! The first female Engineer since, well, when-ever!

Like The Fly she is going to transform into SOMETHING and she knows it so here's where Bloomkamps conceptual artwork comes into play.

Somehow, during the ascention process (see V's the Star Child when the little girl of Newts age transforms inside a chrysalis into a young woman and the Deltan woman who, along with Commander Decker, transcended into a higher lifeform in Star Trek: The Motion Picture) Ripley begins rumblings of the transcending effects into the Mother Engineer (Ripley herself becoming the Egyptian celestial goddess Nute, ironic, she is now become like Newt in similar namesake) and has to take the now ancient Derilict or second Juggernaught but ancient no less due to possibly being found elsewhere from original Derilict.

Because it is old and becoming defunct she now has brooding knowledge due to the transcending effects and knows exacltly how to pilot the gargantuan thing!

Somehow, there is a perilous, insuing disaster that she was desperately hoping to avoid coming very soon so in the escape she places the 2nd ancient Juggernaught into timeslip mode and in travelling further away or so she thinks she actually travels into the past along the curving arc of her comendered ships flight path.

Somehow she is knowingly or unknowingly carrying Xeno eggs but what she has not considered or only JUST comprehended upon her arrival (think Star Trek 4: The Voyage Home self-fulfilling time-loop) that she has just brought the Xenos past the point/events of Prometheus before they were even created or even existed in the universe prior to the events of Prometheus that we know of.

Again, she is infected (see Alien 3) and yes, you guessed it crash lands upon LV-426 - THUS, BECOMING the Space Jockey and the slef-fulfiling instigator of the alien cycle and its outbreak into the galaxy in the first place - if it doesn't already exist during this time - YES - 2000 years ago. Or at least several centuries with the Derilict already in an ancient delapadated condition now being taken back to a much earlier event in the past and crash landed at that only add to the ancient weathering, wear-n-tear effect upon its entire hull structure.

Yes, it may change our perception of the Space Jockey and some may want to keep the idea that itself is yet another alien race separate from The Engineers and the Engineer Elders and the Xeno. It could en-up being Shaw who ascended/transcended to thus become in a continual time-loop the Space Jockey. Or the Space Jockey could be the thousand to million year hence result in alien Xeno evolution somehow BECOMES the Space Jockey in a strange life form transformation from a primitive "predator species" such as reptiles and evolved itself into a more wisened creature! Stranger things have happened and that was only on Earth!

If you all will permit me and the administration team I would very-much like to start an entire thread just on this topic alone and would like to paste all this info here into it to see what other reactions/comments may come from it.

Administration Team, your co-operation on this matter would be most grateful!! 

Where are the monsters?

@HyperNova,

Not sure I like making Ripley the 'nexus' or Shaw for that matter.

If there is one person who would cause a time loop it would be Peter Weyland.  Without Weyland there is no Nostromo, no Prometheus expedition...no synths....Shaw and Holloway would be kookie ancient astronaut professors and Ripley would be working 2 jobs, putting her daughter through nail school.

If you could bring Peter into your equation...I think it has possibilities.

Personally if I want esoteric Interstellar-esque circular causey-effecty timey-wimey silliness - I'll go watch Interstellar again. :)

S.M. Keep your sour-grapes tone in check!

We're just talking here!

As far as I am aware there is no cause for your piss-ant attitude towards me, I'm just making hypothesis here to ponder without having you put your sarcastic two-cents-worth into it!

Can't we just generally chit-chat and get along...?

I'm not your enemy... Just try and make an effort if you will... It was just ideas to throw around and wonder about...

So if we could both get back on topic if not about this idea then some other, that would be welcome...  

Note the smiley in my post.

If you will.

There's really no need to be so touchy.

I'll go back to my earlier question - 'Where are the monsters?'

O.k... Monster Zero/S.M - I was going to follow-up or rather I should have added more clarity to the subject I was mentioning. Of course there would have to be other set pieces, action, suspense, drama, chills, etc. and I didn't mean to sound as though all Ripley would do through the entire film was just transcend/ascend, no. Of course not! There would, without a doubt, have to be more, and I was wondering if Bloomkamp was going to make a two-part film like Twilight: Breaking Dawn parts 1 & 2.

Alien 3.0 (+1) would be a pondering, building of foreboding and dread much like the first Alien intermittent with action, Alien 3.0 (+2) would be rising to a crescendo much in the same vein as Aleins but I stress not to copy both films but add reversals so elements of Aliens inspiration are in Alien 3.0 (+1) and elements of Alien are in Alien 3.0 (+2).

But with regard to my suggesting of Ripley's "infection" and eventual ascention/transcending  that would take place at the mid point of either one film or midway through the second part film. Like in Star Trek, the motion picture, that woman becomes exactly duplicated half way through the film then in the last say 20minutes Decker goes through the transcending process and disappears. Well, I just figured that as-well-as other insurmountable obstacles being included within the story like Xenomorphs and investigation the possible second Engineer/Space Jockey Juggernaught the inclusion of an infected Ripley storyline could be added. 

Think of it like Excaliber, with King Aurthur, the Engineers try tampering, manipulating, drinking the black liquid and it is always met with the same result: as if the liquid itself knows who is pure-of-heart and who is not (like the Venom tar-thing in Spiderman 3 has a sentient intelligence even though it was evil mainly in that, the thing did still think and display an order of thinking) and-so the black liquid destroys those whom it thinks (if it does think) who are not worthy (Milburn/Fifield too) yet those who are "chosen" by some unknown devine right - even to themselves - it makes them trancscend into their own personal ascention right to a higher order.

Perhaps Ripley is one of the few "chosen ones" who this happens to. The black liquid to Ripley is the same equivalent of only Aurthur being the "chosen one" to pull Excaliber or Excaliber letteing Aurthur pull it out of the rock. It could happen to her midway through say the second film if they did it that way and as in The Fly and The Thing the visiable changes begin to show. Then by the last half an hour say of the films climax as with Shaw in Prometheus she is trying to escape from the Engineer taking off only this time imagine that it is a changed Ripley deliberately trying to take off in a Juggernaught/ancient Juggernaught/ancient "workable" Derilict and eveacuate herself and whatever nightmare may be aboard ship.

Maybe time travel is not what she was originally planning to do just fly away, maybe into the nearest star or a black hole. Maybe time traveling back into the past was an unforeseen consequence/cause and effect she had not anticipated and only succeeded in making matters even worse for the galaxy because now she has served to unleash the alien Xeno onto into the past histories of an unsuspecting universe. And in doing-so perhaps the ancient Engineer/Elders came across an exotic/newly configured Juggernaught design and they began back/forwards engineering the design and hence that is why, for some reason in their past, their ship designs went from round, saucer-shaped  to wish-bone shaped.

Added to that, they discover the alien Xeno eggs and it is at that point in the past that an "evolved" Ripley has served to introduce an element into the ancient Elders lives which bring about the coming of the Engineers/ Titans war of attrition with their own kind and it leads up to the races eventual downfall. This is much like in-keeping with the Planet Of The Apes history being pre-ordained to happen regardless so someone going into the past becomes part of history that will effect their destiny leading up-to and after their birth. They are destined to be caught-up in a convoluted time loop.

@Aorta

Good God. You are an encyclopedia.

Exactly!

I'm having my doubts that S.M is actually human. :)

@S.M

Please allow theories to go without explicitly detailed scrutiny for less tension in comments.

@HyperNova

I really like your theory of Ripley becoming an engineer to create an eternal paradox. Brilliant! 

Yes nice ideas.... cant fault your imagination.... HyperNova but i doubt we would see this.. i would also not be a fan of it as in context to potential ramification for the franchise..

But still nice theory.

Thank you Facehuggers/BigDave!

Man, do I love this post!!!