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Shaw's Role in Covenant

JakeBranson

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Shaw's Role in Covenant

I think David is going to use Shaw to create some type of ultimate xeno-birthing machine, which will give rise to the UltraMorph.

Ridley Scott stated that he was going to introduce a scene in Covenant that blows the original chestburster moment in Alien out of the water, so my guess is this is what we'll see, and what the crew from the Covenant will have to face when they arrive at the Engineer's planet.

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Big Dave: Yeah, Aliens kind of over-did it. Five or six would be enough as long as they are well done.

 

I am looking forward to see what kind of characters they will have in Alien Covenant. It will be interesting if they have managed to get them right this time. Hopefully they will not be copies of the characters that we have seen this far even though it might be difficult to come up with something totally new after many alien movies (Alien, Alien 4, and so on). As long as they are well written then I am fine with that.

 

Daniels, it will be interesting to see what kind of character that she is. The lead character is extra important since he or she usually gets the most screen-time.

 

Hopefully they will have better security this time. I don't even remember who did the security in Prometheus. I just remember Shaw's stupid comment about no weapons.

 

Something related to the Engineers could be interesting. Maybe he is like a long distant relative? If they have some relatives to the Engineers, I hope that they will be well done. It could be interesting to see what that kind of life-form would be like.

 

Movie usually have filler characters but I also hope that the filler will be better this time in case they will mess up the main characters but I think that they will at least get David right. I am still a bit worried that they will mess up the characters this time.

 

Maybe some people are better suited for the Hammerpedes to attack them? I don't know what would be so special about them, it is just a general idea that I have.

 

Exactly so maybe there will be some monster that prefers to grow inside the head in some way. Maybe it will feed off brain fluids?

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I will attempt to tackle the 3 Questions...

1) Why was the Xeno made?

Alien and Aliens gave us the idea that the Xenomorph could be used as a Bio-Weapon and Ridley confirmed this was its purpose and so it was a Bio-Weapon that was to be used in some unknown conflict or target.

Prometheus gave us clues that LV-223 was a place the Engineers were most likely creating and experimenting with something that could be used as a Bio Weapon and the Xenomorph is related... how its connected is not clear but it was likely.

*Created from the Black Goo, either on purpose or as a accident.

*The Xenomorph or related Organism was re-weaponized to make the Black Goo.

But either way the Xenomorph ended up being used as some kind of Biological Warfare.....

2)What role has the black goo in it? 

I think the answers are in previous Question, but it would seem they are connected... when looking into all clues and comments that i have taken in from every source i can think of then i am led to something related to the Black Goo had eventually at some point led to the Xenomorph...  it evolved from something that involved the Black Goo.

Possible clues before could hint at after the Outbreak 2000 years ago... or prior....  But they could now be changing the Date/Event of when the Xenomorph was created with the Prequel Trilogy.

3)What is the connection between LV-426 and LV-223?

Again pretty much answered in the previous Question... Ridleys comments did say that the Derelict and Space Jockey did not travel far before the Pilot was infected with his Cargo and even adding something Evolved.

There are many possible answers... but it would seem that the connection is that either...

a) The Derelict had left LV-223 with a Cargo, was this Black Goo that evolved, or something from the Black Goo that evolved and got to the Pilot.....  or was something on LV-223 that evolved got on board the Derelict and got to the Pilot and then either laid Eggs or evolved the Cargo to Eggs.

b) Or a the Ship was carrying some Cargo to LV-223 from some other place (as not far in Engineer Terms could be a vast distance) and maybe the Cargo was used as a Weapon intended for LV-223 or to be used as experiments on LV-223. But it only managed to get to LV-426

I would be more guided to a)

But again the whole answers to those 3 questions could now be completely changed compared to what the clues had been shown and comments leading up to the release of Prometheus which included clues from previous movies too.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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The Security in Prometheus was brought in by Vickers and i would assume Security was greater on Prometheus than the Covenant.... the Covenant is just a Colony ship.... however the level of Security depends on how much the company is invested in this mission depending on how they ended up sending the ship to Paradise and what really do they know.

The Engineers we do not know how many different castes and types there are.... We have ONE Human kind on Earth, but we do have different racial features that differ us a bit.  But we dont know if the Engineers are all just one race...

They are supposed to have seeded life on many Worlds, and so Humanoids created by them could be much more than just Mankind.

They are our interpretations of Gods and various tales of Gods and Subcreation/Hierarchy does have different levels that are similar but different....  If we take the Angels.. there are not supposed to just be ONE RACE of angels there are actually 9 castes according to some variations of Christianity which include Seraphim, Cherubim, Angels and Archangels

And so indeed there could be a number of castes to their system... we could have Elders, we could have the 8-10ft Bio-Terminator LV-223 guys taller 12-16ft kind (Space Jockey) and even smaller almost normal Human sized ones (Emissaries

We really dont know for certain they can explore this in a number of ways.

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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Interesting idea about Monsters living off brain fluids.... yes they could have a Parasite that attached to the Brain it controls the Host to perform tasks needed to its Agenda and Procreation and then it Morphs the Brain when thats done into some Organism that Brain Bursts from the Skull. This would give it a creepy aspect and not much different to how The Thing operated.

As far as Characters... who knows... Prometheus had a no name cast really only real Top Stars... who was A-List Fassbender (One of the Main Roles) you could then class Pearce as a once A-List ish and Theron who i feel are more B-List as supporting main Characters... then you had Elba who is a B-List but a up and coming Actor again in a more supporting role.....  then we had Rappace again a B-List star who was to play the other Main Character

But for a number of people she was not really as interesting Character.... Fox and Ridley knew this and have decided to bring in a new Character who could maybe fit more in the Ripley Mold... This is Daniels (who is connected to Ripley, but is this a red herring and connection is just in the kind of Character?)

The Change of the direction Prometheus sequel was looking at to Alien Covenant and a lesser role for Shaw could mean Shaw is not going to feature much in the franchise.

But with 1-2 more movies... i am sure Daniels and David will play large roles and be carried on in the next movie after Covenant (not Alien 5 lol).

so yes i think Fox and Ridley have looked at criticism with Characters for Prometheus and wont make the same mistakes.

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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