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Yes.

Giger's Necronom V (the main inspiration) could be based on that.

I also remember of some old French book,I forgot its name but I remember the cover of it having some old man sitting on the ground, looking throught the telescope with some boiler on his back and some tube going from the boiler to his beard,thats simmilar to the SJ design.

 

 

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Absolutely, I recall seeing this before and linked to Giger's inspiration for the Jockey. I believe a lot of the Alien and Prometheus concepts were drawn from ancient Egyptian culture if I'm not mistaken.

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More Egyptian references:

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Here's some Greek/Roman reference from the set of AC that I just noticed.

 

Those walls and temple with humanoids climbing do look very Egyptian,Mayan and Greek.

Well the Engineers did come to Earth and taught humans alot of things like building temples etc.Weren't they?

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@Dark Nebula

Terribly fascinating!

I encourage everyone do add on to this discussion, the mythic resonance of the ALIEN franchise is a truly awesome subject to explore and dwell upon.

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Indeed i remember there was some other references from Ancient Cultures that are similar to the Space Jockey.  This could be just coincidence however..  but regardless when Prometheus picked up with the Space Jockey/Engineers being who Mankind interpreted as Ancient Gods from all Cultures then these references could now fit and even be explored upon.

There are a lot of similar themes in man ancient cultures which also include the Serpent/Dragon being depicted and the Eagle.

Here are some Mayan pieces that you could connect to the Space Jockey.

And this image next is similar to some Giger Work

I think you know the one, the Serpent with Xeno ish head in the chair that may inspired the Hammerpedes

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some Carvings taken from Mayan Gods, that have been recreated via Wood and Stone Carvings.

These are actual carvings made to depict ancient Mayan Gods, and i am sure you could make a Engineer Connection, and also maybe Sacrificial Cup that creates Life... and also look at the Hat/Helmet and other elements... very Xenomorph you would agree.

Yet these are just coincidence surely... but since Prometheus went the route it did all these Ancient things can now fit into context of actual Engineer and Xeno Tech references.

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Diving suit drawn by Hans Talhoffer back in the 15th century for the Thott manuscript

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Yeah its interest and fun that we can find Ancient things that we could fit into Prometheus Movie Plot ;)

You could interpret this image as being Engineers and Creation, or even the Race above the Engineers who created them and the Top.. well like the Star Map/Orrey Room LOL

I wander if we are getting a re-design on the Hierachy above the Engineers that may have elongated heads? 

Some of the Prometheus Concepts, well work done while the first drafts was being done did feature such designs with the Engineers.

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interesting, they're based off of Egyptian art

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The Engineer temple

Mayan temple

The head 

The African statue of Mussolini's head

Egyptian Sphinx

Humanoids on the steps of the temple

Victims of Pompeii

The rest of the ruins

And I could go on forever

 

 

 

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The works of Dali like shown above seem also to be an influence. Nice catch.

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Indeed Dark Nebula some good comparisons and the Steps at the Scene of Disaster and then the Mayan Temple is a good point and could be the steps to a very similar Temple.

I did a Topic Called Paradise that was to cover mainly the look of Paradise from not only its lush environments that are very Tropical Rain Forest meets more Wooded Land Forest like Endor lol...

In this Topic i also posted Mayan Temples that had now been partially covered within the Jungle and Vegetation and some of these are under so much Vegetation that many had gone years without being discovered.

To me the set photos showed we would uncover more about the Engineers Culture and Civilization or at least the ruins of it.

The statues due have that Greek look to them but i would assume our Engineer Statues will remain Bald.

And so this image that Facehuggers posted fits the bill very much for how that toppled and headless Statue would have looked and indeed also how the beings in that Scene of Disaster Looked.

I think this scene is interesting one, as some speculated its very Pompeii.... and so maybe people discover just the remains of Petrified Engineers that this Scene shows... i.e they are Frozen in time like the Pompeii ones .... they was due to hot ash etc.... and its a wander what would cause the same to those beings in Alien Covenant..

I however am on the side of the fence that wanders if this is a action shot, and not a still..  First of all if it was a still they would have be best to use props and not Actors/Actresses etc. But some of the positions in the other scenes could be hard to position standing still... but they could be Props still that are bolted to the ground.

However what would be the purpose of this scene unless it was something discovered by David or the Covenant Crew which then we have to wander about the Scale...  If these are Engineers then having Props with Humans walking near them would not work for the scale of the Engineers who was revised to 10ft for Prometheus but of course we only got 8ft Tops impression.

But if they are Props they could be made larger... but then looking at these beings and actual people on set (Production Crew) in some of the images... these beings are Human Height but maybe they could be a earlier kind of Human?

I think this is going to be a flash back scene myself, and i still hope it would feature Action in some way... another thing is if it was the remains of beings killed even within 10 years of the Covenant arriving never mind thousands of years ago, we have to ask what means would make them become preserved like statues?

If the movie is revolving around the Black Goo, this does not add up to a disaster that can leave bodies frozen solid for years if not thousands.

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@BigDave

Interesting hypothesizes! You raise many good points, especially with the "flashback disaster" scene.

Perhaps it isn't even a flashback at all, maybe David hacked into an engineer's dream sequence!

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this is a wild thread!  :D

 

 

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Hahaha!!! Indeed!  :)

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We have to think how a Flash Back could work..

It could have no reason but to try and Narrate Visually something important that happened to the Audience such as the Sacrificial Scene... it was there so latter when Shaw finds the DNA Match and then we can connect the Clues like Cave Paintings the Sacrificial Scene is then where we look back and Go.... Thats how we was created!

So it could be a scene like that...

Or it could be a sign set up from a Question...  Maybe Shaw asks, maybe one of the Covenant Crew asks.....  That David knows the answers a little from what he has studied or maybe seen as written reccord by the Engineers.

So they ask David, what does that writing say, or what happened here?

David would then start to tell them something... and then we go to the Flash Back as a Visual Narrative to support what David is saying.

Thats what i feel we would be in for.... but who knows.

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@BigDave

To add to what you said about the importance of this scene compared to the sacrifice scene in Prometheus...  It could be the opening scene, kind of mirroring the sacrifice scene in that it would be the first thing we see and could be relevant to a later point in the plot.  

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I wonder if they knew about these things when they designed the space jockey scene for Alien at least it seems interesting.

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Good points

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