ALIEN COVENANT: The Xenomorph

@ BigDave

The bottom two images of the neomorph are frighting and good looking.

I just love the design. :)

Movie fan:

I like the fact that the monster that you posted doesn't have eyes, it gets scarier that way.

"I just love the design. :)"

Indeed this is a fan art.... but to me it looks something we could imagine the grown up Baby one could turn out to be (one with Deacon Head not Baby-head one).

We cant say which of those leaked concepts get used... but on the wall we did have TWO Monsters in drawing form... one very close to a Xeno the other very close to the Deacon and the one Baby Alien leaked Prop.

The Baby looking ones as far as based off this

Are similar to the Fifield Concept..

Sorry for low res image...

I think looking at unused Fifield concepts and his infection and those Baby like Props i would conclude they would logically come about the same as Fifield infection.

Which to me means something Goo/Spore related infects a Early Stage Human Pregnancy.

After I studied the design, I developed a theory that the creature in the photo could actually be one of the covenant crew members.

Notice how the lump on the side of the head looks a little like an ear and the tongue is more human-like rather than the second mouth of an alien.

I really think this was one of the covenant crew members that got transformed by the black goo.

I think we have to remember that work is a fan based one and its not officially concept.. but it looks like maybe what we could see.

We all know so far this Cycle in the Franchise

1) Egg => Face Huger that infects its Host and leads to a Adult Alien down the line that has traits of its Host.

2) Prometheus shows us Black Goo+ Organism  = Hybrid. like Fifield and Hammerpedes.

3) Black Goo or one top part passed onto a Female that infects the Eggs produces something related to a Hybrid Face Huger thats part Human at Face Huger Stage.. this leads to more Human DNA Chest Buster the Deacon.

4) Now we have the Spores that infect the crew and cause the creation of a Organism... we have to remember this is only considered a Rumor at the moment.

But lets assume it sounds similar to a combination of effects that happened to Shaw and Fifield.... and indeed such Organism would also take on Hosts traits too.

My first experience with this epic story was aliens 2. I was 10 years old the movie just released I rode my bike to the movie theater bought a ticket to a good rated film and snuck in to the aliens film. from there I was forever changed. 

Couple of things, the aliens are not just killing machines as expressed in aliens 2 when ripley walks in to the nest and the queen looks up. she points the flame thrower up in the air pulls the trigger stips and poimts it at the nest and the queen makes the alien gaurds back down so tjere is signs of intelligent thought. Also in alien 4 ressurection when the 2 aliens sacrifice their buddy to break free. etc. 

David sees more in the life form then just perfect blend of robot dna and organics. there is thought and underatanding within the species. 

Now i have not yet seen talk about what happened to the good dr who left with david to find the engineers home planet and ask why. so really this film ties in the alien stories but what about all the other questions? who are the engineers? why did the one flip and go rogue? etc. there needs to be another film dealing with these questions. 

On a side note i want more preditor home world stuff . we got a glimpse from last avp movie and i want more!!!

Indeed Wes, the Xenomorph showed intelligence as well as primal instincts throughout the Alien Franchise.

"David sees more in the life form then just perfect blend of robot dna and organics. there is thought and underatanding within the species."

Could be.... depends what role he plays, as its not 100% Guaranteed he would create the Xenomorph...

But he would surely be playing a role in creating something related at the very least and at first he may see pride in his creation just like God did with Mankind, like a Mother/Father have with their Child and also most likely how Weyland was with David.

Your other Questions indeed i think these would be answered at some point and maybe Alien Covenant could help with those, but i wont go into detail much as its more a Topic for Engineers Post instead.

So I just read something very interesting. It concerns the original concepts for the Belugas. It said something about the Belugamorphs being an early organic prototype of the Alien, and the bio-mechanical one is a "weaponized" version made by the engineers. I'm assuming the mechanical bits come from the eggs being rooted to the metal floor of the Juggernauts. Anyway, I also read that the Belugas were planned to have the ability to squeeze through cracks and tight spaces, as they had very thin to no skeletons. Could this be what that 4chan leak was referring to when it talked about a new way the xenomorph (and beluga) gets around? I think it's looking more and more like the Belugamorphs will make their appearance in the film. However, PLEASE take this with a GINORMOUS grain of salt. 

I can't wait to see the Neo - I imagine that this is what a Xeno would look like if it burst out of Slenderman. 

Well Alien 426

Thats a decent assumption, we dont know how the Xeno was Bio-Mechanical,  the Black Goo seemed to pass on Xeno traits but lacked the Mechanical aspect, i had wondered if they was getting it from David etc in Prometheus before the movie came out and then AC, but its not my way i would like to do it.

I think they was ancient..

The Face Hugger and Eggs lack the Bio-Mechnoid look, the Alien in AC looks less Mechanical but this is where Ridley teases we would find out how come it was Bio-Mechanical and a Weapon.

I think the main connection all along as far as Aesthetics is the Xenomorph and the Derelict Ship, the Aesthetic of the Ships Tunnels and Construction is very similar to the Xenomorph Hive Construction.

Ridley has said the Derelict and Juggernaught are the same, they are related the Juggernaught is NEW and pristine and the Derelict old and rotting away, the Space Jockey and Engineer are the same too...

Now yes there are differences Aesthetically/size wise (ships and pilots) but we are to assume they are similar.

So your assumption Alien 426 is a likely possible explanation, that some event may have caused the Black Goo or Eggs or something to fuse with the Mechanical Aesthetic of the Engineers Ships and so the Ships inherent Biological Matter off the Eggs or Black Goo and the Eggs evolve to take on Synthetic Material off the ship.

This is logical to assume as they clearly look related, and i dont know say if a Ship Crashed and Spilled its Go and my some other component, say Plant Life that grew over the ship then made a recipe for the 3 elements to fuse and then start to grow.

This or similar could work....

I mean the Derelict if we look outside we see the landscape has been infected and very Giger Bio-Mechanical too..... maybe a Spillage of contaminated and mixed components that changed the Ship could also then spilled out and infected the landscape?

As far as the Organisms in AC being able to squash themselves to get around, yes i heard that rumor and well its taken a bit off the Organism that came from Holloway and how it got around... I covered this the other day in that in order for this to in anyway apply as far as the Holloway Chest Buster from Spaights Draft to when it grew latter would be if inside of a inner bone structure they had Muscle Structure like Mollusca Organisms

Then imagine if some of the Muscles then acted like a Penis (hey its Giger work after all) and a Flaccid Penis you could say is a Muscle like a Octopus or Squid Tentacle and what if these kinds of Muscles can be made more erect like a Penis.

You would then have the ability to have a support mechanism inside of a Organism that can be more solid and Bone-like that can then change to a more flexible and squishy state.

Biology like this could work as far as say having a Organism like say the Trilobite and its Legs that are like a Octopus and then if it can make the muscles in these become erect they could function as Bones and Stand up right and walk about.

If you catch my drift ;)

The other rumor about how they move about was like a Jack in the Box...

Now the only way i think this Biologically works is if there inner Mechanics as far as Muscle, Tendon or Bones are like Springs and so they can stretch and shrink like  a slinky?

The Source told me that the Organisms lower limbs are now redesigned to fit with the Queen Aesthetics and this is the design that would be used from now on and so no more limitations on Man in Suit and so similar proportions to a Man as far as Joints.   The Deacon was like this as it was a Hybrid.

Now the Aliens are different, and have legs like the Queens and they are to move about mainly on all fours and move like a Rat/Mouse but they can then stand up and move bi-pedal when they need to.

You can see what they mean in the Xenos in the King Xeno Statue.

If David has contaminated the whole planet with the goo(theory), you can imagine the hellish mutations the covenant crew are going to face.

Yes BigDave i feel david has been playing the typical mad scientist, 10 yrs is a lot of time experimenting and creating these nightmares. 

Man,

I just have this feeling from everything I am seeing that Ridley is going to throw a switch with us on David. I suspect he has been trying to be a creator versus just being a creation of man like most people trend to believe. However, I also believe that there is more to this Xeno backstory that can be explained by David's experimenting....The creature in the mural is a strong candidate for the genesis of this whole thing. When the smoke has settled there will be a lot of intrigue but It won't all involve David.

Indeed i always thought the Frescos was more a clue to what Originally leads to the Xenomorph and everything else connected.

The Mural was just the result that had achieved that they deemed Perfect or what they was aiming for. But then again it could be something that predates these.

Such is the ambiguity... one thing is for sure, they are all connected.

This is a beluga xenomorph not a adult neomorph the beluga xenomorph is the original form of the adult xenomorph and the xenomorphs you see in the first four movies are weaponized versions of the beluga xenomorphs modified by the engineers and the original facehuggers were called octo facehuggers and they were to appear in alien engineers the original story of Prometheus but they were scrapped and the neomorph is a xenomorph mutated by the black goo.

thanks for resurfacing this one, the enormous aliens thing has been nicely buried in recent times.  the recent shot of daniels in said cumbersome space suit in zero g cut with shower scene alien has me excited.  what RS distracting us from?  the engineer guys from hologram in prometheus were running from something shit scary and potentially enormous. deacon time.

[quote=DigDave]*Carmen Ejogo claimed that she and Katherine Waterston were being chased by Enormous Alien's (quite how big enormous is anyone's guess, but its safe to say at least a Xenomorph size but maybe no bigger than the Xenomorph Queen).[/quote]

This is interesting to me. Ejogo's character is in the room with the back burster and unless I missed something is confirmed as being killed by it, shortly after "birth", within the medbay as Daniels runs to arm herself.

As we have seen in the more recent trailers, and saw for a split second in the 1st, the young Neos are kind of dog size.

This said, what enormous alien was chasing her? Does this imply there is a standoff or battle with a possible endogenous species between spore infection and the return to the dropship? 

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