
clovenberg2
MemberOvomorphDecember 28, 2016Shaw is missing.
We see only 1 egg.
We see the dog tag / id neckless inside the cave where the egg probably is.
The Lifecycle in Alien is that if needed the xenomorph will capture you and start a process with your body that you turn into a egg.
Did David turn Shaw into a egg with the black goo?
BM I would say you were correct but since there was an imbellical cord I think it was just his mutated sperm affecting her previously inactive reproductive organs. If there were no imbellical cord I would say that he may have planted a stomach buster in her with larvae that hid in his semen after all if the hugger can lay an egg in your throat, spores can invade your ears and nostrils.... Surely Holloway could have "submitted" a larvae inside of Shaw while they were bumping uglies.but there was the imbellical cord so there is that but good concept though they could have easily went that route instead
Hmm. Interesting! In actual, real-life human biology, a female is born already carrying all of the eggs she will ever produce in her lifetime. The body doesn't have to make them, it just has to release them during ovulation. Who knows why Shaw thought she couldn't "create life". I sincerely doubt it was from lack of eggs. I strongly surmise that David is going to harvest Shaw's eggs for his own nefarious purposes, keeping her alive just to do so.
Regarding the umbilical cord... what's more interesting to me is that it was attached to what appeared to be a placenta, which would have to come from a uterus. Was that engineer a female? If not, possibly a hermaphrodite?
"here is the post from @jazzhands I think Shaw is going to be held hostage and forced to create eggs, die during the process, and be brought back to life in a an endless cycle via David's experiments. She will be the female version of Prometheus; punished for all eternity because she sought to bring knowledge to mankind."
I touched upon this HERE
But i will put one piece below...
*Shaw does not Technically Die
*Shaw only plays a Smaller Role but a important one as far as the Plot.
*Concept Work of a Humanoid connected to a HR Giger Bio-Mechanical Device/Machine or similar that looked like as if Giger had done the Superman 3 Robot Girl Scene.
*In context to Paradise Lost Poem... without Sin (i assume Satans Daughter) there would be no Xenomorph (Satans Daughter was a Humanoid/Serpent Hybrid who was constantly Pregnant with Serpentine Hounds of Hell who Guard the Gates of Hell, and daily her Entrails are ripped from the inside by the constant labor and birth of these foul creatures.
This is what a Source told me over 2 years ago, and i covered it on here over 2 year ago and so Yes maybe this is what we shall be shown.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Indeed just because Shaw could not have a Child does not mean she does not have Eggs, there are a number of things that affect fertility
As for how she got Pregnant, well there are 3 ways.
1) Holloways Sperm was infected and became Xeno-Sperm and this infected her Eggs.
2) The Goo was a Parasite and Holloway was basically used as a method to get the Parasitic Worms (Eye Worm) into Shaws Womb to infect a Egg, just how Sexually Transmitted Diseases can be passed on.
3) As above but the Parasite Worms do not infect a Egg, they instead just use her Womb to Incubate and her Womb is fooled to think this Parasite is a Embryo/Egg.
Number 2 would be the most convenient if David wishes to Re-Create the Deacon Experiment.
"Regarding the umbilical cord... what's more interesting to me is that it was attached to what appeared to be a placenta, which would have to come from a uterus. Was that engineer a female? If not, possibly a hermaphrodite?"
I have studied Prometheus in Depth, and this is ONE thing i never considered... so its a interesting idea, something to think about.
I assumed the reason for this was to Show us the Black Goo effects and so basically the Trilobite was a Human/Face Hugger Hybrid and so the Deacon would be a Human Hybrid too hence the Placenta..
But boy you have got me thinking now.. thats a interesting Catch... i have to maybe consider this now ;)
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Without going into the biology too much a woman does indeed have all the eggs she will ever have at birth (however some women do not have any eggs at all - FACT). Inferility can be as a result of a number of things but in most cases it's because the woman does not ovulate - this means the eggs never leave the ovary so are never in a position to be fertilised - Shaw stated that she could not create life (before she had sex with Holloway) not that she couldn't get pregnant & if you're a woman you know the difference.
However, having watched Prometheus again, when David tells her she's pregnant she says that's not possible and then impossible when he says she's 'about' 3 months - before it dawns on her what's happened. I think Big Dave has it almost right - the womb was tricked and no eggs were harmed in the making of the Trilobite - this was an implantation into a host.
however what really interested me was the 'placenta' break - I've seen Prometheus a number of times and on every occasion I've been horrified that all that poured back into Shaw's open wound (they also took care to show this) - what on earth would that do? She was stapled immediately and she was pumping herself full of pain killer. Did Shaw start to morph into something on the journey or perhaps become 'pregnant' again and had to help David re-attach his head to help her? Instead of focusing on David being Frankenstein (I've said this a number of times) maybe the monster was already created by Holloway!!!
Good point about some women not being born with eggs! I still don't think that was the case with Shaw, though; I mean I think she had eggs and was impregnated with Holloway's space cobra sperm. The fact that her offspring was delivered/shown inside an amniotic sac, and it was connected to Shaw via an umbilical cord would indicate that a pregnancy occurred. An implantation would not produce those conditions.
Regarding the amniotic fluid, if we are to assume that she was in fact pregnant, wouldn't Shaw's body produce it just like in a normal pregnancy? Although I believe that the fetus can impact the fluid levels by drinking it and urinating... so maybe she could've gotten contaminated that way via baby trilobite pee. Hmm. Great food for thought!
Bog Dave: The scenario you first mentioned two years ago is a nightmare! That would be brilliant if it is in the movie
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Indeed the one that by some was considered completely BS!!!!! That new Set Reports and Comments now seem to hint is actually the case ;)
This is a interesting Image...
Note in the background there are like EGGS
Back to Shaw and the Potential for the Trillobite, indeed the Parasitic Worms getting into the Womb and using it to incubate is one explanation.
The more common was is Holloways Mutated Sperm...
But i think its the other scenario that works best of both worlds where these Parasitic Worms indeed infect Shaws not functioning Eggs, this makes more sense, it also would explain the Embryonic Sack and why the Trillobite had Hairs and the Deacon had a lot of Human Traits, because Half of its Creation was from a Human Egg.
This method makes more sense as far as Plot for Alien Covenant as far as how David could create Eggs, if Shaws are used and also as far as if he was to Re-create the Trilobite Experiment then indeed the other Scenario where Holloway merely transmitted a Parasitic Eyeworm to Shaws Womb that infected her Egg...
Would give David a easy route to Re-create this without needing a Male at all, as David could find other ways to get the Goo into the Womb
The Source did say that in order to RE-CREATE IT (which i assume was the Xeno or Deacon) all you need is the Tools and Knowledge and David has both.
It would make sense that Re-creating the Trilobite would be the ideal Starting Point.
Otherwise if it was Holloways Infected Sperm, then it would leave David with the Question of what happens if the Black Goo directly infects a Egg instead.
Or what if Shaw is infected and becomes a Hybrid what would become of her Eggs and Womb then.. So indeed many possible ways for David to have a basis for Experiments.
And i do think its likely that Shaw has to be a Guinea Pig to some degree
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017