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ninXeno426

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In the Fire and Stone series,we learn that LV-223 has become over run By black goo,causing the moon to go through radical changes in it's climate.It's first discovered during the event of Aliens,roughly 90 years after the events of Prometheus.Of course in Alien Covenant,David and maybe Shaw have been there for an average of 10 years.The spores suggest some kind of black goo contamination much like in Fire and Stone.So what if David isn't the cause of all this?What if,like in Fire and Stone,the engineers used the black goo as a sort of teraformer and the planet eventually destroyed them,not David.What David finds is a planet that has already undergone drastic changes.Perhaps he's not the creator,but is just simply using what is already there.

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Yah, there's a youtube video explaining everything in Prometheus and one thing is that they were creating parasitic lifeforms with the black goo, but these creatures need a host... at the beggening of Prometheus we see an engineer drink the black goo... he was getting the planet ready for xenomorphasis. By creating life for the parasites to feed and thrive off of, they would do this with the black goo... thats why its so powerful. Not only can it create an extremely dangerous and perfect parasitic organism it can also create the food with it... wiping out planets... possibly even star systems.

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That's a fascinating angle.Fire and Stone showed of its creative power.

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Have to admit, that's a pretty intriguing concept. The story angle could do much worse...

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It's reasonable in my opinion.After all not to many believe David is responsible for whatever may have happened to the engineers.

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from what I understand the substance consumed at the beginning of Prometheus and the black goo are 2 different substances. they have very different effects on basically the same genetic structures. one dissolves and breaks down the engineer, the black goo morphs fifield. id like to see this theory though. paradise is an objective quality. to us the hell the engineers create on this planet is paradise to something else. if the synopsis is literal then its more likely the planet is what we would consider paradise and it is infact david who destroys it, as ridley has stated before, 'david brings death'.

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plus ridleys choice of words could be key. shaw remarks about the juggernaught taking off 'its carrying death' and ridley states that in AC 'david brings death'. one can assume he means the same substance that was on the juggernaught in Prometheus

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Good theory ali81.What ever the substance the engineer consumed was meant for creation.The black goo is for destruction.

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Created most def, i'm assuming the plant in its natural form is some how parasitic and attached itself to another plant and used it for nutrition, the black goo must have altered it's DNA instead of seeking out another plant it now seeks out Human or Animal host...if you look at all the creatures derived from the goo we have seen, they all seem to have a pale or see-through skin(even the Deacon we saw is a light blueish grey colour) and it looks like the neomorph will be be the result of the ear impregnation, my question is, why is the Xeno dark in colour?, because the engineers could also use a tan...know its a silly question but its always bothered me.

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Indeed on the palor.The Xenomorph initially supposed to be a lite color

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good theory fishy, I like the idea of it feeding off of other plant life and the goo transforming it into a ravenous S.O.B. it may have been a form of fungi which is what I got from the spores. maybe the spores themselves have been mutated into individual life forms which then seek out hosts when disturbed?

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Another good theory ali81.In fire and Stone someone pointed that the black goo seemed alive.

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yea I saw that xeno, def the way id like it to be

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I didn,t Know that @ninXeno426 wow...

@ali81 yeah, fully agree with that coz from what we have seen the spores only become active after the shell has been stepped on and broken... and im assuming they wouldn,t really mind the form of impregnation(Mouth Nose, Ear) as long as they can reach the chest area and start germinating.

 

 

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Highly recommended.It will described as if it couldn't make up it's as to what it was.

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@ninXeno426 wow i really need to get myself these fire and stone books Asap. Biological weapons that are "alive", just sounds like a disaster waiting to happen...

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fire and stone and the out of the shadows series r must gets fishy. and yes, as far as the spores will be concerned, every holes a goal lol

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I read them online fishtoes.If you'd like the site and proper reading order i'm more than happy the help 

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I tend to think the Engineers somehow accidentally created the spores, while David ended up creating the eggs that contain the facehugger (by experimenting with the spores). Neither evolutionary line would be completely indigenous to the planet, yet each of them hybridizes itself with indigenous lifeforms.

In my perspective, the eggs came about sometime after the Engineers were exposed to the spores.  Daniels is a gardener type, so she may know about hybrid theories of evolution (or be able to see stuff like White-Hybrid King types coming).

Many of the early hominid lines were capable of interbreeding. The ability/inability for parallel evolutionary lines and hybrids to interbreed may be an important part of Dr. Shaw's thesis. The Company would steal Dr. Shaw's and Holloway's previous research to begin forming their own hypotheses about stuff.   

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interesting theory. so u believe that david is on the derelict at some point?

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Not sure about the Derelict from the original film, but yeah, I think he was at least involved in the one we see on this planet.

It's complicated.  I'm not too sure if David himself boarded that ship, but I believe there's a way that this could in fact be LV-426 before the environment undergoes a very sudden and drastic change.  The Engineer remains are found in a "miraculous state of preservation," and too much radiocarbon has been replaced by other elements, causing it to appear as if the fossilized/mummified remains are older than they actually are.  A few of the Engineers would have been flash petrified and are hiding out there in the Stone because of what the Fire does.  It would tie into how black goo causes the environment to rapidly change in the Fire and Stone comics. 

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