ALIEN vs all other ALIEN movies

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Drake

MemberFacehuggerMarch 06, 2017

I love the fact that all of us are such hardcore ALIEN fans that we are willing to disregard 4+ movies as non-canon. Most of us would say that ALIENS is canon but there seems to be some debate about that as well. I just think it is very interesting and comical that all of us have so much devotion and admiration to the first film that's so much of the work was created outside of the first film is viewed as a giant waste of time. Requiem was disregarded by every single person who watched it let alone every Alien fan. Alien 3 could have been a great film but obviously was very conflicted so many of us would love to believe that it was simply a dream. Resurrection was produced so poorly that comes across as embarrassing. Prometheus certainly had quite a bit of idiot plot which should not have been present in a Ridley Scott film but otherwise was enjoyed by most of us. Here's hoping that Alien Covenant does not disappoint and becomes permanent canon!

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March 08, 2017

@Batchpool, I have always thought the same about there being more of a story that could have been told in relation to the LV-426 colonists. This could have produced a spin off story that became canon. That said, part of me likes the fact that it is left to the imagination, like, for example, in relation to the facehugger specimens, "Marachuk, John J", Newt's den, the "last stand", the small arms fire, the acid burns, the half eaten donut, the rest of the Jorden family, that likely last other colonist that Dietrich finds etc.

The other part of me wants that story fleshed out. River of Pain has attempted to do this and there are some good ideas there but it's not entirely satisfying.

We're left therefore with, in my opinion (or what I choose to believe lol) the story of Ripley, her character building and ultimate sacrifice through the first 3 movies whilst also witnessing the evolution of the derelict's cargo through the original Kane-alien, the hive that is created in Aliens from Russ Jorden and other colonists and then, finally, the purely murderous alien in Alien3 which displays entirely different characteristics than its predecessors in Alien and Aliens.

I think that it's clear that Alien Covenant will embrace what Prometheus started in providing us with more evolutionary examples geared towards a canonical and extremely complex lifecycle for the alien entity which provides for so many variables in how the beast presents depending on host, genetic make up, environmental factors etc all of which have been utilised in the Aliens series to date to show a different kind of alien (although, for the record, I don't care for anything in the series beyond Alien, Aliens and Alien3). I can't wait to see the effect and outcome of David's likely continued input into the creation/evolution of science-fiction's greatest ever concept. The countdown says 75 days to go, we're not gonna last 75 hours (couldn't wait until 17 days!).

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March 08, 2017

The fall of Hadley's Hope is detailed in the novel River of Pain - but even that missed some great opportunities.