Alien Franchise Rule Book: for Members by Members
dk
MemberTrilobiteMar-31-2017 1:36 PM“The Scified Alien Covenant Unified Rule Book for Future Movies in the Alien Franchise”
I ran this thread from 23-30 March. I may have edited to maintain flow so I hope it somewhat orderly.
I would first like to thank contributors alphabetically: Apex_Predator, BigDave,, Blackwinter-witch , chadsbrothermatt, Dk, Grinning & Dropping Linen, IRaptus, LV226, ninXeno426, and Parkerparrot
Here is the original link: http://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/43788
Rules in no particular order:
- to have characters written and developed well with no wishy washy whimsical religious zealots.
- Do not put too much emphasis on technology like holograms and such.
- No romance whatsoever in any alien movie.
- No stupid characters such as fifield and milburn (posted X 2)
- No time travel (mentioned X 4)
- Put Chris and BigDave on the pay roll as consultants/writers with possible cameos. (Dave chose a mutated Jabba)
- No more than 3 rewrites of the script. Pick an idea, flesh it out, and make the best version of that idea possible rather than trying to incorporate old versions into some new vision by some new writer. (mentioned X 2)
- there is no place for corny over the top cheesy/corny dialog and sequences in this film universe (aka anything similar to Resurrection would be banned)
- No predators in the alien film universe, they are both cool but tonally too different to share a film and it be worthy of either,,save that stuff for the comic books (mentioned X 2)
- not everything has to be explained ,keep some mystery in this universe so we have something our minds can run wild with (mentioned X 2)
- NEVER turn it into an Avengers where our protaginists are just taking our hordes after hordes, it would be silly....even though Aliens went with the action/war vibe it still kept some of the bleak tone and impending doom and terror
- Ripley is done, done done never again shoehorn her into a sequel or prequel
- Keep the main focus on morphing and mutating as the genesis of the species but still allow an occasional queen ...there is just more ghastly horror to play with when it comes to mutation, but the queen IMO is limited, she looks good our hero fights her thats it, having her on the screen dosnt really open up any storytelling doors for us other than a cool action scene
- Im fine with tech but make it look used or serviceable, if its too "bright and shiny" it takes away the tone and feel of the movie
- I do not ever want to see Weyland Yutani weaponize the xenomorph.If you want to know why,just play Colonial Marines.Enough said
- R rating only (mentioned X 2)
- No main character kids
- Defined chest-burster gestation period(s). To paraphrase, consistent time lines yet allow some wiggle room for hosts with mentioned physical conditions that may explain gestation time variations.
- Xenos not used as cannon-fodder that run around in open spaces, or broad daylight; Ambush/stalking predator only.
- No quotes from Ripley as a fanboy nod to her like 'that's not exactly out of the manual' or 'get away from her, you bitch'.
- Stay true to H.R Giger and his nightmareish world and design.
- No comedy. (Dark humor is OK here and there but not to the extent of Resurrection)
- Never, ever again a newborn or anything that resembles that abomination. (I am fine with neomorphs though..) (mentioned X 2)
- No "up in the blue, infantile dopehead" ideas in scripts or drafts like wooden planets ur sutch. Alien worlds yes, but please not stupid.
- No fan boy service other then set pieces and or details about the alien universe that serves to expand the world
- Never 100% CGI, always a mix of practical effects
- Dont rely on Ripley storyline
- Don’t have more than 2 years between movies.
- I just hope they have it all planned out A-Z even if we dont see every part of A-Z as long as they know what a A-Z would be and stick to things that wont contradict it, and so also to tidy up the mess that has been left before.
- Projectile weapons preferred, yet allow for Laser-based weapons as they are making steady progress with them in the real world
- NO stupid-looking weapons like the blue and orange (present-day Target-match pistols) weapons seen in PROMETHEUS. They looked like kid's toys.
- NO MORE FLAMETHROWERS!! At least not pre-assembled ones in the armory/ready-for-use ones like we saw in PROMETHEUS. It is the absolute height of mindless and suicidal stupidity to fire one aboard a starship, they're cliche`, have no real practical use aside from menacing an Alien, and the last thing you want is an alien running amok, on fire, acid bleeding from multiple and increasing places where it's skin has burned through/sloughed off, and setting even more of the ship on fire and burning holes in the ship all along its path.
- Do NOT even TRY to 'Star Trek It Up'...this is the ALIENverse, it has its own distinct feel, flavor and mien. There is NO Central Monolithic Unchallengeable Federation of Planets as The Prime Authority...and there NEVER will be. There are NO Government starships out 'patrolling the sector', and when you're between star systems, you're on your own.
- Characters should act and inter-relate like people do in reality, not by way of artificial/idealized 'Niceness'. Watch ALIEN for some great scenes between Ripley and Parker and their friction-points in personality
- People drink beer, some likely carry whisky/liquor flasks, they smoke, and have pin-ups all over the place. These are people, not Idealized Human Federation Citizens
ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianApr-01-2017 1:47 AMI like Newt too,that's why I was initially in defense of rule 17.But I feel it is now past,we don't need to say it again.Hell AVP:Reqiuem attempted it and did anyone actually care about that kid?
Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for
dk
MemberTrilobiteApr-01-2017 1:52 AMNewt said that it wouldn't make any difference but the crew did make the difference. I don't think she was talking about the WY long game either- she couldn't have conceptualized that- drops mic. LOL!
ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianApr-01-2017 1:56 AMLOL!!!
Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for
Parkerparrot
MemberFacehuggerApr-01-2017 3:43 AMThe prosecutor looks up from behind the piles of evidence on his desk. Adjusting his glasses, he looks around the room, nodding at the jury, clearing his throat and adresses the judge;
-Your honor! The jury and the court has to hold in mind rule number 21. That said, let's look at the evidence. The people, represented by the prosecutor, are aware of Resurection beeing cannon. BUT, the rule 21, beeing a GOLDEN rule, overtrumps that fact. Therefore, the Newborn is, and should be, considered an abonination wich has no place in this awesome universe. Thank You, Your honor.
"Bees have hives, man"
Parkerparrot
MemberFacehuggerApr-01-2017 3:51 AMI just want to add that this is a truly great thread, and many thanks for including me, dk.
"Bees have hives, man"
dk
MemberTrilobiteApr-01-2017 10:43 AMMurmors sweep over the court room after Parkerparrot's strict adherence to the rule book. A Vulcan is observed in the back of the room. His right eye brow raises.
ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianApr-01-2017 10:50 AMStands up in outrage to Parkerparrots suggestion*I OBJECTION YOUR HONOR
Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for
dk
MemberTrilobiteApr-01-2017 10:58 AMThat begs the question: can a rule be changed or include a new rule that is contradictory to an established rule?
Parkerparrot
MemberFacehuggerApr-01-2017 11:01 AMHa ha ha!!!
Order in the courtroom, please!!!! The judge calls out! Guard! Could You please escort the gentleman in the back with the funny pointy ears out of my courtroom!
"Bees have hives, man"
ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianApr-01-2017 11:04 AMBreaks lose and goes after Parkerparrot*
Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for
dk
MemberTrilobiteApr-01-2017 11:07 AMThe Vulcan stands and straightens his shirt. "Your honor, I was acknowledging an impressive display of logic so I don't understand the request to have me removed with guards."
Parkerparrot
MemberFacehuggerApr-01-2017 11:08 AM@Ninxeno
Aouch! That is one heavy lawbook! It hurts!!!
"Bees have hives, man"
Parkerparrot
MemberFacehuggerApr-01-2017 11:11 AM@dk
Oh, big missunderstanding! You may remain in the room, sir! Guard! neglect that order!
"Bees have hives, man"
BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-01-2017 11:14 AMLOL
OMG!
This is definitely a thread i best wait to when i am back to the land of the normal and not land of the Dead (or Brain Dead in my case ).... at least for a Month... that is
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianApr-01-2017 11:17 AMTakes the judges gavel but is quickly taken down by the security guards and is hauled of unconscious and in hand cuffs*
Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for
dk
MemberTrilobiteApr-01-2017 11:20 AMUnderstood BigDave. We have three issues to vote on so we can either consider a non vote as siding with the plaintiffs or tally votes based on 8 members in your absence. Chris would have to intervene in the event of a tie. Get well soon.
BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-01-2017 11:22 AMMaybe one Addition to the Rulebook may have to be Keep Ridley and Logan away from the Franchise LOL
I do hope they do have their own Rule-book and stick to it, as i see a lot of stuff seems like they making it up as they go along..
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Parkerparrot
MemberFacehuggerApr-01-2017 11:29 AM@ BigDave
Sorry to hear that You're not well. Get better soon!
"Bees have hives, man"
ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianApr-01-2017 11:34 AMIs brought back out into the courtroom,bloody tissues in his nose,and is sat in a corner until he behaves,Scowls at Parkerparrakeet >:( lol
Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for
Parkerparrot
MemberFacehuggerApr-01-2017 11:39 AMninxeno!
Right now my family is wondering why I'm laughing out loud!!!
"Bees have hives, man"
dk
MemberTrilobiteApr-01-2017 11:39 AMAt any rate, the plaintiffs' grievances need to be addressed. I will need to recount the votes thus far and compile again. I shall keep these issues uppermost in my mind while I step away to make a crock pot meal for tonight.
ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianApr-01-2017 11:41 AMLol same here Parkerparrot
Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for
Parkerparrot
MemberFacehuggerApr-01-2017 11:43 AM@dk
We await the verdict with great suspense!
"Bees have hives, man"
Starlogger
MemberChestbursterApr-01-2017 1:21 PM@Lone I agree. I am going to call this absolutely invalid, considering we were not involved. (Although I do agree with the majority of the rules ;) )
@Neo sorry, but that stupid "Newborn" should've never been "born" , lol lol lol ...mwaa ha ha ha ha haaaa.... AND it deserved the painful, complete suction death that it received (even though it should never have been there in the first place). In fact, "Ripley" looked horrible in that whole movie, too.
I.Raptus
MemberPraetorianApr-01-2017 2:34 PMGorn seconds motion for a re-count.
Amendment: Perhaps Newborn can exist within the rules as a sub-rule 21a. As it is a foolishly human genetically engineered mutation it is technically not a Xeno anyway. It highlights that mere peasant humans should not meddle in what is already awesome and leave it to the gods (Giger) to be the creator.
Neomorph
MemberChestbursterApr-01-2017 2:35 PM*Gets back to the courtroom after a 5 minute break*
Holy f*** what happened here.....
*Witnesses chairs thrown about, torn pieces of clothing scattered around the floor, Lone's shoes*
ninXeno426 you took one for me, I appreciate that. I would totally do the same.
ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianApr-01-2017 2:56 PMGives Neomorph a thumbs up while still cuffed,mumbles with a taped shut mouth*No Problem buddy*Then is clocked by the security guard,reminded he's not behaving l*
Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for
dk
MemberTrilobiteApr-01-2017 3:18 PMFellow Members and the distinguished N9, thank you for indulging my crock pot preparations absence. I am happy to report that things are underway and proceeding as planned. Now down to the business at hand.
*surveys the court room. Nin’s nose has stopped bleeding and papers and documents litter the floor. The Vulcan , sitting next to a dog faced boy, stoically looks on. Dk observes a small red triangular light pattern on his chest* Apex Predator, please shut off that thing. Thank you.
Unfortunately, BigDave is on medical leave at this time and we wish him a speedy recovery. He did report today and suggested that his condition prevents him from exercising judgment at the level he would like. Therefore, we will count 8 votes. Members who did not make an appearance or did not address a specific issue will count as votes in favor of the plaintiff. I have scrubbed the pages and have determined the following. I hope we reach an amicable conclusion. After this step, Chris will have the final say.
Blackwinter Witch, Lone and Neomorph, please rise.
Lone, your proposal to include a feline on board passed 7 to 1. I would respectfully suggest a provision having the pet (a character) should have a purpose in the movie and establish that purpose by being conspicuously observed performing it at least once in the movie.
Neomorph, this is a bit complicated. First, your proposal passed 6 to 2. Rule 23 does not deny Newborn Suckaoutwindowsky (snicker) is art or canon. I interpret the spirit of the rule to not have NS or anything looking like it appear again. That does not mean other hybrids cannot happen in the future- indeed, we have seen different types of creatures in Prometheus and will see different ones this May.
Blackwinter Witch, your proposals’ outcomes are as follows:
1 (allowing weaponized lasers) 8 yay
1a (no weapons that look like girly man toys) PASS by default
2 (Get rid of flame throwers) 5 yay, 3 nay PASS
3 (Don’t try to emulate Star Trek)8 yay PASS by default (The Vulcan’s ears turn red)
4 (realistic acting) 8 yay by default
5 (human vices) 8 yay by default
CHRIS- would you review and approve/disapprove the results please?
Thank you everyone. *leaves for a beer and smoke break*