Alien Franchise Rule Book: for Members by Members

Parkerparrakeet and I uh....Had a "disagreement"Over the newborn alien*Looks around wearily for Parkerparrot*And the Vulcan,no idea,he hasn't said a damn thing that pointy eared green blooded bastard.

LOL I can only see pages one two and five of this forum now,i think I may have missed a comment or two back their lol

Oh, you mean that entity trapped in Sha Ka Re or what it was called... Aren't the most of the sentient races in your universe supposed to be "created" too, by the... what was their name... Ah the Precursors.

Sir, I sense deflection. I merely stated facts but I did not write the story nor did I claim to have. I am ultimately a creation of Gene Roddenberry. I will leave now and leave you humans to carry on in your barbaric manner as evidenced in this room.

As you wish *raises his hand for a vulcan salute* Dif-tor heh smusma.

*The Vulcan returns the salute* Th'i-oxalra ; Sochya eh dif.

dk

Will do and Thank-you!! I'll do a thorough back-track to ensure I have all the information RE; my suggestions and collate then post them here in the thread.

ALIEN: Manticore is going to be Digital with a print-on-demand option also. Then folks can have a real book, but there will be no wasted paper or trees regarding unsold copies. IF FOX Licenses it/Canonizes it, I'll do what I can to keep the price as reasonable as possible.

If they don't, then I'll publish it as 'Fan Fiction' and it'll be available without cost/price.

Just to say, in my works, Humanity will NEVER succeed in taming/harnessing/weaponizing the Alien. Some folks will TRY, but no way will I ever degrade the Alien to the status of one of Humanity's playthings.

dk

Here's the original post of my suggestions. I decided to keep them full length so you can properly decide how best to edit/distill them down.

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1; Projectile weapons preferred, yet allow for Laser-based weapons as they are making steady progress with them in the real world.

1a; NO stupid-looking weapons like the blue and orange (present-day Target-match pistols) weapons seen in PROMETHEUS. They looked like kid's toys.

2; NO MORE FLAMETHROWERS!! At least not pre-assembled ones in the armory/ready-for-use ones like we saw in PROMETHEUS. It is the absolute height of mindless and suicidal stupidity to fire one aboard a starship, they're cliche`, have no real practical use aside from menacing an Alien, and the last thing you want is an alien running amok, on fire, acid bleeding from multiple and increasing places where it's skin has burned through/sloughed off, and setting even more of the ship on fire and burning holes in the ship all along it's path.

3; Do NOT even TRY to 'Star Trek It Up'...this is the ALIENverse, it has it's own distinct feel, flavour and mien. There is NO Central Monolithic Unchallengeable Federation of Planets as The Prime Authority...and there NEVER will be. There are NO Government starships out 'patrolling the sector', and when you're between star systems, you're on your own.

4; Characters should act and inter-relate like people do in reality, not by way of artificial/idealized 'Niceness'. Watch ALIEN for some great scenes between Ripley and Parker and their friction-points in personality.

5; People drink beer, some likely carry whisky/liquor flasks, they smoke, and have pin-ups all over the place. These are people, not Idealized Human Federation Citizens.

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BWW- done. OP updated.

Oh yeah- now it is the Trilobite 10 or T10.

Do I need the repost my rule?

nin- this is new territory. The original post ran for a week and those became automatic rules- it rewarded participation. After the fact, additional rules had to go through a vetting process to be approved to amend the list. I suppose the question becomes 'can a contributor add rules at will or should they be vetted by the T10'? Personally I like the idea of vetting even though it is a tedious process. I would like to hear from the T10 before continuing. I also think care should be taken that as the list grows, it may be more difficult to add rules that don't conflict with established rules.

I second the vetting 

All right T10- we have a new issue to address. BigDave is on medical leave so that leaves the other 9. So far, the votes are 2/9 in favor of having contributors go through the vetting process to add rules.

NinXeno426- what should be the suspense day and time?

dk

Just saw the amended Rules, and again TY!! :)

I also support the Vetting process, it might be tedious, but it will keep things from getting cluttered.

I'd say April 7,time about 11:59 A.M. Pacific standard daylight time.What say you?

BWW- welcome aboard- you actually had to work for it!

OK, 07 April no later than 11:59 AM. As stated in the past, T10 input after the suspense will be ignored and considered in favor of the proposal.

We are at 3/9 in favor of vetting rules, be it contributors or members.

We are 5 pages into this and that may seem daunting to some members. We may have to consider making a new thread at some point to encourage participation. I thought about a sticky, but I ignore those and wonder if others might- just a thought.

dk

TY! and I have never had any trouble working/earning my way along. Also, it was quite enjoyable discussing points and such while making my case and backing up my points. :)

Sticky...yes, people do tend to ignore them, but they are useful even despite that. I think the trick is not to have too many stickies, and one sticky isn't going to intimidate/daunt people.

The flame thrower rule- that was the closest call. Looking back at the thread and who did/did not participate, that could have been a tie requiring Chris to intervene.

Black Winter Witch:After carefully reading reading your posts regarding the flamethrower,I am now officially in favor of the rule.While I think they will probably always be there,you raise some fine points regarding safety issues on board a star ship 

The flame thrower was good for Isolation, but they were a stretch for the movies. The torch in the Aliens final battle was believable since it was a tool but a flame thrower is akin to the exploding barrels carelessly lying about in games for players to shoot. I am so glad that rule passed- and fair and square. Haters can scrub the thread for proof! 

Yeah the flamethrower was (excuse the pun) a hotly-contested issue. :D I think it all comes down to Cobbled-together/field-expedient units vs the Factory-fresh one we saw in PROMETHEUS. That clean,crisp and shining-new flamethrower just really struck the wrong chord.

Flamethrowers aboard a ship or any sealed environment pose some nasty problems. I picked hubby's brain for alternates, and he came up with a Liquid Nitrogen thrower/sprayer. He did point out that in it's own way it's actually MORE dangerous than a flamethrower but imposes no smoke/toxic fumes from burning upholstery and assorted other interior fittings, and the Nitrogen can be tapped from the atmo tanks. It also has the advantage of super-cooling/freezing any acid spill, which would be helpful in minimizing coincidental/collateral damages.

In any manner, trying to kill an Alien aboard a ship is going to be extremely problematic no matter what one tries as a weapon. Which is part of the beast's charm, after all. :D

That's why Gordon Carrol suggested acid for blood,so they couldn't kill it onboard the Nostromo

That one suggestion, yeah, a genius-moment and gave us such a uniquely problematic enemy :)

BWW-

Two  part comment

1. I am a fan of Myth Busters and have a short excerpt about flame throwers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHB3JuID-rs

2. I read the article about pigs having human DNA added to them regarding organ transplants etc. That seems to bring up a question IDK that has been discussed: If a pig has human DNA, would it not grant "human" rights to said creatures? This might even be a BigDave question. In any case, it could make for an interesting story or movie. If you feel like it, you might consider posting a thread about it?

dk

Cool vid, ty for showing it to us! Point I just realized, the ones seen in ALIEN and PROMETHEUS (unsure about ALIENS) seem to be short-range, compressed-gas 'Flamers', instead of the flame-thrower using a liquid fuel. Either way, they're a weapon of last resort aboard a starship I think can be said.

The backstory about the non-Human crewmember does address the points about Human Rights. I'll be happy to post a thread about it!! TY for asking!!

Blackwinter-witch

Thanks!

I always thought that part of good scifi wasn't necessarily tech but ultimately about the human condition. Give us a heads up when your book is close to completion. I would purchase with or without FOX anointing.

dk

Thank-You very much for your words!! They mean a lot, more than I can say, to be honest!I'm very glad to hear your desire to read my works!

I agree about the examination of the 'Human Condition' in sci-fi, especially when in the context of such a universe as ALIEN, where it is full of all manner of Darkness and Terrible Truths.

IF Fox annoints it, great. BUT if not, well this is mainly for the Fanbase, people like myself, yourself, and our fellow forum members here. So, one way or another, it will be published.

The Rough-raw is done, now it's time for me to do first-round Editing/continuity-checking and finish hammering the Epilogue into a better shape. It's coming along pretty well I'd say, it'd be quicker if I could devote full-time to it, but we cannot have everything we wish for in life :)

Don't sweat it being rough and raw BlackWinter Witch.I've been donating a story here since January and it's far from perfect,but I'm happy to share it.Which reminds me I haven't updated it in a while,I oughta get back to it sooner rather than later.Just been so busy 

Blackwinter-witch- I still watch Twilight Zone which is considered scifi and tons of those episodes are about the human condition- space age or present and sometimes have no amount of visions of the future and such. At the end of the day, it grabs the viewer/watcher and makes him/her think if that makes sense. It hopefully shakes one out of his/her comfort zone.