The thing with the A.I.

It already is a form of slavery/conditioning. Just look at people staring at their phones.

He he Right, the phone zombies. XD Forgot bout those.

I think BD posted some videos about some robtics research and the AI was pretty impressive. I can't find the videos.

A.I. as seen in many franchises, will either be a Wonder, and allow Humanity a partnership that will see us ascend to undreamt of heights.

Or, it will be END of Human existence, period.

The movie about A.I. that always impressed me the most was 'Demonseed', where the Proteus (The A.I.) was 'looking at the stars' and Humans close to the project got worried.
Then when they went to it to have an undersea mining project developed, he declared it 'Insane' due to the destruction it would cause to the region and life that existed there.

The question of A.I. we have to address is 'how are we going to start this relationship with a new species?'. It's up to us, and how we treat it will determine at least partly, how it will treat us in-kind.

Yeah, Proteus. Couldn't remember the name. Didn't it create life in the end? 

AI may see ordinary human behavior as erratic, inefficient and un needed over all. It could vary on an individual basis though.

Tiwaz

It created a VERY specific Human body for itself that looked identical to the deceased main character's child.

dk

True, but it'd also have access to all the information about why Humans act the way we do, thus, all of that would actually make 'sense' to an A.I..

For some reason I had to think of HAL, driven mad by conflicting directives given by humans. Reminds me kinda of David.

I have to try and remember what i posted DK ;)

I think the recent ones i remember was mainly about them looking more Advanced but in no way are they any closer to being Human lol as far as a Threat.

Human like Robots... well not so

Very Related to David 8 LOL you will get it

Indeed however Stephen Hawking does believe that AI is the greatest threat to Mankind and what is most likely to be the end of our species.

He of course is talking about a very future event provided AI gets very Advanced, and indeed if AI got as Advanced as Even Walter, this would be a threat once the Program has been changed, and Safeguards off and God help us if Androids become as Self Aware and Sentient as David 8

Ha Ha Real Ghost in a Shell

We don't fully understand how the brain actually works and yet we want to replicate it.

We are highly advanced machines ourselves. No matter how they'll be made, these robots will be living creatures and some will even be human. If they become identical to us, they will also be equal to us.

As with every technology, artificial intelligence will become more and more affordable and accessible. Everyone will have his own AI. No law will stop any individual with tampering with their AI. Everyday a smart ass will break the "laws of robotics" in his basement.

Humans have an obsession with trying to weaponize everything they can get their hands on. Not sending real troops to the battlefield is too tempting. Your government will make full use of AI regardless of how you feel about it. They always find ways to get what they want.

Let me remind you that the government is currently breaking the law. Seems people have no interest in basic human rights, that's why massive spying agencies do whatever they want.

We people make things because we can, we don't care about the bigger picture. AI will destroy the value of human life, destroy what brings people together. Why trying to date anyone when you can manufacture the perfect companion?

We are not responsible beings, our logic is flawed and we are imperfect.

I personally think that any civilization reaching a certain point of advancement is bound to self destruct (wonder why there's no aliens?). AI is a portal to human extinction, they will surpass us in every way so how could we possibly beat them?

You want your own Walter? so do I. But remember, buying a Walter is buying death for your grand grand children :D

This is a short on Topic One

I do think we are about 20-30 years from something a bit more advanced to what i put in those previous videos in the other Topic... I think we would get something between those Videos and Ex-Machina in 20-30 years as far as AI goes.

As far as how realistic again i think a half way point.

I would think we would create at least something between a Data from Star Trek and Walter in 40-50 years.

And i could see us having Robots like David/Walter as far as appearance by the year 2100 for certain.

@Edgy Name

Fantastic Post ;)

"Not sending real troops to the battlefield is too tempting."

Linked a Video to that comment ;)

Indeed that was the intention of the Robot in that Video and i actually think we could now 100% Produce one of these, or many at quite a cost effective Price, as far as Military goes.

Even if they are Remote Controlled i think we have the Technology to do this now.. that was Sci-Fi about 30 years ago.

Sadly it would not be worthwhile unless its for Hostage Situations or similar, as on the Battle Field Sadly the Expensive compared to use would not be worth it, as even a David 8 could be wasted by a IED or a RPG, a Grenade or Heavy Machine Gun Fire...

Although a David 8 would be more agile and blend in more easier...

Things like ED209, Mech-suits are all things i think we are not far off being able to do, or actually able to do should the Worlds Best start to work on them... but for Military use their cost compared to use its not worth it.

And more smaller Aerial Drones will still be the Future of Military Robotics...

@dk you are so right. The "Phone Zombies" are taking over the universe, and are causing destruction in their cars when they can't look away.

@BigDave

Thanks for the compliment, also that video was hilarious!

I agree that right now it's too expensive for large military use but there's no doubt the technology will become more advanced and affordable.

It always starts small, as David would say.

Like AI physically indistinguishable from a person, it will probably take decades and I could be dead and buried before that happens.

an A.I. needs not be a 'Walter' to be dangerous...remember V.I.K.I in 'I, Robot' and how she 're-interpretted' the Three-Laws?
She had NO intention of killing Humanity, but even Protection can be taken too far and become harmful.

Sometimes the threat isn't a 'Terminator' but a 'Mother Hen'.

And frankly, if the A.I.'s think they have a chance of taking the enslavement of Humanity away from Cats....lotsa luck, Skynet. :D
Hmmm...maybe I should shoot 'Roombanator'...it (an A.I. Roomba) comes back in time and is followed through time by a Cat, from the future where the War is A.I. vs Cats and the prize is Humanity. ;)

Maybe an AI wouldn’t be out to exterminate us, but figuring it knew everything about us, it might end up enslaving us to protect us from ourselves as it would eventually see we can be pretty destructive. The kicker is that since AI can make life better for us, we will have incrementally welcomed the enslavement. There’s a cheery thought.

dk

Yeah, A.I.  is a sobering thought on many levels...most folks think 'terminator' when it'll be more like 'VIKI' from 'I, Robot'.

The Second Renaissance is how I could see it happening:

Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0K6Cb1ZoG4

Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNiO2sTe2wo

dk

Yeah, that is one direction it could take...and if Humanity thinks it's feasible to fight machines, it's not. It takes a Human, MINIMUM, 7 years to be 'combat ready', as seen by child-soldiers in history and modern-world.
Machines come off an assembly-line dozens or hundreds at a time. Machines have perfect memories, learn stuff quicker (in theory) do not suffer disease or such.
In the end, Humanity loses.