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BigDave
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^^^^ Ha Ha Long live the Walter Morph.... indeed we could wonder if this is the eventual outcome..

Oram does come across a bit naive like Shaw, he appears to be a combination of Shaw, Milburn and Weyland in one Package

@Roger55, so who deals Jacob the Kiss ;)

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I dont think Oram is a bad guy per se, although they defintely laid the ground work for is possible resentment for Franco's character and everyone else. I would call his reaction in the last supper hostility but it is definitely resentment and he definitely showed frustration at not being seen or heard so to speak. 

He could very well kill the captain (Franco's character) to give himself the voice and attention its clear he desires, but i think that he is just frustrated and he over compensates, much like a new manager on the job site, trying to show they are the new boss and this leads him to make very bad decisions to the detriment of his crew. I feel without the unfortunate (reported) death of Franco's character perhaps they wouldn't have been put in harms way and we wouldn't have the Alien Covenant we will get.

Frustration, resentment and the desire for attention and respect are the driving forces of his downfall and by extension probably most of the crew of the Covenant is my guess 

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Maybe there is some behind the scenes stuff.  Linking MUTHUR, Walter/David, and Oram could be a company plant like Burke.  Take out the captain assume his role and then gets facehugged which would be a fitting death.

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Maybe indeed ;)

We dont know what role the Computer will take, Ridley was a Fan of Space 2001 and Hal, and we see David has some pretty disturbing ideas and Agenda... but who knows maybe Ridley Scott could show us this ships MUTHUR is just like Hal.

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I get the sense MUTHUR is in fact somewhat similar to Hal, and that we can't trust MUTHUR.  If he's still around, then FATHER might have arranged to have Daniels' husband killed as well (he also may have not approved of the coupling).

Look how easily Branson gets sick.  Does the company really want a human with such a weak immune system to have his genetics carried forward?  Maybe he's not right for Daniels; MUTHURs can be overprotective.  Oram wouldn't understand his role in what MUTHUR and Walter cooked up, although he could play a role in their plans anyway.  Initially, Daniels & Tennessee might not think Oram has it "in him."

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Indeed we have to remember Walter is a Robot, he is a Machine and he runs basically off a Program.

He could act and be 100% Friendly until a Moment MUTHUR Activates a Hidden Program which then Sets Walter into a different State.

But we dont know as yet, as this would mean that MUTHUR had been Programed to do this which would mean the Computer had some knowledge of exactly where the Covenant would be going.

And as i stated on the Weyland Agenda Topic, i cant see the Covenant having a AI with this secret Agenda. Unless unknown to Mankind the AI on Earth is running the Show without us being aware.

Maybe David could reprogram MUTHUR or Walter? That would make more sense.

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Daniels did tell Oram "we dont even know what the fuck is down there" while Oram has a look on his face like who cares? All Orams fault indeed.

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One possible reason for using Oram is so Walter doesn't get his hands dirty (at least not that Daniels and Oram can see).  

My view is that the company doesn't wish to put their whole secret agenda on the android's shoulders.  If they send the special orders directly to Walter, there may be a way for colonial administration and Earth government to monitor the transmissions.  A form of government is still in existence, and there are other megacorps/groups/competition who might want the bioweapon.  Which is partially why the private security forces must keep most of the data on their agenda classified.

By sending the special order directly to MUTHUR and having her relay it to the crew, it allows them to be as vague as possible about the lifeforms in official records.  Walter and Oram would already know what to do beforehand, while the other crew members are unaware of a small clause in their employee contracts that requires them to investigate the source of the transmission and activates the Special Order.

If it's in the fine print of the employee contracts to investigate the source of the transmission, then it would allow Oram, MUTHUR, and Walter to convince them that it's in their best interests.  Daniels wouldn't be too thrilled about the idea, but there's a chance the company won't renegotiate her contract.

The security officers aboard the Covenant are likely being exposed to the ALIEN for the first time.  Colonial admin mandates that at least 2-3 security officers be stationed at the proposed colony, so W-Y neglects to inform Lope about the bioweapons, the rogue android, Engineers etc.  Due to this, Lope isn't fully prepared to deal with what they encounter.

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I personally think Oram is a black sheep kinda. 

He may very well be responsible for the murder of Branson. Although Branson in the last supper already was feeling sick and ill. Could very well be just dead by natural causes of the sickness and unfortunately not waking up from cryo sleep to build up tension right at the beginning of the mivie.

Personal thought why Oram could be a black sheep is that he has knowledge or/and orders from weyland yutani he has to keep secretly.

Maybe yutani knows about the present location of david and somehow knows about the experiments he is doing. (I dont think david knows that yutani knows though to speak)

Maybe they send 2000 potential victims to david for further experiments on purpose. Although no one knows that. Especially not the crew they could be told a great big lie. Therefore not looking up the criminal past of the pilot tennesse matters or is less important to yutani cause the whole crew is expendable anyway like always. Yutani does everything for further science even sacrifice mankind.

Maybe Oram knows/has order from yutani to act in there regards. Maybe to convince the crew to check out the distress signal or to trust david.

I dont think he is an Android. Oram is a human. Oram like his message to earth tv spot shows is a kind of person following orders directly and as a priority.

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