Anyone Else Just Not Give a Rip About Blomkamp's Alien 5?

Grinning & Dropping Linen I agree that the Ripley chapters are over.

I understand that we have debated what is canonical and there is no unified rule except FOX says what is canon.  Personally, I consider the Quadrilogy as canon and look to the prequels as canon too. It may not work for you or others, but it does for me. If nothing else, our debates keep the forum alive and members engaged!

I consider Canon to be R. Scott's works when I'm writing.
That said, for Enjoyment and lively discussion, I do involve the rest of the works from all sources.

I DID enjoy ALIEN 4, as it did give me some good ideas/inspiration, I did enjoy the dialogue 'cheesyness', and some characters were nicely developed with some good scenes.
EG; The scene between Captain Elgin and General Perez in the General's suite, the basketball-brawl, etc..

I love that the basketball swish was real- if only the camera was moved up a bit! IDK what people say I like AR!

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Yeah, blew my mind when I found out that was a real thing, not an effects shot!!
Ar, while it might not be Canon, is watchable if you de-couple one's brain from Canon and just go along for the ride. The scene where the xeno climbs into the escape pod...Nasty :)

I consider the Quaudrilogy and prequels canon- to each his/her own.

Like many here I moved on long ago.I used to be not sure what I was more excited about,Alien 5 or Prometheus 2.But once that became Alien Covenant Alien 5 drifted farther from my thoughts.There were too many red flags anyway such as how pretentious Neill Blomkamp was with thinking he had the sequel Aliens always deserved.Also the decline in quality of his films among other things.The worst part had to be James Cameron's support of the film,he's just as irritating as always.I don't ever want to him involved with the Alien franchise again and that's coming from a guy who says Aliens is his all time favorite movie (i know Blasphemy considering I'm probably the only person here who loves Aliens still)

I don't think it's a matter of blindly following wherever Ridley Scott goes, as it is simply preferring his aesthetic. I just enjoy his Alien universe over anyone else's.

As regards James Cameron, he's an excellent maker of a certain type of film, but he doesn't excel at subtlety or surrealism and both are needed in an Alien movie.

I've never seen a Blomkamp movie so I can't speak to his abilities, but the way the whole Alien 5 thing came about speaks for itself; the timing, the presentation, and then Sigourney did a fine job of convincing me that I wanted nothing to do with it. As did Michael Biehn and James Cameron. And every troll saying Ridley stole this opportunity from Neil Blomkamp. What a mind blowing mess of petty humans.

Unlike the Star Wars franchise the A L I E N has been bedevilled by a lack of an overarching coherent vision. Many here point out matters like scale, beacons, queens/morphing etc etc. However the much bigger issue is to stay coherent with the overall style and intent of the movie. The first four films were stylistically and purposefully all over the place. Probably the spartan introspective  3 in the assembly cut has more in common thematically with elements of both Alien & Prometheus.  

One thing that really struck me last week is how similarly A & P play. Quite empty and spartan lots of atmosphere and low noise but tons of visual feast. If he had put Fifield in the corridors on the way to the Juggernaut and we had glimpsed some Alien characteristics but not been quite sure and then revealed the Deacon at the end that would have made them extremely close given the other considerations of SFX.

So for Ridley to come back and look at the matter from a different perspective and to continue is a good thing for that overarching issue. He calls Prometheus not a bad effort my sense listening to him and Wayne Haag is he is now in his stride. Most importantly he has got comfortable with the role of the creature. They are viewing it differently to the ambiguity of Prom. The trick then is for him to make this lead into his first film interesting, fresh and entertaining taking a careful line between iconic elements against predictability.

That will not please everybody there is a substantial element of the fan base that are A L I E N S centric with its action gung ho lets get the bastard approach. A lot more noise a lot more hardware and easy dialogue. For me Avatar and Aliens have a lot in common in that regard except the marines are up against pretty righteous rather than hideous unrighteous.  

When I sit down a week on Thursday I have a whole range of things I am intrigued by and one of them is to see to what extent he has outmanoeuvred Blomkamp by getting into that Aliens type vibe just enough to convince everybody he gives something for everybody.  I hope, and the numbers come out right and he can make the follow up. Blomkamp then really would be R.I.P. and for what its worth the ideas for the fork sounded desperate to me. How many more times is Sigourney gonna executive produce a come back ?          

Just as a funny aside to lighten things up:
I teased a friend of mine who is HUGE into STAR WARS that R. Scott was going to direct and produce an upcoming SW movie.
Ever see a pure mix out outright terror and ecstatic glee? Bloody hilarious!! And he wasn't too mad when I told him I was just kidding. :D

As for Blomkamp, I find it very hard to get a 'feel' for him, what direction he comes from as a Director. DISTRICT 9 was great, loved it, Elysium, had some good parts, but it got muddy and just didn't fully 'work'...all the parts were there, but it just didn't work right for some reason.
Chappie...yeah, my take on that involves language I cannot use here in the forum.
At best, I think he needs more experience to fully Mature as a director and find his 'Way' of things. Worst case, he was a one-shot success who'd doomed to slow decline and obscurity.
I cannot honestly tell which is the case with him.

@Neomorph you are still cracking me up. I can see that rendition in Johannasberg just as you mention it, lol.

@Starlogger just being real XD 

After watching ALIENS, ALIEN 3, ALIEN RESURRECTION and a bunch of AVPs (Yep, I did that)... Seriously, ALIEN 5 would just be more of the same, nothing against Blomkamp or any other director - BUT James Cameron, who I think should stick to his Avatar (2, 3, 4) or whatever.

If it ever comes out, I'll watch it. If it doesn't, I won't even notice.

What I really care about is Sir Ridley's work on what he wonderfully started.

I'm glad they're not making A5. Blomkamp's apparently a one-trick pony. I liked District 9 enough, but that's it. Besides, it sounded like A5 was going to be a passing-of-the-flame story, focusing on Newt, last I heard. Considering Newt is an extremely annoying character (and just one of the many things ALIENS did wrong), I had no interest in the proposed A5 film, and do not lament its premature death.

Maybe Blade Runner 2049 will bring the two universes together...