Biomechanical Xenomorph Origin (spoilers)

But the Funko xeno has blue lines...Shaw's suit featured orange lines.  David 8's suit however featured blue lines like you see in the Funko xeno.  

Just look at The Crossing & you'll see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeMVrnYNwus

@Ingeniero

It looks like veins to me, rather than the piping of a space suit.  Also, on the Prometheus space suits that had piping, the piping was orange.  Those things are making me skeptical that the Xeno is wearing a suit, let alone that it is Shaw's suit.  Why would a Xeno be wearing a suit?

@Ash

That is what I was thinking... wouldn't the piping be orange if it's Shaw's suit?  And it's not just David's suit that doesn't have the orange piping, it's all of the males suits, while the female suits do have it.  The male suits do have little lines but they don't appear to be piping like the ones on Shaw's suit, they appear to be the same shade of dark blue as the suit.  But I could be wrong b/c I am looking at the pictures on my phone so maybe there isn't as much detail.  

I always figured David created it except that he would die in the process. Walter anyone?

I'm still leaning towards Walter wearing David 8's suit dk in regards to the Funko angle. 

If David 8 was able to take Walter's clothes (and get his face scratched doing it) and replace Walter's clothes with his suit on Walter...my best guess. And Walter evolves into the xenomorph wearing David 8's suit.

Or, Walter could be convinced by David 8 to give up the humans.

My initial thought upon finding out the Space Jockey is a suit and not a creature, is that the Derelict HASN'T been there for hundreds/thousands of years. IMO the Space Jockey wasn't fossilised but whatever the suit was made out of led them to believe it was a fossilised creature. For all we know the Engineer inside the suit could've been facehugged by one of David's eggs already containing the biomechanoid DNA. A queen erupted from SJ's chest, he crashed/landed on LV-426 and died then the queen laid the eggs below. So this probably happens a few years after the events of Covenant.

Pretty far fetched but this is the only way I can see it making sense with the timeline, doesn't explain the stasis over the eggs though..

I'll be very surprised if they explain it any other way convincingly. Perhaps they'll have flashback scenes in Awakening showing what happened on LV-223 all those years ago along with the Derelict crash if it has in fact been there all that time.

There's going to be some retconning into Alien since the crew of the Nostromo was just "best guessing" the situation, not knowing anything about what they were seeing. We are NOW presented with the facts leading up to that sequence, period.

After considering this interview and listening to RS over and over, I still think he meant that David created the Xeno IN THIS FILM only, obviously trying to copy something from the past "Engineer's Ways", considering XX121 creatures were on murals in Prometheus and LV223 and so were chestbursters.

@Starlogger - I agree David created a Xeno, or 'Him', in this film.  I am hoping Sir Ridley will address the LV-426 'elephant in the room' & the Engineers in future installment films?

I am not fired up about Alien-Covenant & its lack of Engineer-explaining lore?

.....Of course I am going to see Alien-Covenant on opening day, I am just saying.....

Cerulean Blue, I feel the same way regarding the lack of Engineer history but I believe Alien: Awakening will cover that. It has to.

How did David 8 set this up?

David 8 appeared to be in control of both ships. He was hard at work for a while for this to happen.

This has to be covered and all the Engineer history David 8 mentioned (their ways) in Alien: Awakening.

We are in harmony Starlogger.

"There's going to be some retconning into Alien since the crew of the Nostromo was just "best guessing" the situation, not knowing anything about what they were seeing. We are NOW presented with the facts leading up to that sequence, period."

Yes, I agree Starlogger, David 8 was using the Engineer's ways with black goo.

I believe the "David made him." was in reference to the biomechanical xenomorph created by taking advantage of the biomechanical member (Walter) of the Covenant crew.

And that also may be why the biomechanical xenomorph has a longer gestation time in relation to the neomorphs.

The neomorphs are more organic (wild) while the biomechanical xenomorph seems to be an entirely different organism. A patient, thinking, lurking human killer shown in Alien.

@Ingeniero

"... but I believe Alien: Awakening will cover that. It has to...."

Ridley-mumble: Really, who said that?!

Stuff is getting stranger by the day. Time and canon wise. Even in regards to Ridders own Alien movie. TBH i'm get'n suspicious bout A:C.

Tiwaz, I still think the complaints and mumbles sum up to Alien: Awakening coming out soon as well. Dr. Shaw is dead in Alien: Covenant but we have seen sequences with her in it alive with David.

Is Dr. Shaw's part in Alien: Covenant and Alien: Awakening only a corpse and a short sequence repairing David 8?

I just don't believe that. That is why I believe Alien: Awakening will come out real soon (maybe later this year I so wish) and will fill in the gaps in the story the reviews have complained about.

Since D8 is the center of this film, expect to find out how shaw influenced him and more info on engineer tech in AA, I say. I rather like the hopscotch between engineer centered and alien centered films. Each has a place now, and each satisfy different groups of fans. 

Believe me. There will be no awakening. The Crossing prologue is the last time we see Elizabeth Shaw alive. Noomi Rapace is my favorite actress, and I'm not happy about her fate. But after leaving cinema in 2012 I couldn't imagine the sequel. Because no one would shoot Alien movie with only 2 actors

IllegalAlienSignedUp, that is actually a really good point. The movies are warming up to each segment of fans should Alien: Awakening show Dr. Shaw's influence and the Engineer history that made an impression on David 8.

Anergy, you may be right on how much we see of Dr. Shaw. I hope not because I think Noomi Rapace is great too. I believe that Alien: Awakening would not be confined to only two actors.

Is it settled science that the big chap was biomechanical?  Is it assumed that due to the ribbed external tubing?  I ask because our trachea looks similar to those tubes. 

The blue on the funko xenomorph toy is probably just supposed to emulate the blue flames that engulf the xeno when it's crawling out of that thruster on that ship thing from one of the trailers 

I quit.