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Just watched it! Here`s my short thoughts. Some Mild Spoilers.

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clovenberg2

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Hi, 

So, I was lucky to attend a screening today. As a life long Alien fan and a fan of Ridley as a director I have followed this film for years. As I did with Prometheus. 

I´m frustrated. I´m really frustrated.

I don`t wanna say more. The film look and feel great, but I have no idea what they want to do with this. 

I think Prometheus was better. 

But go see it. Thanks for this site, love it. 

C

 

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what the film really delivered was great great image and sound. Has to be experienced on the biggest canvas. I am just very intrigued to see if there was many scenes that was cut out due to timing in the 3 act. Alien continues its legacy but I was disappointed with this because I just want it to deliver on all strings because those films and history mean so much for me. 

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clovenberg2

Let`s move on before I make you watch Covenant 4 times in a row.

 I would invite that. Put up or shut up forever.

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dk You have to understand where clovenberg2 is coming from. There will be many brokenhearted fanboys, believe me. I should show you a picture of this youtuber I follow before and after watching the movie. First he recorded a video celebrating the good reviews, he was cheering like he was in a stadium. Then he recorded his review; he even gave the movie 3 stars out of 5 but what he said was more appropriate for a 1 star. And he looked so sad! I felt bad for him. But of course, the film will probably be a satisfactory experience for many.

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Show this film to anyone and they will most probably be much more upset because it's frankly this simple:

the film is not good. It's not a well told story. Sorry to say. I just hoped for more.

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joylitt With due respect, I stand by what I have said on this thread.

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joylitt

Good points and confirms a worry I had when I read thwe reviews.
This movie has the potential of splitting the fanbase in a manner akin to what happened with the 2009 Star Trek reboot.

I suspect clovenberg2 is feeling like the fan joylitt spoke of...angry, frustrated, and feeling somewhat betrayed regarding the franchise.

Some of us will LOVE A:C, and it seems some of us might feel like it's a sort-of betrayal. I am hoping the flaws are due to R. Scott knowing that these days you do what you can with the limited time avilable on a movie theatre showing vs what you can do via a DVD, and I did hear he shot a LOT of extra footage and such when the movie was being produced...

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

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dk I understand. I keep the optimism myself!

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I haven't seen the movie yet. (Pardon me for my English is not good, so it may avoid confusion : )

I will go to watch it tomorrow (#excited inserted).

After reading @clovenberg2 and other reviews, I got the idea that I should take this film as more an action thriller. I hope there will be some mysteries got answered, but it's still okay if nothing much solved, as long as it is a good film. 

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Do we get to see much of the Engineers city?

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Let me write a longer note tomorrow. the film is a mess and miss some great opportunities. 

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Jonesy

Good attitude to have about it!!

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Jonesy Your English is perfect. Enjoy the movie. I envy since we have another week to wait. Ignore reviews and take it in for yourself. Cheers!

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Blackwinter-witch yes you are right. But I took a lesson from what that youtuber said. And I am going to try to pass it on to everybody here. First: please let's try to forget a bit about all the promotional material we have seen. It seems there is stuff that didn't even make it in the movie, or that is misrepresenting it (and I'm not talking about the Last supper or the Crossing). Second: let's not to be so fixated about the version of the xenomorph we already know and love. And third: let's go ready to embrace the quirkiness in Covenant  :-) If we can work on these three things, there's much more of a chance we will enjoy this movie 

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Jonesy

You handle english very well! You have nothing to worry about there!
Enjoy the movie, and like dk I envy you as well, as I have to wait till the 19th. :)
but the envy is in a good way. :)

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joylitt

Good, solid, common-sense advice!

Take the movie strictly on it's own.

I agree, that is really the best and only true way to take it, as the spoilers and trailers...well, you make a good point about all those, they do tend to mislead.
Not just in this case, but likely all back through motion picture history.

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Hey Jonesy do not forget to tell us what you thought about the film tomorrow :-)

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@joylitt "There will be many brokenhearted fanboys"

If you mean the same fanboys who whinged about the lack of Aliens in Prometheus then IMO they do not have the right to be brokenhearted, they've done it to themselves.

If you just mean regular Alien fans then I hope I'm not one of them, I really want to enjoy this movie.

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If whats being said here is true Ridly and by extention fox has just lost a long time fan of there movies. I hate to see a classic get butchered just because a director got arrogant and decided to imploy sloppy writing to spite his fans. 

As a note i didnt care much that there was no xeno in his last film. I actually enjoyed Prometheus, i was hoping that this inclusion of the creature was going to be done in a way that expands and develops the universe more by shedding some light on the origin while exploring the engineer race since that was the point of the prequels. 

But to intentionaly butcher cannon and the meaning of the original film out of spite is childish. Or even retconing it since this is a prequel not a reboot, it should be explaining things not muddying the water further. 

Im more disappointed in ridly than anything. I always have the comics wich from what i hear may be telling a better story than this film

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Jeri.theSOB What direction would you take and how?

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dk i would have gone a more subtle route. I would have loved to see more into the engineers and the murals and records they left behind showing history with the xeno or a form of it and maybe describing a bit of how they came to be. 

Maybe state that the engineers found them and altered them or derived the black goo from them or even worshiped them as the perfact organism and thats why they liked biomechanical structures and suits. 

Or have david find this out as he studies them and trys to recreat this ancient being (the alien) and putting his own spin on it giving us the creatures in this film. A way of showing the black goo is a product of the alien in some way and laying out a subtle blue print on how to refine the goo into a simpler form of the biomechanical terror.

I would have liked to have a more engineer focused film that just dips a pinky into the vast ocean that is the alien mythos. Something that brings that lovecraftian fear of space and the unknown by only showing a glimps into the murky depths of the alien and engineer  story  similarly to how the first film only showed a crashed ship and eggs.

The feeling of alien 1979 was one of existenial terror. I remember how it was ment to make us fear what could be out there waiting to be desturbed. Sonething that reminds us of how small we really are that 1 egg could doom an entire race and we would never know what hit us. 

But if ridly is going the way iv been hearing, it would seem he has now shrank the fear of the unknown and the terror behind the alien and the engineers And essentialy stripped both of the soul that made them so iconic in the first film. 

As some one who enjoys lovecraft and kalfka i feel this movie may miss the mark when it comes to intelligent story telling  design. I just fear the alien series continuity and meaining will forever be changed by  the outcome in this film rather than be explained or expanded upon. 

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