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dk

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I have heard complaints about AC CGI but what I have seen looks pretty good to me. Can anyone give an example of what is really good believable CGI compared to AC?

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Slab_bay Sy fi- yeah they have some stinkers! The last one I saw had spiders infected by radioactive material and raided a ski resort- climbing down chimneys and chasing people down the slopes lol! I think Lee Majors might have been in it. It was so bad that you had to see it once to see how bad a movie could be and wonder why it was even funded! The effects were laughable too.

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Trust The Ridley. :)

OH...BAD modern CGI...
Avalanche Sharks.
Still, pretty creative, gotta say.

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Sharknado?! I If that is what you mean I just can't do it!

Maybe one reason why some of the better CGI is in the dark is because they might not have to worry as much about casting shadows?

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In few words bad cgi happens when you don't have enough money or when you don't know how to work with your budget or when you are a lazy cgi artist :-)

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Bad CGI: the Star Wars prequels are some of the worst CGI. it's very obvious because it's completely fantastical for the most part. And EVERYTHING is CGI except the human actors. It looks very flat. It has the effect of a 70's TV Sci-Fi show with the human actors clearly layered over artifial backgrounds. I think anything we're fictional places, creatures, people are portrayed in daylight situations the CGI has to be top draw otherwise it stands out like a sore thumb and looks like a computer game.

Good CGI: Used subtly things work a lot better. Real world locations that are already believable so blend in well. Your mind excepts them more readily. A great example is, another Ridley Scott film, Gladiator. Loads of CGI in that but it was for the most part quite subtle and blended very well. CGI also blends better and is more effective when shrouded in darkness or back light. Some decent examples of this on War of the Worlds. The back lit tripod that comes out of the ground in the middle of the day, with the sun behind, becomes a stark sillehoute. If the light sunlight was shining right on it (i.e. Behind the camera position shining towards the subject) suddenly you need a lot more detail and it's more obvious your looking at a CGI object.

The bottom lime for me is that subtle, stark CGI works a lot easier. Well lit, close to camera CGI looks like a dogs dinner unless it's absolutely amazing, believable, state of the art work. I think the new Planet of the Apes films have some of the best examples of this I've seen. Amazing lighting, texturing, motion capture. It's very impressive and I think will age well as a result. Most companies, if they tried this, would fall flat and the film would look crap as a result as the CGI would be obvious, which I think always detracts massively and is detrimental, if not totally destructive, to a movie overall. The Dog Alien on the ceiling in Alien 3 is an example. It looked like a reflective blob with mirrored appendages. Truly awful.

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Here is another question- can you forgive bad CGI at the expense of a good story/acting? I certainly could.

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I definitely can. But as a lot of people say bad cgi can "Take you out of the story". I am against using cgi just for the sake of it. cgi blood? come on! or cgi fire? that is lazy

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Sorry if I sound like an old fart, but I still think old BW Twilight Zone still kicks butt over a lot of stuff today. Effects were minimal but story and acting were king in those days. Not knocking current movies, but I can easily forgive technical things if the story and actors are good and can sell it. Ex Machina is a good example. The effects were good but not mind blowing but the story and acting sold it.

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Yeah I think I ccould DK.

Godzilla... Truly a God incarnate.

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I always remember watching Independence day in the cinema the day it was released, I was 16 at the time (I'm 37 now lol) and I was blown away by the special effects/CGI

Fast forward to 2017 and I can't believe how dated it looks!

The only thing which has kinda stayed the same between that and the sequel (which imo, is bloody awful), is the CGI effects of the shields, that part hasn't changed.

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