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Awakening, Vickers, Engineers, Space Jockeys and Biomechanoids

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Working Joe

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I made a thread earlier regarding this topic which was for some reason never posted, so ill try again.

AWAKENING:

I got some interesting ideas for the next movie (which is rumored  to be Awakening, the bridge between Prometheus and Covenant). Im so excited for the possibility to see Shaws journey and their discovery of (what i presume) a subspecies of the engineers and their "paradise". Since there is 10 years between Covenant and Prometheus, there is alot of room for an interesting story. I was also picturing a parallell story where we follow a small rescue team who set out to explore what happened to the Prometheus at LV-223. This would set up for some nice Alien action as we would get to see the Deacon in its fully grown size (hopefully) and ofcourse the black goo wrecking havoc. Maybe also get more information of what happened at the base, what the engineers purpose was and exploring more of the backstory of both the engineers and their bioweapon. What i also find really interesting is the idea that they might find vickers and find out she is in fact a robot. I dont really find this that far fetched since the reason her not knowing it could be because she was an experiment by Peter Weyland. But i guess she must have been a different kind of android with red blood to make her believe the lie...

"PARADISE"

Another forum member suggested that the Derelict (in Alien) is a female reproductive system. I found this to be a really fascinating idea. Would probably also explain why the spacejockey in Alien is fused with the chair. The ship, the jockey and everything in it is in a way one living organism. 

I would love if there was in fact a "space jockey" race that created the engineers. This would explain the differences between the derelicts and size of the engineers. Maybe the engineers were just worshiping the space jockeys and mimicking their technology? The derelict in Prometheus/Covenant is clearly different than the one in Alien, much less Biomechanical and more "sterile and metallic". The derelict in Alien is so "lifelike" in a way it all hangs together (the biological look of it, the jockey fused with the chair, everything connected). 

Maybe this race is dead and when David goes to their homeworld he uses some of their DNA to mutate himself to be a bigger, stronger biomechanoid who can operate their ships (maybe becoming the spacejockey in Alien) which would make him vulnerable to the xenomorphs and alien pathogen.

Then he would use the colonists to produce the eggs on the ship.

I know im running wild here but i love these ideas. What do you guys think? 

EDIT: Updated the part about Meredith Vickers.

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Plot hole in so far that the derelict is said to be older than David, thousands of years older even. Further the WY-Report (Canon) states that Weyland knew bout the LV-426 signal before Prometheus.

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When you say it i actually remember reading that in the "Weyland files" on the Prometheus Blu-ray extras. Interesting. The only logical explenation for me then is that it is a ship that took off from LV-223 2000 years ago and crashlanded on LV-426 due to the obvious Alien burst. This means then that the engineers had already created the xenomorph. Would explain its more biomechanical look (engineer biosuit) in Alien.

So David was pehaps trying to recreate it? Idk.. 

Interesting indeed

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Working Joe

I dunno what direction this franchise is going in anymore, but I plan to enjoy A:C. :)

BUT, I'm gonna have to deal with a pretty big schism between Franchise Canon and what's rapidly becoming (by default) My Canon.
C'est la Vie. :)
I'd hoped to be able to keep my works perfectly-aligned to Franchise Canon, but that's becoming more and more difficult.

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I wasn't sure if it was the WY-Report or the DVD-Extra. I own neither. But I know the info is there.

The "derelict vs David"-debate is going on for months now. I believe the general consensus here is that David indeed just recreated it. Perhaps without even realizing it. Reverse breeding so to say. Unless A:C undoubtedly states otherwise. 

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What do you guys think about the idea of Vickers being an android, which a prometheus rescue team finds on LV-223 (parallell story with shaws journey in awakening) and "resurrects" her so they can speak to her? Too far fetched? 

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Vickers being an android, no, given what we know of her personality I doubt she'd have trusted an android to be her doppleganger.

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Interesting idea.

There have been rumors her being an android. Caused by an interview with, surprise, Ridley Scott if my memory serves me right.

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Vickers, she hated David, and likely all synthetics. She also seemed to have this absolute drive to protect her Inheritance...I can't see her trusting a doppleganger UNLESS it was programmed off her own brain, a 'copy' of her personality and didn't know it was an android...then, maybe.

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I would assume she didnt know she was an android, that it was some kind of experiment on Peter Weylands part. 

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Btw is the general consensus here (for those who have seen it) that David is taking the Covenant to LV-223 rather than Origae-6?

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Don't know. Someone here suggested it's actually LV-426 they're headed. Based on the name Origae-6.

Orig (Original)          » Letters=4

ae (Alien Encounter) » Letters=2

-6                     »                    6

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Hmm i doubt that considering the Covenant crew knew about the prometheus expedition, unless that was classified (location) even for the company itself. Also, Origae-6 were according to Daniels the best planet they had discovered for sustaining life (atmosphere, water etc). And you wouldnt actually call the LV system habitable would you? ^^

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Well, at least the lower ranks in WY don't seem to know much according to the Rage War Trilogy:

"They knew there were dangers out there, things unknown and perhaps unknowable. Legend had it Weyland himself had gone searching, and no one knew what became of him."

Admittedly TRW happens several hundred years after Prometheus.

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