Alien Covenant...why it sucked.

1.0 yes he lost his head but it was believable.  And if you don't believe it it's one of maybe 5 parts that are a bit illogical but not a total disaster and of course Ripley keeps them quarantined but ash has a secrete agenda of course so hits the release.  Prometheus has about 100 and some of them are massive not slight mistakes that seem ok big fat stinkers of plot holes. Less in AC but still a lot. And yes it's realistic to have some mistakes and all films have some. 

2 aliens yes that had more than alien and was a little silly but still way more solid than the new ones. 

Alien 3 is bad sorry... even with a good director. 

It can all still be rectified in a sci fi way but it's really not looking good at all if everything we have seen turns out to be true.  Hopefully there's at least one very good film coming it of this series :s . And yes the last two films are great if you have aspergers syndrome or something similar but for everyone else it's cringingly painful. :D

@Bisshop

I still very much enjoy Covenant but I agree about Alien 3 being great.

I don't think any of the first 4 films/Prometheus/Covenant are bad movies. 1 and 3 were suspenseful, 2 and 4 were fun, and Prometheus/Covenant have big themes.

Starlogger  whining and complaining like the crybabies he chastises. Unbelievable, just because you like it then other people aren't allowed to dislike it. Real nice! The writers are not the problem it's Ridley trying to edit in his silly notions of creationism, religion, occultism etc etc. He's driving the bus as he always says so the buck stops with him. Sure, this film may be viewed better as time passes but the characters will never become intelligent. Every character in A1 acted logical unlike AC. A real shame and looks like the masses aren't too thrilled either.

I was disappointed.  When Ripley featured in the franchise, it was about her struggle to survive and beat the unbeatable.  Alien 3 broke a rule.  It began with the premise that the prior film was of no consequence and it did that by telling us that Ripley's quest to save Bishop, the girl, and the soldier had failed as a kind of BTW.  The second release was a necessary improvement.

However, again mistakes of narrative were made in Covenant.  Since the days of Ripley, in every Alien film everyone dies.  This instills in the audience the expectation that everyone will die which made Prometheus a welcome change.  But again we get the "Oh yeah, Shaw died." as if her living or dying was not worthy of drama.  And then, we get the well-worn and tired Dues Ex Machina of mistaken identity.  The moment David/Walter appeared back at the ship I thought, "Don't do it Ridley" but the fact that we didn't see the end of the fight between them or who prevailed...  Yeah, the fix was in and we were going to get the same old switcheroo that got tired in Giligan's Island.  And, we are back to everyone dies in an Alien film. 

Im a fan of alien 1 and 2. I thought Prometheus was good and set up a follow up well. Covenant however did not deliver. I liked the actors and effects as expected. The story was not what was promised by Prometheus. When you break a contact with your audience you lose your reputation.

 It such a shame Covenant reminds me of Alien 3 the way Cpl. Dwayne Hicks was already dead. Before the film started Yes alien series survived that.

For me Covenant like Alien 3, it an act of betrayal with your audience. It just saddens me beyond words.

broomanicus You have a point. Apologists come with the fairy tale that there was a planned arc for this, but that is not true. Prometheus ended with a promise and that promise was broken. It was a coward move to eliminate a character just because maybe it was not as strong as Sigourney Weaver. It was just a marketing bet that turned sour.

It didn't suck. I thought it was pretty good. But it, like most theatrical cuts, would have been better without time limits. In the future, maybe they can show everything while cutting down on the end credits- just scrunch them down in the corner while the movie plays. any TV shows do this these days. Who really cares who the fourth key grip was anyway?

It didn't suck, it just wasn't a masterpiece. 

A:C is a typical very beautiful Ridley Scott film, this one with good acting and buildup but with lackluster later acts. It had its moments but I'm not a big fan of the David the creator storyline (so far at least) 

It didn't suck. And Ridley really played @Bisshop! You're absolutely supposed to know that it's David hitching a lift to the Covenant. He even put in a little android smirk just to let you know. If you think for one moment it was supposed to be a big reveal, you were well and truly played.

The ending was maybe predictable but I found it to be alright but I understand why some people didn't like it. When I left the movie theater I found it to be alright, I still do sort of.

I liked the parts when there were more action, some parts were too slow.

You write that you would like to have had a Alien movie that was more like the first one. Alien was kind of new when it was released so I think that it is good to see in what context it was released. I don't think that you can re-do it again so those that hope for that will be disappointed. When I compare it to the rest of the Alien movies (AVP's included) I find it better than some and worse than some.

When they fought off the Alien on the platform was a scene that I kind of liked.

The movie could have been better but it was from a disaster.