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Extended Cuts of PROMETHEUS and A L I E N: COVENANT?

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Lone

MemberPraetorianJune 12, 2017

History is repeating itself. After PROMETHEUS we discovered script aspects, alternate and deleted scenes, unused concepts, practical versus CGI effects-that Fifield scene and a host of other information which had some of us scratching our heads and wondering why on earth many of those were left out of the finished film.

Now, I happen to love PROMETHEUS, yet I fully understand the shortcomings of the theatrical release and why many people dislike it. As far as I am concerned, the absolutely magnificent The Furious Gods is the proof of the epic masterpiece that should have been.

For anyone not familiar with that epic making of, [which was only made available on the 3D Blu-ray release] who would like to know more, please try and borrow a copy from friends, I promise, it will be time well invested.

Anyway, it is the best proof of the need for an extended cut of the film. The material is there. As an aside, therein, script writer John Spaights actually divulges that it was the Fox execs who decided to dial back on the Alien aspects and focus on the Engineers, not Ridley Scott.

I was pretty much underwhelmed by the concept of Gigers wondrous Space Jockey being explained away as an Engineer, but hey I got on board with it and allowed myself to become fully invested in this new and epic story. Now fast forward to A L I E N: COVENANT and we find ourselves in familiar territory as it appears that Ridley has literally pathogen bombed everything he set up in that previous interesting tributary. Why?

Details are beginning to emerge which show a different looking COVENANT was intended. Seems that many things were dumped or changed during production. Yet another u-turn!

The Art and Making of Alien Covenant includes incredible artwork and practical suit designs. The lack of budget, which is another thing I cannot understand, especially given how well PROMETHEUS did, appears to have taken its toll on the final screen look of some of the creature designs.

The Alien was once a beautiful, bizarre creature. Now just as portrayed in the other franchise chapters, even in COVENANT it has lost all of it’s ability to shock and scare. So why even include it if it can't be done well?

In the recent AVP Podcast, participant Xenomorphine told us that during a conversation he had with Creature Effects Supervisor Conor O’Sullivan the original intent was to bring to life Giger’s Necronomicon IV Alien, not the more human-like Alien we are familiar with. Pity, I was longing for that, because the clapperboards had teased it! That could have been different and awesome, another missed opportunity.

Another potential epic has lost its way. Perhaps an extended cut would please people more? Now we have had the Giger-verse and the Lovecraftian-influenced, O’Bannon mystery virtually wiped out. Both films have been derailed to an extent. I feel that Ridley is allowing his vision and reputation to be ruined. Something is very wrong!

 

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

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I think the ONE thing we are all MISSING....IS

*Hands up who would love to see a 3 hour movie, fitting more stuff in?

*Hands up who would like to cover Prometheus a bit more?

*Hands up who would not like to cover Prometheus parts more but want Straight up Xenomorphs.

THE LAST TWO Points show how Split the Fanbase is, so what flick can please ALL? 

One that would need a longer Run time for Sure... so if we had a TWO Part Movie after Prometheus that would be 2.5-3 hours each, maybe they would do justice... and cover more of what we want to see.

HANDS UP WHO WOULD LIKE THAT!!!!

Then it would need a Larger Budget....

*Hands up who would like to had seen TWO back to back Sequels with a combined $300-400M Budget?

YOUR WISH IS GRANTED...

$350M Budget TWO movies 5.5 hours Run Time..

*Hands up who would go and see this at the Cinema?

Now take every Franchise Fan who Put their Hands up and pay to see this... everyone of us watches them Once at the Box Office, 50% return for a 2nd viewing and 15% a 3rd viewing.

would this double a $350M Budget?

Sadly i doubt it.... so they need to get the General Public, and Sci-Fi fans to come and see the Movies, open it up to wider Audience so they can make that Money Back.

Sadly this General Audience would not go and see a Alien movie if they had to sit through 5.5 hours Total over 2 movies.  

This is how FOX see it.... hence lower Screen Run-times...

*Hands up who would loved to see more Gore than AC? and Prometheus to also be more Horrific and both Movies needing to be Cert 18?

Again this would lower the potential Audience... hence why Prometheus was a Cert 12-13 year olds and Alien Covenant Cert 15 year olds..

Sadly this is not what a lot of us Fans want... but its what FOX feels will allow more people to go and see the movies and make more $$$

Simply making $$$ is whats important, rather than giving us a Movie that pleases the Fans that is Cert 18, 2.5-3 hours  each movie.  A bigger Budget of $150-180M each to do it Justice.

Yes we the fans would be happy, but FOX would maybe not Break Even and would have to rely on DVD/Blu-Ray Sales to rake back their Money.

Sadly this is the TRUTH :(

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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But extending upon that post....

They could cut it down for the Box Office... but then add more scenes that add the run time and would require a higher Age Limit for DVD/Blu-Ray Release.

RS however seems to like the movies how they was cut, Prometheus was his Directors Cut, and Alien Covenant it appears wont have no real added scenes...  Maybe we could see a few extended death scenes though?

Because doing so would make FOX more money on DVD/Blu-Ray etc Sales...  But i think they think they can make good return by simply adding these things to the DVD/Blu-Ray Extras.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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I'm sure Fox would love a longer, extended cut of Prometheus so they could have another release to make earnings on, but Ridley was not interested in that, for reasons he and Lindeloff explained clearly back in 2012.

Whether or not Ridley will do an extended cut of AC is still to be seen. I'm sure we will get some deleted scenes on the DVD/BR release, but from what Ridley has said, it is highly unlikely he will cut together a longer version.

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If there are version of it that can include scenes that make the characters look better and that will make sense of things then sure why not? Cut out dumb things and expand the characters.

 

As far as I know there are fan versions of Prometheus that seem to be better than the theatrical version. Maybe there will be the same with Covenant.

 

The tone in Covenant compared to Prometheus is very different but I find that to be  good thing because I am more a fan of Alien than Prometheus.

 

My guess is that there will be another prequel and I will give it a chance. Hopefully it will be better than both Prometheus and AC although I think that AC did a lot better job than Prometheus.

 

I would like to see the cut scenes from AC, that would be interesting.

 

Lone: As far as 2 hours is concerned, if the movie makes more sense while being maybe two and a half hours then I would gladly watch the longer version. Having a movie that makes somewhat sense is the most important things (including well done characters).

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