Gay Kiss Cut From Chinese Version of Alien: Covenant

Ripleys_Ghost
MemberFacehuggerJune 18, 2017Gay Kiss Cut From Chinese Version of Alien: Covenant
http://io9.gizmodo.com/gay-kiss-cut-from-chinese-version-of-alien-covenant-1796204589
"Over the years, the Chinese government has implemented censorship laws on films and shows, under the guise of protecting children from sexual or violent imagery. Chinese TV shows are forbidden from showing gay relationships, but films don’t have the same restriction. Even so, it’s not surprising that the kiss between David and Walter was cut, as censors err on the side of restrictive when it comes to LGBT representation. Brokeback Mountain was denied a release for its depiction of a gay relationship, and Best Picture winner Moonlight’s prospects of getting a release are slim-to-none by this point."
"David has a puncture wound. Walter does not. The right picture show the android back on the Covenant after they leave the planet."
Indeed its a visual clue that allows us to wonder if David transferred his mind instead.... however RS confirmed this never happened and the Hole/No Hole is a Oversight.
Which with RS we have to get used to BIG TIME... The Eyes of the Engineers in Paradise and Size etc is another one.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
@tdby2: "Good for future of children."
haha... no kidding. At least Commander Data had the right idea:
Ripleys_Ghost: 'I thought that you ladies were attracted to less tangible qualities like personality and character?'
Ughh, how careless I am, I looked at your user name and thought you are a woman.
'"I'll do the fingering" - David 8' - by Ripleys_Ghost
I think there's no need to shout the sexual/homosexual connotation again and again with the aim to generate clash between the members of the site.
With the sentence 'I'll do the fingering.' David wants to convey the message that 'Walter, come into my world. Be my partner in the future. Let's rule the galaxy. Follow me and I'll show you everything. I am the boss, I'll tell you what to do." That's all.
Ati Oh please. The writers and Fassbender have confirmed there was a sexual connotation in that scene. Just live with it.
Well having seen the movie 3 times it came across to me that scene was a bit camp, and came across a bit comical innuendo like we was watching a Carry on Movie... a bit of Tongue in Cheek..
Was it meant to imply a Sexual innuendo? who knows.. but it does come across a bit like that... its how it was interpreted by some.... who knows if this was the intention though.. only Fassbender and RS would know.
So David did come across a bit Camp.... like in the video i linked LOL
I think it was a bit too much, but then it kind of allowed Fassbender to explore a new role with David, one where he seems to be getting in touch with his Sexuality, which i know kind of does not sit well with some fans.. and there is certainly no need for any Homophobic Comments towards him, but certainly he was portrayed as a confused robot.. whos Emotions are getting out of control.
And i think in part you have to applaud some of these changes they made to the Character... very risky route and it did kind of bring a Camp side to David which i felt was interesting to a degree.... but somethings may have came across a bit comical..
PS i have nothing against Camp-ness... i am actually fond of a lot of Camp Artist and i find Guy Pearce's Pricilla Queen of the Desert a very entertaining movie...
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Ati Oooops haha You know what I mean. Anyway whoever doesn't like David being gay can go do the fingering to themselves.
Please, everybody forgive me, but I must upload this image here, because I like it so much:
@BigDave
There was defintely some intentional campiness with his character. They seemed to be having fun with that aspect of him. David was even delivering several one-liners in the movie (Don't let the bed bugs bite). There were even a few more one liners in the book, so they must have thought it was a bit too camp and pulled back on them.
@Ati et al:
Don't get triggered over the 'fingering' thing. I'm just talking about what happened in the movie. Tons of sexual innuendo there. Sometimes, I think that some folks saw some other movie. Nobody's saying anything negative about gay people or the gay lifestyle, even in space.
If Sir Ridley tweeted that there was no sexual innuendo (or outright sex) in the film, or that the earth was flat, you guys would swallow it all and re-tweet it.
Ripleys_Ghost Honestly, I don't care much about what the director or the writers say. The movie speaks for itlself. We should all agree that Alien Covenant is not the movie that is going to help you accept gay people. And I am quite certain the writers have included David's homosexual traits to reinforce the notion that AI is something that you are supposed to fear. Because you know, in the world of today we don't fear AI since it doesn't exist, but a lot of people fear homosexuality, and this gives the threat much more immediacy.
@joylitt
What? Where is that coming from? You do realize that all the Covenant crew were couples and that Lope and Hallet were gay, married characters don't you? We were not supposed to fear or not accept them. They were written as normal people, just like the other characters. The film makers obviously did not see anything wrong or abnormal with ones sexual preferences either way.
David on the other hand was abnormal in every way imaginable, compared to a human. In the movie he kissed both a male and female character, and told both a male a female character he loved them. He also said he loved Shaw. He still killed her and attempted to kill the other two. He was an equal opportunity psycho :)
@Ripleys_Ghost Thanks for the link! Also, with regards to David's scar, on the Weyland site it says David 8's can repair themselves to a certain extent so perhaps the whole repaired itself since it is so small. I'm pretty sure Ridley even says David cut off his own hand and simply took Walter's place, he never said David swapped programming with Walter.
It's funny you mention women factoring men's personalities into sexual attractiveness, because after seeing how David treated Shaw, etc. he became repulsive regardless of his very agreeable physical attributes.
@Kethol Yes David did kiss members of both sexes, one being an exact physical copy of himself. I didn't see it as a gay kiss at all, more of an expression of his narcissism and his exploring a newfound sexuality.
@joylitt Nah, like Kethol says, there's a male homosexual couple in the movie, they are shown even in the viral campaign as a normal, affectionate couple, nothing in the movie is against homosexuals. David is kissing himself, it's more narcissism and exploration than anything else. Technically speaking the kiss would be incest (they're brothers) so don't go reading too much into it imo, lol.
Like I said before, the only kiss in the movie that people should find disturbing is the one David forces on Daniels.
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@Lilly (Svanya): "Also, with regards to David's scar, on the Weyland site it says David 8's can repair themselves to a certain extent so perhaps the whole repaired itself since it is so small. I'm pretty sure Ridley even says David cut off his own hand and simply took Walter's place, he never said David swapped programming with Walter."
I still think that Sir Ridely is pulling a bad retcon. David's hair is much lighter, and his voice box was broken before the crew left the planet. In terms of the what we saw in the movie, it makes no sense to assume that the android aboard the Covenant at the end of the film WAS David. I see that most people really cling to the idea that it was David... but they must have been watch ing a different movie than I did.
Where on the Weyland site does it say the David 8s can repair themselves to a certain extent?
It says David 8 can conduct his own maintenance procedures, like replenishing his high-turbidity hydraulic fluid, but nothing about repairs. In fact, it specifically states for physical damage he must be taken to an authorized Weyland Cybernetics facility.
@Kethol: "Where on the Weyland site does it say the David 8s can repair themselves to a certain extent?"
People are saying a lot of unsourced things on here. Personally, I think that the actual movie should be considered canon.