Alien: Earth and Alien: Romulus sequel news

Ridley Scott confirms engineers will return in sequel to Covenant

21195 Views38 Replies
Forum Topic

Neomorpheus

MemberOvomorphJune 20, 2017

Not sure if anyone here posted about this yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWxDGO_9ZPg

 "There will be three or four different players coming in to investigate, one of which will be the engineers arriving back to find their planet decimated."

 I'm not sure where to find the full interview that these snippets are taken from. Perhaps he says more.

User Avatar
Cerulean Blue
Group: Member
Rank: Facehugger
View Profile

I hope this post appears with a verifiable link!

User Avatar
sherris
Group: Member
Rank: Chestburster
View Profile

I been here 4 times already!!!!!!

Take This.... This is the blood of our lord

User Avatar
Cerulean Blue
Group: Member
Rank: Facehugger
View Profile

@sherris - HAHA!!  Me TOO!!

User Avatar
Barf The Mog
Group: Member
Rank: Facehugger
View Profile

No article link - not confirmed.

A youtube video seems like a flimsy source.

User Avatar
sherris
Group: Member
Rank: Chestburster
View Profile

Im sure i have seen that interview - but i dont recall hearing that part before!

That is so good to hear!! I really thought the Engineers were done and finished. FOX felt they werent interesting enough. So glad that is not the case.

Say what you want about RS and his comments and general mental health, he even got forgetful in that snippet! No matter, he seemed certain they would return and it has made my evening seeing that.

Im going over my theories in the morning and returning with hope!

I had just about lost the will to enjoy this franchise but hearing the Engineers will return and by the sounds of it, that may include the elders if they are checking up on planets, is great news!!

May of got a little excited there but i have something to calm me and get my mind working on the next Engineer theory that may arrive

Take This.... This is the blood of our lord

User Avatar
Kethol
Group: Member
Rank: Chestburster
View Profile

Yeah, it has been posted here a few times. He really did not say anything else about the next movie. Just those bits.

"There will be three or four different players coming in to investigate, one of which will be the Engineers arriving back to find their planet decimated…Those ships (Juggernauts) come and go on regular intervals."

So the Engineers make a regular return and find someone wiped out their outpost. One of the other players coming to investigate will surely be a ship from Weyland-Yutani. David has probably communicated to the secret division he or Weyland set up for the Prometheus mission. He sends a secure message to WU in the Covenant book, and in the movie Mother recognizes David's security code, so nasty company business is coming.

Ridley also said in the recent Jonny Nelson interview that the story was going to be "War of the Worlds" and "that's where we're heading", so you can probably imagine what happens when the big guns arrive on this planet and go against the Engineers.

"I see them as the gardeners of space…where we go next is obvious. Were gonna actually go to the planet..."

I assume that means we will be going to the Engineer home world.

User Avatar
Gralen
Group: Member
Rank: Facehugger
View Profile

Not sure if this is serious (unless written & confirmed).

But i see it as the start of a new hope where the backstory of this species is further expanded, which Alien:Davenant obviously missed.

So the ships are gardeners of space which is another word for seeding platforms/vehicles, and the local lifeforms on planet 4 where regulary visited by this gardener ships?!

Whatever this means i was right in my thought this is not their actual mainworld and the Engineers are by far not extinct (maybe still billions around in far regions of our and other galaxies)

User Avatar
BigDave
Group: Member
Rank: Deacon
View Profile

35 Seconds... "ive lost the Plot, what was the Question"

I think we need to look at this.... lol does he know what he is doing? Does FOX?    Maybe they could give us a Bell and i get the Plot back on Track for them ;)

But with RS he has a habit of contradicting himself over and over... he confirms its being Written... which means they have not 100% got a Draft ... they have a idea but it appears maybe they are taking on board Reaction to AC?

Because in a Earlier Interview RS confirmed he has plans to expand the Franchise, he thinks like Star Wars they can make many movies.. even bring it to a War of the Worlds.

He did however confirm there would be no Parallel Plots, Prequels (as in prior to AC) and that the Plot has to Follow forwards from AC to Alien which would need 1-2 movies, and he said it has to be about ONE thread of String and that Thread has to be about HIM (Xenomorph)  although RS had confirmed they can Evolve HIM (Xenomorph)

This did not Bold Well for our Engineers.... we then had hope that the Prequel Novel will bring in the Engineers and Dr Shaw and David and what happened between Prometheus and AC... but nope.. its a Prequel to the events that lead up to the Covenant Mission  why it was going where it was going and some kind of Espionage and and Conflicting interests. And a attempt to Sabotage the Mission way before it even had set off, well prior to the events of AC..

Question is this Prequel Set prior or post the Last Supper Prologue... we will find out September.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

User Avatar
SpellboundSynapses
Group: Member
Rank: Ovomorph
View Profile

It's an excerpt. Most likely they were talking about something, perhaps a sort of vague question and Riddles went off a tangent. It's nothing. I'm just excited we'll get more of the Engineers. I didn't even know I could be this excited for Engineers.

User Avatar
BigDave
Group: Member
Rank: Deacon
View Profile

But this interview does kind of open the Door for the Engineers but i would say take it with a pinch of salt... as far as RS and what he means... as this comment does seem to back track and confuse.

"There will be three or four different players coming into investigate. One of which will be the Engineers arriving to find that Planet Decimated. I think those ships come and go on regular intervals, i see them as the gardeners of space"

This is when he then loses the Plot a Bit.... (however the video looks edited.. so maybe it was cut to the next part).

"If you got a very expensive vehicle going through space and everyone's asleep you got to have a very good house keeper who will never go to sleep its a computer dude, and so i thought Hal was a genius notion and erm....  ive lost the Plot.. what was the Question".

Then he is asked about how many more movies there would be and how they would fit together.

"ok so were we go next is obvious, were actually going to go to the Planet in so doing... im not gonna tell you the story"

The First part seems to hint as i speculated a while back that Paradise is maybe kind of like Paradise of the Bible, as this place is not where God or Angels come from, but the Cradle of Humanoid Civilization and watched over by Cherubim Angels (Scorpion Ship)  and so maybe this place is where Sacrifices are taken from...  hence my many posts i point out the Hanger which has Statues like the Buddha Offering Statues.

This would explain why the ship was welcomed, those beings thought it was the return of their Hierarchy to take more Sacrifices and not a return of a War Ship... (i have a  theory to those Juggernaughts and its not a War Ship).

I proposed a few ideas how the next movie could carry on and tie in Engineers by having a Ship return to investigate and find out what happened.. then realizing this happened due to what had been done on LV-223 and so then Engineer end up going to this place to wipe it out and catch up with David who Logically would go there next..

It appears this could be what we shall see... but now it looks like David may not be going to LV-223 but its open for debate as RS mentions a Planet... this could be Origae-6 but we have to ask why... why would David go there?

The next part of the comment RS has changed topic to be about the MUTHUR System which i think RS will be showing this and AI plays a Key Role..

Thus the 3-4 Factions at play...

1) Engineers

2) Weyland-Yutani Company

3) The AI (think Skynet)

4.... this one is tricky could be someone else connected to the W-Y Merger who was not happy with this Merger and opposes its creation.

So if we do see Engineers in some way i welcome this... if they are stuck with a Plot... well i am not hard to find ;)

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

User Avatar
BigDave
Group: Member
Rank: Deacon
View Profile

So looking into the Plot its quite simple to paint the Picture.

We have Weyland Company who specialize in a number of areas,  Space Travel and Terra-forming are a Main Part but so too is AI and its Synthetic Models which due to Patents have a Monopoly...

We have the Yutani company that also is a key playing in Technology, although they seem to be more geared towards Communications, and Software and also Androids in which they have a bitter Rivalry with Weyland Company especially in regards to the Patents that they tried and failed to sue Weyland over... giving Weyland a Patent of how Life-like the David Models are and a Monopoly.

But the Yutani Company is a big Communications Giant and Weyland Company Probes and maybe even Prometheus Ship uses  some of their Software/Hardware and so Yutani are able to use espionage tactics on what Weyland are up to.

So we have Peter Weyland and Meredith Vickers gone.. who runs the Company now?  something has to happen to Force a Merger...  Surely NO Owner of a Larger Weyland Company cant Force them to Sell up/ be dissolved into joining with Yutani.

So we can safely assume Prometheus Mission is Lost, but Yutani holds some Vital Information about it.

The companies to Merge.. we dont know how or why... but it happens about 5 years after Prometheus and 5 years prior to Alien Covenant.

The Covenant Mission was planned for 10 years... before the Merger had began....   The Covenant mission was then off to Origae-6 to set up a New Colony on a World that was suitable for Terra-forming and the Largest Scale Terra-forming Mission ever attempted.

Prior to Alien Covenant in the year 2104 (December) there was a lot of Espionage and attempted Sabotage of this mission by Technology Advanced Group (Cant be Engineers) and so some Party was not happy with the Mission and where it was going.... i think this forms a back story around the Merger and how Both Parties may not be acting on the same page.. or someone was against such a Merger....   I wonder if the AI is the one who was against this?

So we then get to Alien Covenant... the Ship Prepares to Re-Charge which it has to do every 1.5-2 years... thus the Covenant Mission left for Origae-6 in the year 2102

Before a Accident happens and the Ship suffers Damage, and the loss of its Captain and another 46 Members of the Crew.  And then we get to Alien Covenant.

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

User Avatar
Kethol
Group: Member
Rank: Chestburster
View Profile

They were talking about Kubrick's 2001 and the future of his Alien series, which got jumbled. The person who edited this video just put together the relevant stuff about the next movie.

This was from the press junket interviews done the week the film premiered. Ridley said several times that week that the next one was already being written. They did not know how the public would react to the movie however, so keep that in mind. They can always change direction, but I hope not. I want to see 'War of the Worlds' :)

User Avatar
BigDave
Group: Member
Rank: Deacon
View Profile

While on Paradise... David arrives upto 10 years prior (looking at Dr Shaws hair) she must have spent 6-12 Months before she put David together and so maybe she remained on LV-223 for that time....  and we dont know how long the Juggernaught would take to reach Paradise but considering the Covenant was at least likely to had been 18-24 months into its journey before the signal that then took them 7 weeks to Paradise... its Logical to assume it would take David much much less than year to arrive.

These beings on Paradise are watched over by a Engineer Docking Ship, and it appears they await the arrival of those beings above them (Elders or Engineers) who Periodically arrive to collect Sacrifices for their Seeding of Worlds.

Between the last visit and the next, they discover a ruined Paradise, and then we have to wonder what information they can attain from this Disaster as to what happened.

Would they want Revenge? how can they find out who did it and where they come from and where they are going.

This is a Plot Hole, that would have to be explained... if these beings realize the Black Goo dropped etc comes from LV-223 or even if they are aware those ships came from LV-223... they could easily get to Davids Juggernaught and work out the Flight Path it had taken and work out it came from LV-223

Which is where i thought they would be taking this, if they chose to bring in the Engineers.... but then if RS is hinting that David will be going to Origae-6... which makes little sense as far as his Agenda to  Create a Xenomorph Army or indeed just allow his Creation to Increase in size. and also to destroy Mankind.. then LV-223 is the better option.

We have to ponder what was important about Origae-6 that warrants David to go there instead, and what is important so that someone tries to Sabotage this Mission way prior before it even arrives near Paradise.

I think its a bit Lazy if by Coincidence Origae-6 is a Engineer World... but we cant rule this out.

The other option then is how do these Engineers who return to Paradise know how to track and find the Covenant Ship?

It would take 7 years to get to Origae-6 we have to assume it would take the Engineers Far Less time to Intercept... and so its safe to ASSUME the Engineers arrive at Paradise to discover the destruction a good 5-7 years after the Covenant Ship has left and thus 14-16 years after David Bombarded the Place.

So how would the Engineers know about Covenant?

The Most Easy... Method as far as Lazy Plot telling well Easy Plot Story would be to discover Walter, and some how Walter can inform them he came from Earth, David another Robot had been to LV-223 and used one of the Engineers Ships from there to Bomb Paradise and Experiment with the Black Goo and Create all those Horrors..

Then inform the Engineers where the Covenant Ship is heading.

So i think guys these last TWO Post kind of paint Half the Picture we will see that will lead us to 1-2 movies.

So it gives us HOPE!  and seems my interpretation and ideas are quite close..  not meaning to Blow my Own Flute... i mean i have had a bit of help with the Fingering from Clues in AC ;)

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

User Avatar
BigDave
Group: Member
Rank: Deacon
View Profile

Well Kethol Fan Reaction helped to change Prometheus 2

And i think its interesting as the other interviews i read, he seemed to be going the route of following the AI, Alien Xenomorph and then even pondering bringing Ripley back into it....

I think the Engineers have to come into play, and having them discover Mankind who was abandoned had found LV-223 and the Hubris that leads to the Engineers creations, creating a AI that has now posses a serious threat... means they would surely have to Eradicate LV-223 and also Mankind.

So it could get back on track to something interesting... it depends how the Fan-Boys Moan about the  Lack of Aliens feel and having it about a Confused and Camp Robot rather than Queen Popping out Xenomorph Eggs.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

User Avatar
Roger55
Group: Member
Rank: Chestburster
View Profile

Maybe this interview was done in May, I found another one where he was talking about Alien Covenant 2 without clues included.

User Avatar
Kethol
Group: Member
Rank: Chestburster
View Profile

It was done during the big post premier press junket in early May.

If anyone wonders why Ridley seems to ramble on in some of these interviews, it's because they sit and do interviews for hours and hours all day. Each interviewer is allotted a set amount of time, then they roll in the next, so he is probably fried by the end of the day and has answered the same questions dozens of time over.

User Avatar
Tiwaz
Group: Member
Rank: Chestburster
View Profile

Ooh, goody! More Ridley-Rambles, "interesting". 

"... I lost the plot...", what was the topic again? XD

Eine Theorie die nicht auf Etwas solidem basiert ist für gewöhnlich nur Geschwätz.

User Avatar
Nathan Adler
Group: Member
Rank: Facehugger
View Profile

@Kethol: It's rather frustrating how so many posters refer to interviews, particularly where Ridley Scott provides key hints (e.g. War of the Worlds), but no links to the original ones are included in the posted comments.  Is there any way the moderator can encourage commenters to do this?  Otherwise it risks becoming hearsay/ fan interpretation!  I'd love to listen to the full interview for the above junket (among others).

User Avatar
Gralen
Group: Member
Rank: Facehugger
View Profile

I expect the Engineers to start a sterilisation/decontamination protocol after arriving on planet 4.

How long this would take and what it involves we will see.

Maybe they even skip this process and just abandon the planet because it's not worth logistically-wise/material wise.

User Avatar
Jonesy
Group: Member
Rank: Chestburster
View Profile

Damn Sir Ridley has so much energy, doesn't look like a 79 year old man at all. I want to know his secret.

Join the discussion!



Recently Active Forums
Alien
AlienDiscuss all things Alien here
Alien: Earth Series
Alien: Earth SeriesDiscuss the Alien FX TV series here!
Alien: Covenant
Alien: CovenantDiscuss the Prometheus Sequel, Alien: Covenant
Alien 5 Movie
Alien 5 MovieDiscuss Neill Blomkamps’s vision for Alien 5 here
New Forum Topics
Hot Forum Topics
Highest Forum Ranks Unlocked
Svanya
Svanya » Praetorian
89% To Next Rank
ninXeno426
ninXeno426 » Praetorian
62% To Next Rank
Thoughts_Dreams
Thoughts_Dreams » Neomorph
88% To Next Rank
Neomorph
Neomorph » Chestburster
94% To Next Rank
cuponator3000
cuponator3000 » Chestburster
84% To Next Rank
Latest Media
Community Stats
This Alien Movie Universe community is part of the Scified network. Scified hosts a network of online fan-site communities containing 406,441 posts by 48,456 members (20 are online now). The Alien Forum is the most recently active forum. The latest Forum topic added was: Episode 4 Observation Spoiler Discussion
VIPWhat are VIP?AdminModeratorSpecial TitleMember
Join the discussion!
Please sign in to access your profile features!
(Signing in also removes ads!)



Forgot Password?
Scified Website LogoYour sci-fi community, old-school & modern
Hosted Fansites
AlienFansite
GodzillaFansite
PredatorFansite
Main Menu
Community
Sci-Fi Movies
Help & Info
+

Sign In to contribute!