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Ingeniero

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The audacity of a xenomorph...it just floors me.

This action provokes a very emotional response from the co-occupant of the shower. Once she is able to open her eyes for a moment, she is able to see the demon more clearly.

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Yes, Giger's design brought to Alien the shock of sexual elements visually clear on the horrible beast and the environment it came from Lawrence of Arabia.

"The sex scene was supposed to show how intrinsic sex (life) and the alien (death) are. The franchise is built on on sex and the appeal of it, the Alien with it's phallic head and the derelict ship and it's vaginal opening." 

To me, the addition of these visual sexual elements supported the biological aspect (grown) of the Engineer technology and added a vile and grotesque layer to the beast. Sexual is associated with "precious" and it is a violation of everything pure to paint the beast in this way.

This is everything I would expect from something evil. Alien worked for me because I believed that the beast was vile, offensive, and pitiless. And I like the arrogant humanoid Engineers for similar reasons.

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I get it daliens. Being the last couple awake after a unique tragedy it isn't too out of place to try and comfort each other. Especially during a shower.

The scene would have more credible for me had they been in the shower crying and trying to keep calm after a crew-wide butchery. Maybe showing the couple with their hands shaking so hard that they have to hold hands and scream-cry facing each other. That might be me after watching what they did. 

I'm with Gavin and I Moon Girl and others for totally scrubbing the nudity out. It is out of place and you could still have a shower scene with everyone's privates out of view.

The gore is certainly in place in the scene because the xenomorph is a space demon that produces such gore but how the scene arrived there wasn't as credible as it could be. 

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Ingeniero I understand you completely. The Xenomorph is a metaphor for rape and is vile. Remember how he did his tail thing with both Lambert and now Upworth? The nudity in humans is pure, hence the couple making love, and the Alien has come to defile it. I don't think nudity is out of place in the Alien franchise, I mean, in each entry there is some form of sexual frolicking that is either Ripley in her tiny panties and crotch shots in Alien or Ripley in her panties in Alien 3 and fornicating with Clements. I do agree more lines between Upworth and Ricks would have been appreciated in fleshing out the characters scene.

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

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Lambert is a great example Lawrence of Arabia.

The obvious "shown" horror is happening feet from Lambert with Parker having his face shredded and then the camera cutting away after showing the xenomorph tail approaching her.

Then, only her horrid screams are heard over the radio without seeing what happened. This made you imagine the unimaginable and more scary than dead nudity on the bottom of the shower.

Kethol makes a good point that the scene could have been more of a shock instead of a build up of Daniels and Tennessee trying to go rescue those in the shower. Show the couple relaxed and then introduce the xenomorph unanticipated. Very similar to the Ripley and Clemens scene in Alien 3.

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I think the Paolo Nutini song loud on the speakers was more out of place than the rest of the scene. For me it was the best acting of Callie Hernandez (Upworth) in the whole movie, her expression looked real as she desperately tried to pull Ricks away from the beast . 

The alien had to get them and I don't see a better place to surprise them. 

 

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This scene was not good, think about it. You have a place where monsters are running around and you go to the shower to have sex? Who would have sex at that point? I would think about staying alive and kill the bastard, but that is me. My impression is that they added that scene just to have some nudity in it.

 

Maybe they were stressed so they got there to get rid of some tension but still it just doesn’t make sense in the context of the situation. Their deaths could have been written in a lot better way. Another problem is that we don’t know too much about them as characters which adds to the problem so their deaths don’t mean that much.

 

Unfortunately it seems more like something out of Scream than an Alien movie.

 

To sum it up of what I would have done if I would have written the script:

 

  1. Let the audience know more about them as characters
  2. Make them die in a situation that makes more sense
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I get the connection of sex=life and the xeno= death but it wasn't a good scene

gavin. I believe the terminator sex scene was most definitely a necessity as kyle was john's father and he dies in the film. so he kinda had to bang sarah

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I do agree with Gavin regarding the nudity in Sci-fi but your reasoning regarding the Terminator story is so awesome.

"so he kinda had to bang sarah"

You are great ali81.

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Thoughts_Dreams There weren't any monsters on the Covenant and they truly believed they left the madness behind them on Planet 4. It was probably a grateful for the last couple alive so lets cherish it type thing.

 

I don't have a problem with nudity in any film myself as long as it fits plus I don't mind seeing naughty bits lol It's always been a part of the Alien franchise so I don't understand why it shouldn't. I was actually disappointed we didn't get to see Waterson in her undies. 

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