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ninXeno426

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To support the other topic i just launched,I'd like to more directly discuss what is perhaps the most divisive aspect between James Cameron's and Ridley Scott's Vision for Alien,the queen xenomorph vs eggmorphing.While the queen xenomorph is more universally recognized by fans as part of the xenomorph life cycle,some dislike the "normalization "of the xenomorph,making them more akin to an insect colony("Bee's man,bee's have hives")as to where the original concept was to have the xenomorph morph a human host into an egg.Also worth noting back in 1986 when Aliens originally released,egg morphing was practically unknown to the world,making the queen so much easier to accept.Only since has eggmorphing become better known among fans,leading some to unfairly criticize James Cameron of "normalizing" the xenomorph life cycle.Also worth noting that Between Prometheus and Alien Covenant,that both the queen and egg morphing are being rendered obsolete in favor of the Black goo contagion.Just another example of visions from these two directors be received rather differently from fans.And with Prometheus And Alien Covenant,does this argument have any validity anymore?

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"In fact, in the original screenplay there were traces of a bygone alien race on the planetoid’s surface – the most notable element being the famous spore pyramid. The characters deduce that the pyramid is a “a pre-technological construction. That slab was engineered by an Iron Age culture at best.” The structure once served as a breeding temple for the planetoid’s primitive  beings, who required three sexes to reproduce: two consensual, and one sacrificial – an incubator to carry the seed.

Unique Race: “In Dan’s original conception the Alien race had three entirely different stages of its life-cycle,” explained Ron Cobb. “First, the egg, which is tended by the third stage adults and housed in a lower chamber of the breeding temple. When ready to hatch, the egg is placed in the middle of a sacrificial stone and a lower animal, the equivalent of an alien cow, is then led on to the stone. Sensing the warmth, the facehugger springs out, attaches itself to the animal and deposits a foetus into the stomach.” At some point in the planetoid’s history, a “cataclysm causes the extermination of the adults … leaving no one to tend and nurture the young. But in a dark lower chamber of the breeding temple a large number of eggs lie dormant, waiting to sense something warm …”

https://alienseries.wordpress.com/2012/10/25/the-alien-planet/

 

There was no egg laying queen in the original script and I believe Ridley Scott prefers it that way. Kind of egg morphing. 

David took 2 face huggers on Covenant, he has seven years of egg morphing ahead.

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Ridley Scott put the egg-morphing scene back in the Director's Cut (2003) so that is what counts. "Queen" is just David's ironic name for Daniels, just as he called Shaw his "Eve".

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if it had not have been for the pace of the movie at the time the egg morphing scene was to be shown then it would have made it into the theatrical release. egg morphing is the original concept by both creator O'Bannon and first director Ridley Scott. but that doesn't mean there cant be a queen in a well established well protected hive, after all, the xeno in alien was alone and was probably starting the process of creating such a hive

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The black goo did not replace the possibility of egg morphing or a queen.  I think with the comment made in Advent, there will definitely be a queen. That is way to good of an easter egg to throw in for fun. He's looking for his queen, which would have been an immortal Shaw (I'm curious if by immortal he meant to live forever, or just through whatever offspring is grown from Shaw).  I doubt the queen is going to have any resemblance to Cameron's queen.  I think it is going to be a more human-related, mutation between Daniels and the xenomorph features.  The queen will probably still be used asa device to create eggs quicker.

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