Between Prometheus and Covenant

"which goes to show it wouldnt have been a bad avenue to take the prequels."

I think this in essence was part of the Problem when working on a sequel,  what kind of movie would it be to have say the first act mainly be David and Shaw and so like a extended The Crossing Prologue if we had say 25 minutes of this or more, it would be ok...  But then when they arrive at Planet 4 and David Destroys the Engineers, the movie would revolve again around David and Shaw interacting, then maybe David experimenting on Engineers... we have to wonder, are these Engineers he finds in very good condition, because surely those Charred Engineers would be no use.

So how does David handle a interaction with Engineers? Surely if there are a number of them, they could destroy David with ease, so there has to be a few and in very weak condition.. Do we get them pleading with David?  Does David ask Questions and demand Answers.   So i think yes a few scenes of David talking to a few frail, emaciated Engineers and then feel their pain as David kills them and experiments on them could be interesting.

But how much of a movie would these scenes take up?

To then return to more scenes between David and Shaw, that conclude with the moment things turn sour and Dr Shaw is in fear of David and attempts to escape.

The movie would for the most part be about David and Shaw, and what a hand-full of Engineers, with subtitles at best....     Yes we could have some Flash backs of Engineers in History, and maybe have some Flash Backs between David and Weyland.

But i am not sure this kind of movie would settle well and attract many people, so you needed to bring in some Human Elements and thus have a Sub Plot, where we go back and forth between David/Shaw and Planet 4, and then some Humans preparing for a mission that arrives where David is or will be heading.

So its kind of hard to do...

The Covenant Sequel has left itself open to the same Problem, surely we cant have a large portion of the movie devoted to David interacting with Daniels and Tennessee (not with how Daniels knows about David) and surely just seeing David awaken Colonist a few at a time, interact a little but then Experiment on them...   This would kind of be similar to what Transpired between Prometheus and Alien Covenant, only with Daniels instead of Dr Shaw,  and a few Colonist at a time instead of a few unhealthy surviving Engineers.

Its going to be interesting to see how they would have tackled any sequel...

I guess even if DISNEY decide to not go ahead with the Planned Sequel, and at a latter date release a movie set after these events...   we can only HOPE Disney will get someone like ADF to take the Drafts that Logan has been working on as far as the Alien Covenant Sequel and Put these Drafts into a Novel so we can at least DISCOVER what happens next.

Regarding the Neomorphs, its the same as the Xenomorphs, some CGI shots looked decent, others just looked very disappointing... its a bit like THE THING 2011 some of the CGI was acceptable, some of it was Poor, i do think AC had better CGI though, but far from Blockbuster Quality.

Regarding the Neomorph's and David, who knows what the explanations could be, the most logical one has to be that David is not Organic and so the Neomorphs and Xenomorphs have no interest in him.

The other explanation in addition to this is maybe David has something he can do that subdues them, or prevents them from harming him.    some had said in some rumors prior to AC that David CONTROLS the Xenomorphs and Neomorphs with a FLUTE this is very the Pied Piper

And we dont see any of this at all in the movie, but still i think having the Organisms being Perceptive or even intimidated by certain sounds could work.... it would certainly be better than revealing David has a Telepathic Link or the Black Goo and Experiments had been Programed to Serve him.

You see David has a lot of Experiments, including Adult Organisms he has performed Autopsies on, and i just cant see David being able to Psychically Man Handle and Kill those Organisms.   Mind you those who worked on the Plot and Props did not give much thought to how PERFECTLY dissect Anatomically all those subjects with Laser Precision with the Tools he had available.

"the most logical one has to be that David is not Organic and so the Neomorphs and Xenomorphs have no interest in him."

Off Topic but this is something i have planned for my attempt of a Alien Covenant Sequel, that will lead to yet more Love/Loss for David (he meets Mrs Right lol) and David's Creation ultimately destroys this... but from Dr Shaws Loss David executed his attempt of Perfection, from the Planned idea i have Davids New Love Interest, becomes the route to Davids TRUE Perfection of his Creation...  And NOPE its no Daniels lol ;)

It is interesting about Lindeloff after having watched Alien Covenant. I now have less blame on Lindelof for Prometheus's shortcomings. Sure he is not without responsibility for it but I think that Scott and Fox messed it up. Two underwhelming alien movies in a row and Scott and Fox are behind both of them, I think that it could be a part of the explanation at least.

Maybe the second movie (that became AC) could have had more of the Engineers, more Xeno clues without having Xenos and other things. It was disappointing that they just bombed the Engineers out of the picture, that suggests to me that Scott and those did not understand the criticism of Prometheus.

Nah, I will probably not watch AC again, it is just not good. This is unfortunate since there could have been some good parts there like the Engineers but they just erased it to focus on David, sigh. Even if they would have had lame human characters and much about David then at least it would have been less bad since the Engineers in themselves are interesting enough.

Yesterday I listened to some podcast and they said exactly like you do about a game plan. There is none as far as I know. Why can't they just sit down and at least get a skeletal version of what they want to achieve like:

"OK we will tell a story about this and that, the main things that we want to show is XYZ and to do that we could do bla bla bla"

I doubt that Scott has it at least, he changes ideas as often as people change underwear. For example first it was about the Engineers and then all of a sudden it was about David and now he is into the Engineers again, I wonder when he will change his mind again? This is a reason why he should not be involved with the script. People are good at different things, he should stick to building ideas for sets and that but not as far as the characters are concerned or the script in general.

Sure, they company side could be told a little but the focus should be on other things but I would rather have that if it brings interesting human characters than a story about David.

David is smart and is probably programmed for things like that so I guess that he could roughly speaking have some idea about how the travel would take. Who knows what kind of things that robots could do in the future so it is an interesting thought at least.

The goo that gets into the water sounds like it could be something of a biological (a form of life) warfare, interesting.

For some reason this reminds me of the end of AC. Do you think that David has some goo left that he can use as a threat towards the colonists like of they don't do as he wishes he will use it to what ever. Maybe he could use that to hold people hostile and then one of his creatures turn on him and kills him.

What if humans use the goo and try to attack David with it? We have not seen it this far and it is probably far-fetched but anyways. Humans can find a lot of things that they don't know about and use without any idea of what it can do. Look at how if affected people in Prometheus. One problem is that it seems to affect things in a random way which could be a result that they did not had an idea of how it would work. The idea is good but I am not sure about if it holds up if you examine it in a logical way.

Maybe the classical Xeno has been shown a lot of times (been cooked as Scott says) but there are other kinds of morphs (Deacon, Neomorph, and so on) that you can use. I hope that they will have something interesting if we get another movie and not just David as a threat because that is not very interesting or if they have David they got to combine that with something else since he alone won't be enough by far.