Time travel in AC2? No! Already in AC. Mad explanation.

THAT'S IT!! The Mala'Kak! GREAT! Thanks Bro!

If You are a Bro!

I'll correct my spelling above. I added more text to it now too Man!

Lost in Space is a great example of time travel as an unintended consequence of interstellar space travel.

"They find the Earth with primitive humans and David finally knew about time travel. He decides to destroy humans at the Dawn of their civilization.

David very proud his latest achievement - the restored Engineers ship. Bio-Juggernaut. David himself has many biomods and become a biomechanical life form - inspired by the last Engineer from LV-223."

That sounds great to me Leto and I'm not against the time-travel in the Alien universe...it's certainly in the comics, below.

Space Jockey

The below video incorporates "far-out" items from the comics, film, promotion including time travel in an attempt to tease out who the Space Jockey could be.

The above room, to me, is a fascinating part of the story because we have no idea how old, how large, it seems to be underground and it is in the novel, etc....all of which could have been build in the past by current characters and events with time travel added.

JPL mentioned it too here and cited the neutrino burst as a potential consequence of time travel.

I'm with BigDave on this being an infrequent, or "one-off" event though because it may not mesh well if it is a frequent occurrence and a main part of the story (such as Terminator) while all the other Alien films have no reference to it. 

If the Engineer tech can fold space then it's not too much of a stretch that they could fold time as well. 

My issue with this is: 

Why sleep such long periods of time if you can just time travel and not use the resources to maintain engineers thousands of years?

To reconcile this...the energy used to fold time and space may just be too large and the Engineers may save resources by sleeping.

"It could have been a transformed David, or a true life form that is either: "fossilized" OR... OR "petrified" in it's place."

That would actually be pretty cool HYPERNOVA and it would certainly make the "what the hell?" list.

INGENIERO... I like the idea that even in a far advanced future & an advanced race, THEY are still trying to reduce their temporal carbon footprint upon the fabric of space/time & that's why they limit the amount of times they "fold" space juxtaposed with time spent in stasis within their hibernaculum.

A GREAT thought experiment/idea INGENIERO!

With the idea of David now potentially being the Space Jockey all along would be a great gotcha'-moment perhaps towards the tail-end of a film as the revelations & plot twists keep coming one-after-another, on the one hand...

On the other, I would still like to hold-out that it is a lost alien being of a race We have yet to see the origins developed more.

It would be cool that somehow the Engineers stumbled upon the last vistages of the Mala'Kak race a very long time ago, long before the Derilict crash-landed & copied it/intergrated it, adapted it, incorperated it, absorbed it into their own as the Romans did for centuries as it advanced out & came into contact with new/unknown peoples of Europe.

From what I understand Leto you are theorizing that...

In 2094 David and Shaw, and in 2104 the crew of the USCSS Covenant was both struck by the same neutrino wave, which sent them back in time to before the Engineers became bio-mechanical. Following which David wiped out the Engineers and after the events of Alien: Covenant he used the specimens he re-created on "planet 4" when the Covenant arrived at Origae 6 to re-create the Xenomorph and to transform a Juggernaut into a bio-Juggernaut capable of carrying the Xenomorph eggs before piloting the bio-Juggernaut and, after falling victim or sacrificing himself to his cargo, landed on LV-426 and sent out a beacon warning any and all away, and where thousands/millions of years later David (AKA the Space Jockey), the bio- Juggernaut (AKA the derelict), and his cargo were discovered by the USCSS Nostromo.

Aside from David becoming the Space Jockey (an idea I find too convenient, convoluted and somewhat arrogant). I actually quite like this theory aside from one small detail or more aptly a nitpick...

All of the above is what is known as a predestination paradox, a paradox that is the epitome of, a perfect example of a causality loop (see the link in my signature) - which is only possible using causal time travel. Alternate or Parallel timeline/reality time travel is theoretically free of paradoxes. For example, if I was to travel back in time to kill my father before I was conceived (a simplified version of the grandfather paradox) using causality time travel I would travel back into my own past and undo my existence, hence the paradox. But if I did the same in using alternate/parallel reality time travel I would travel back into the past of another reality and kill that realities version of my father, thus undoing the possibility of an alternate version of myself in that reality. 

The problem with alternate/parallel time travel is that it requires the existence of a multiverse of infinitely generated and generating parallel realities, which by their very nature seem like an impossibility - what purpose would so many universes serve.

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I will come back to give more two cents to some of the replies...

I think there are some good ideas there LETO... now i dont want to come across bad here.... i like some of the ideas, i am just not a Fan of using Time-Travel thats just my op pinion and mainly because it could open up a can of WORMS no pun intended... and give the Studio a chance to change things like with Terminator.

I think it would depend no HOW the Time-Travel is Executed, and so a ONE-OFF Event.. yeah i could buy that... say some Event that Tears a HOLE in Space and Time.... i was thinking this Solution for LV-223, that it gets Destroyed but this Causes a Temporary Tear in Space and Time, sending the Derelict back Thousands of Years and then Crash-Lands on LV-426 and then the Tear in Space closes.

I think as long as we dont explore Time-Travel as a Technology of the Engineers, because we could ask WHY not go back and Undo Mankind before we was created?

I know i have bashed the Changes that Forced Prometheus to have to connect to ALIEN and the Xenomorph, which i dont mind, its just as a result it had reduced the Potential for Prometheus 2 to go off on a expanded Spin-Off.

In part i felt Blomkamps Alien 5 also had some part to blame, as Fans got excited at the Prospect of a more ALIENS kind of Flick to Bring the Gang Back!

Sorry for going OFF-TOPIC... a little... but i think as i suggested with explaining WHY they never go to LV-223 in the ALIEN Franchise, because it gets Destroyed and this Sends the Derelict back in Time....   i FEEL that similar could work for Blomkamps Alien 5, if the Destruction of Hadleys Hope, Caused a Tear in Space that Caused the Sulaco to Split into TWO Alternative Time Lines.

Fans could choose to IGNORE this reveal in Alien 5, and ignore the Project, some fans could choose to accept Alien 5 over Alien 3, while others could look at the Explosion Causing a Parallel Universe where Fans can Accept both Avenues.

"After 2122. Mankind find Origae-6 and alien civilization - we know them as... Arcturians!"

Thats a interesting idea... one that fits with the Topic i made in regards to Engineering/Evolution, i think thats a interesting take... and sorry if i had came across a bit Harsh in my Moaning about some of the Alien Fans, Expectations of movies having to be connected.

I think the Arcturians! are something that also has never been explored that could be a avenue to expand upon..I had a idea on how to explore them myself... which connects the Engineers, and also reveals the Arcturian Pootang Parties are not entirely for the Leisure/Pleasure of Humans wanting some Fun/Action but that the Arcturians have a Agenda for the Sexual Relationship.

But having David play a part in the Arcturians is very interesting idea... i applaud you for.. it would be interesting to discover more about this ;)

I am not a FAN of bringing the Alien Franchise into having Paradox's i think its Unnecessary, but thats not to say that it cant be explored, as RS had said he feels the Franchise should be where a STAR TREK is..  and so excuse me for going OFF-TOPIC  little..... the Prometheus Franchise opened up a WHOLE Universe of Possibilities, the Virtue that the Engineers Sat-Nav on their ships has other Galaxies means that the Alien Franchise could expand beyond a Star Wars or be similar... in a Galaxy Far Far Away!  well we have to wonder what is in those Many Galaxies Far Far Away that the Engineers must have the ability to visit.  so adding another Layer of Time-Travel i think is maybe Unnecessary, as far as a Technology at least.   But thats just my opinion, it does-not mean exploring the idea of Paradoxes and Discussing them should not be interesting...   I DONT own the Franchise after all.. so anything goes.

A lot of Problems have occurred due to the Changes in Plot with Alien Covenant, its complicated things a little.  They could have gone off to a FAR FAR world, and had clues to the Xenomorph without having to have David and Dr Shaw just end up on the Door Step to LV-223/426.

Thus they could have retained the Space Jockey event as Ancient and Certainly NOT related to David's Experiments/Agenda.  Its maybe a bit MOOT to discus the context of the Ancient Space Jockey, but that dont mean we cant discus it at all... Nothing is set in Stone until we see Davids Xenomorphs directly be placed on the Derelict.

Things had been changed over and over, and so they may do so again....

Ridley Scott had indicated the Space Jockey had done  a Noble Act, and was Benevolent.... WHY would a Benevolent Race carry those Eggs?  We cant deny the Aesthetic Connection between the Eggs and Derelict, This surely meant there was a connection.... but maybe not now things have been changed.  We had RS confirm the Space Jockey Engineer Connection and those Eggs and LV-223 Connection even going as far to EXPLAIN the whole Event...  what had been explained by RS and intended back in 2011-2013 has been changed now though.

Regarding the Mala'Kak i am not a FAN of this concept, i felt they looked well a bit POOR.. to me i did think SKELETON when i First Saw ALIEN... in fact only when i got the movie on DVD and could pause and had also seen Magazines with Concept work, that then it CLEARLY appeared to me that what we had was a Space Suit!

HR Gigers Concepts show the occupants are BALD and Humanoid....   again sorry for going OFF-TOPIC...  our Engineers fit the BILL... just the Scale!

I think while the Space Suit is what we have, it leaves it open to have the Space Jockey as a different Humanoid/Bi-Pedal Alien Race of Greater Stature.

A number of speculated could the Engineers had Stolen/Reverse Engineered their Technology?  Even Wayne Haagg who worked very close to Alien Covenant had the opinion that the Engineers did-not create this Technology and obtained it some place...

So all BETS are on...

@Leto

What? I'm confused here.

I said that I liked your theory, there were no sour grapes, my friend.

I just clarified that your theory works better using causality time travel, and explained why.

The arrogant statement was not aimed at you but instead at the narrative trope - having David (a human creation) be the SJ and also be the creator of the Xenomorph, and the Derelict means the term Alien is moot and it's all our fault, as in we are the center of the universe again, ergo arrogance.

I'm sorry you misinterpreted my reply.

Ingeniero

JPL mentioned it too here and cited the neutrino burst as a potential consequence of time travel.

Haha. Perfect. Two people in different time and places have one idea. I know the roots of this. This is more crazy disaster expalantion about AC and AC2 plots.

I'm completely sure - I know the plot of AC2. I still prepared idea and collect information about... I say later. I'm sure - you will like this.

That sounds great to me Leto and I'm not against the time-travel in the Alien universe...it's certainly in the comics, below.

It's a pity! I still have not read Life and Death.

The below video incorporates "far-out" items from the comics, film, promotion including time travel in an attempt to tease out who the Space Jockey could be.

Great video! I add detailed commentary later.

My issue with this is: 

Why sleep such long periods of time if you can just time travel and not use the resources to maintain engineers thousands of years?

Well, without comics, I think that Engineers just can't. Time travel - not a technology, but random space anomaly - wormhole. And this is different between Alien-verse and Terminator-verse.

HYPERNOVA

It would be cool that somehow the Engineers stumbled upon the last vistages of the Mala'Kak race a verey long time ago, long before the Derilict crash-landed & copied it/intergrated it, adapted it, incorperated it, absorbed it into their own as the Romans did for centuries as it advanced out and came into contact with new & unknown peoples.

Good idea - maybe Engineers find Derelict itself!

Gavin

But if I did the same in using alternate/parallel reality time travel I would travel back into the past of another reality and kill that realities version of my father, thus undoing the possibility of an alternate version of myself in that reality.

This. But kill father not before conceiving, but after. Engineers were destroyed after the creation of makind. And in this, second, time line - humans evolved and progressed on their own. And David (with Covenant), xenomorphs (Quadrilogy) and Derelict are located in second time line. Prometheus, first time line, never have xenomrohps, but have live Engineers.

For example, if I was to travel back in time to kill my father before I was conceived (a simplified version of the grandfather paradox) using causality time travel I would travel back into my own past and undo my existence, hence the paradox.

Yeah, primitive theory, but it might work too. Basically everything is the same as with parallel time lines. Prometheus - first path and then was erased; AC and AQ second path. Paradox with Prometheus expedition (father role) has simple explain. As one clever person said: paradoxes are only in heads, they don't exist in nature.

David, Shaw and Covenant get into the past and POP - they they separated from Prometheus and exist as standalone objects without beginning. Any actions and changes of the future will not affect their existence... Huh... That's really can work!

One condition still need: David destroyed Engineers after human creation. But this need not for exist of David, etc, but for... human race availability.

This is different formula than in Back to the Future and Terminator. The third theory of Time Travel. Thanks for idea.

The problem with alternate/parallel time travel is that it requires the existence of a multiverse of infinitely generated and generating parallel realities, which by their very nature seem like an impossibility - what purpose would so many universes serve.

In reality - yes, with time travels, space compression/distortion and other sci-fi magic. But we love this things!

What? I'm confused here.

I'm sorry you misinterpreted my reply.

You confused me with another person;)

BigDave

I think as long as we dont explore Time-Travel as a Technology of the Engineers, because we could ask WHY not go back and Undo Mankind before we was created?

This is the main reason why I think time-travel is a random (perhaps - frequent) anomaly, not a technology. Engineers just can't use it as they wishes and they don't know - where and when will they go.

and give the Studio a chance to change things like with Terminator.

This is not necessary for the Studio for explain retcons. Well, if time-travel used for plot concept - it's can't be retcon. New Terminator don't use time travel to cancel T3 and T4. They just ignore these movies.

Sorry for going OFF-TOPIC... a little... but i think as i suggested with explaining WHY they never go to LV-223 in the ALIEN Franchise, because it gets Destroyed and this Sends the Derelict back in Time....   i FEEL that similar could work for Blomkamps Alien 5, if the Destruction of Hadleys Hope, Caused a Tear in Space that Caused the Sulaco to Split into TWO Alternative Time Lines.

Well, sorry, but this is strange. Explosions like a time machine... Use nuclear bombs if you want to see dinosaurs. I don't know. I hope that the Derelict doesn't back in time, but is built and loaded in the past.

I think the Arcturians! are something that also has never been explored that could be a avenue to expand upon..I had a idea on how to explore them myself... which connects the Engineers, and also reveals the Arcturian Pootang Parties are not entirely for the Leisure/Pleasure of Humans wanting some Fun/Action but that the Arcturians have a Agenda for the Sexual Relationship.

But having David play a part in the Arcturians is very interesting idea... i applaud you for.. it would be interesting to discover more about this ;)

David is sexually unsatisfied android ;) And he create aliens and arcturians as his dreams.

the Prometheus Franchise opened up a WHOLE Universe of Possibilities, the Virtue that the Engineers Sat-Nav on their ships has other Galaxies means that the Alien Franchise could expand beyond a Star Wars or be similar... in a Galaxy Far Far Away!

May be Milky Way is just a laboratory. Petri dish. For.. who knows? Maybe these creatures from another supercluster! Not from Laniakea! Or far away - from another universe (not parallel)! Unlimited potential, yes.

A lot of Problems have occurred due to the Changes in Plot with Alien Covenant, its complicated things a little.  They could have gone off to a FAR FAR world, and had clues to the Xenomorph without having to have David and Dr Shaw just end up on the Door Step to LV-223/426.

Thus they could have retained the Space Jockey event as Ancient and Certainly NOT related to David's Experiments/Agenda. 

Yes, or they can simply put a xenomorph in story without explaining their origin.

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My apologies Leto, and thank you for your humility Hypernova.

To help bring the topic back on track...

I once had a similar theory that maybe Alien: Covenant was an alternate reality created by the neutrino blast. In short, I imagined the Juggernaut with David and Shaw went to where he was originally headed (Paradise) and Shaw got the answers she sought, but not necessarily the answers she wanted and as a result was given a choice to die in peace from her contamination from the black goo or instead trigger the neutrino blast and have the events in Alien: Covenant happen where she becomes integral in Davids twisted work to re-create the Xenomorph - to which she picks the latter.

But alas, I could not get the paradox to work.

If you could get the paradoxes to work, Leto, your theory could be a serious contender.

Now THIS is what I like to wake up to and read Haha, I love the theory that Prometheus and the original Alien timelines exist in alternate realities or moments in time. The concept is a real trip, but not impossible. My only hurdle to get over then would be the acknowledgement the Covenant crew had of the Prometheus mission. Unless what you're suggesting is that there are two (or infinite) scenarios whereby the Prometheus mission concludes in different ways.

I do like the theory about time travel with regards to the primitive Engineers, however. The neutrino burst I think is an overlooked plot detail. How right after that burst does Planet 4 become noticable? And Shaw's recording? Honestly  I never thought of it like that, but it makes a lot of sense Leto!

Great topic, upvoted!

Perhaps the neutrino burst somehow protected the Covenant & its internal computer records & that of the memories of its crew from any potential changes in the timeline, should any have occured.

This was said in Star Trek: First Contact about changes to Earth & all of its inhabitants now being Borg when the question was asked by Dr. Crusher: "if there are no people down there then why are We still here?" to which Data responds: "The conditions in the vortex could have shielded Us from the changes in the timeline." If it is true for that scenario in First Contact then perhaps the neutrino blast engulfing the Covenant could, in-turn, be shielding it  from equal changes occuring/emminating from the blasts central point of origin.

This could account for the memory of the Prometheus mission still being fresh in the minds of the Covenant crew & why Prometheus-based content/information would still be found stored within the Covenants internal memory systems & data records/mission overview/s, ect.

&, what if We discover that David, in some twisted way that has not yet come-to-pass or some event He is involved in that has yet to occur, was Himself  responsible for activating & "detonating" the neutrino burst in the first place? Think how He dropped those Black Liquid bombs upon that Engineer City but instead, He's dropping some kind of Temporal Bomb just ahead of the Covenants spacial trajectory that results in the neutrino blast wave off its bow.

Perhaps there is a motive of His We are not yet fully aware of nor its consequential effects except the after-glow of the neutrino burst.

Maybe He's experimenting again, taking things: NEXT LEVEL status!

Perhaps He's trapped them ALL & the local surrounding area of space/time in a causality-loop of some kind. Endlessly repeating the same moment. If not that, then certainly may have had some hand in the neutrino "event" itself & its intended/unintended consequences.

There is some point in the future We have yet to get to which could highlight this entire cause & effect event.

The whole proposed Prequel "Trilogy" could be an alternate timeline superimposed upon the current one that We are all familiar with & thus Prometheus & Alien: Covenant could serve as a soft reboot of the entire Alien franchise.

Instead of LV-426, We get LV-223... or We share the same timeline but some loop-the-loop event has occured along the way that interrupts the forward flow in the time stream regarding the unforseen neutrino burst from the point-of-view of the Covenant crew.

"Well, sorry, but this is strange. Explosions like a time machine... Use nuclear bombs if you want to see dinosaurs."

Exactly i agree as far as any proposed use of  such a Plot Twist to pass for say Alternative Alien  3 ==> Resurrection, compared to a Blomkamps Alien 3 never happened.  For reasons as i think you indicated, that is surely Hadleys Hope Destruction would NOT be powerful enough to Cause a Tear in Space and Time!

Because indeed IF we took that explanation, then they could come up with other Alternative Time-Lines via the Nostromo Destruction that gives us ALIENS but a alternative leads to a alternative ALIEN sequel with a alternative Ripley!  Because indeed if Hadleys Hope Destruction was Powerful enough to AFFECT Space/Time then Why-Not the Nostromo Destruction, and then you have to look at the FUTURE of Military..

At some point Mankind will TEST a Atomic Weapon in Space that would make our Current Atomic Weapons look like a Fire Cracker, and IF Massive Scale Atomic Blasts like the Hadleys Hope Detonation could cause such Space Anomalies, we cant assume the Military in the ALIEN Universe has Never Detonated something as Powerful in Space before, and so surely would have detected such a Effect.... and used it to open up Alternative Dimensions etc...

So yeah that idea is something i would HOPE is never explored....   However... with the Derelict LV-223 Destruction i was pondering a Engineer Weapon that was so FAR more Destructive than anything we can imagine..   some Technology that could Cause a Tear in Space.

This is one idea i had as far as expanding on the Engineers, as far as WHO are above them... all based of when Ridley Scott proposed a Number of Months before the Alien Covenant Announcement...  he had said.. 

" If engineers are the forerunners of us, and therefore were creators of life forms in places that were possible for biology to function, who created that? Where's the big boy?”

He also added about IF the Big Bang was a Accident, and mentioned that Stephen Hawkings thought it might not be.

From this i wondered was Ridley Scott implying there is some Big Boy, some Greater Force above the Engineers that allow for the Creation of Worlds, Galaxies?

so i wondered what if a Technology could do this, and so i looked at the EGG on the Alien Poster and thought what if there was this, and its like the Cosmic Egg Theory, were some Egg like Device could be used to Cause the Creation of Stars... or even Galaxies...  could such a Technology also be used to Create a Super-Nova like amount of Destruction, or even on a smaller scale... that COULD cause a Tear in Time and Space?

Which could account for the Destruction of LV-223 and said a escaping Ship back Thousands of Years and Crash Lands on LV-426.

However this is just a case of thinking HOW can we repair the damage caused by the U-Turn to give us Alien Covenants Plot!

My opinion?   The Derelict/Space Jockey Event should have been left a Mystery or given clues to show us that it was a ANCIENT EVENT.... and so YES.. David created the Xenomorph was a Bad Bad Move if you ask me.

My BIGGEST Problem with for instance having Movies Created as Alternatives like a Blomkamps Project.. and especially if some Alternative Paradox explanation was given...  Is where does Disney then STOP?

It could Open the Door to basically Create Alternative Prequels, Alternative Sequels to Prior Movies.. and EVEN a Reboot of ALIEN could not be ruled out.

But thats just my concern and opinion, i know such things may-not bother others, i think especially if it allows for Disappointing Movies/Plots to be Re-done in a different way.

In Hindsight... some movies were not ideal.... for various reasons, for various fans, but i think they should be respected and not taken from Canon... but Canon should also be down to each persons personal taste.   The only things i see as Non-Canon are mainly None Official Novels to the Movies and AVP.

I accept Alien Covenant... but i surely hope they do a better job with any sequel.  But i think its unlikely this would be the case as it seems the Prequels are the Least of Disney's interest at the moment.

PS... sorry for going Off-Topic.

Good point Big Dave... If Fox were already planning and willing to get behind a concept that would give an alternate sequel to Aliens with Blomkamp's Alien 5... then it's not totally out of the realm of possibility to assume Covenant and Prometheus introduced time travel or alternate timelines.

I wonder, if a time displacement event did occur with that neutrino burst (possibly) setting the Covenant mission back I don't know how many years in the past or put it years into the future perhaps, but lets say it's the past... Could ORIGAE 6 actually be a "Pre-Historic/Ancient" LV-223 in its prime developing civilization phase or even LV-426 during its  developing times of the past. 

HYPERNOVA

I think - yes! LV-223 has an atmosphere (with CO2), but in the past - with clean air.

And what's more - LV-223 Engineers themselves can be a humans who have been modified by David. BD's Star Childrens.

And they want destroy humans because David gave them an order. And good explained for DNA-match.

BigDave

What do you think?

"Could ORIGAE 6 actually be a "Pre-Historic/Ancient" LV-223 in its prime developing civilization phase or even LV-426 during its  developing times of the past"

This has been speculated before, but i would say 100% No, by Virtue that Origae-6 is  about 8X Further from Earth than Planet 4 was and Planet 4 appeared to be within Close Proximity to the Zeta 2 System.  So i would speculate that Origae-6 would also be 7-8X Further away than LV-426.

@Chris

I think using the Neutrino Burst as a way to open up the Potential for Paradoxes/Multi-Verses and Time-Travel could WORK... its not something i would be a Fan of though!

But if we consider what a Neutrino Burst is, these types of Activity are NOT limited to a Super Nova... they can be detected from other Nuclear Activity that is happening in a STAR.  And so any other means to Produce the Energy on a Atomic Scale that a STAR has could produce Neutrino Waves too.

This could open up the Potential of a Energy Weapon/Technology that the Engineers or their Creators would use to Create STARS as some of Ridley Scotts comments seemed to be pointing to more than these Engineers just find Worlds that are Pre-Existing Rocks and then they attempt to Tera-form them.

@Leto

I think its a interesting idea, and i understand some Sci-Fi ideas like Paradoxes are Interesting, i am not a Fan of these being applied to the Alien Franchise, but if done in a interesting way, i would be open to it... and its a case of what would the Majority of Fans like.

I think when looking at my Topic, and Speculating what David would create, then i think indeed what if he Created some Evolved Humanoids that are NOT too far off our Engineers, not saying he created them...  but certainly seeing him Re-Create something similar... 

I think its interesting to see WHY he would do this, and what does he Teach those beings, about their Origins and Religion etc... does he opening tell them they were Human Embryos that he had Ascended to the Next Level of Evolution are are Superior to the Unworthy Race that Humans are?  Does he tell them about Humanity, does he paint them as Barbaric and a Threat... so does he have a Army of these Humanoids who are prepared to defend their world against Humans and Engineers, or are they brought up to be used for the Purpose of WAR against Humanity?

Or does he tell them NOTHING about Mankind, and Proclaim that he is their Creator and their is NO other Creator but HIM?   But for a Species who would Worship David and see him as their God/Leader, we then could ask things like.

What is the potential these beings see themselves as Superior to David and would refuse to accept him/serve him like he had with Mankind?

What happens when Humans or Engineers turn up and the Revelation that David has HELD their True Origins and his own from them?

These are ALL very interesting, but the Problem would be that they would be a bit of a Distraction from ALIEN, because Fans would want to get to the Bottom of the Xenomorph Origins, and WHEN/HOW the Eggs get on the Derelict, and would want to see the Engineers more than David and his World of Evolved Humans...

The expectation is there... and for this you cant blame any Fans because a ALIEN Prefix Prequel has set up to introduce the Xenomorph, and so it HAS to be introduced and i feel it WOULD be introduced... its case of would Fans want to have to have 2 hours before we get to see the Xenomorph Return?

So you have to have a Balancing Act to have such a Plot like this, but also have the Xenomorph Involved... and so any Movie Next would have to have the Xenomorph involved to some degree, and set up a more Heavily Involved Presence in the sequels.

If most Fans wont sit through a movie that has nothing to do with Xenomorphs, if this Disappoints, then its a Hard Push to commit to a continuation..   By Virtue of teasing a Direct Prequel route, you HAVE to have the Xenomorph play a role.

But as far as what you propose Leto... that David Creates the Engineers, in a way thats interesting Curve-ball, in another way it would maybe make the Creation of Engineers being about David, similar to how UN-ALIEN the creation of the Xenomorph was by David.

I would prefer David had Re-Created/Evolved his own Xenomorph, and David Re-Creates/Evolves his own Humanoid Super Humanoids....

Potentially say the Engineers Creators Return and use their Xenomorph and themselves vs Davids Xenomorph and Enhanced Children could be that WAR OF THE WORLDS that Ridley Scott hinted at.

Mankind are Powerless in this... but after these Races Destroy Each other.... Mankind Decide to Obtain the Weapons (Xenomorphs) for themselves could open up the whole Back Story to ALIEN and Special Order 937

But none the less Paradoxes and Ideas provided in this Topic are very imaginative and i applaud that.