The Engineers (Sub Creation)

There is something else which I am not sure Ridley has the skill to pursue. Good episodic story telling shows the audience the characters arc and how they react to to it. It is engaging and gets you invested in character.

When Elizabeth left in the Engineer Craft she was profoundly changed by her experiences and her list of questions were growing. Equally once David had been healed by Elizabeth and been shown such kindness that would have affected him. Both would have been profoundly changed.

So whilst it was a shame not to go where Ridley and Damon had riffed it was a shame that a really fascinating set of character arcs were snuffed out.  

Certainly she was a Very Naive Character, but you could tell that her Experience with the Trilobite and Loss of Charlie had a Effect on her.... she has NOTHING, she can not Bare Children (not in the Traditional Sense) it seems she has NOTHING to go back Home too and so for her its the ANSWERS that she wants.... and i think that Depending on those Answers could BREAK her and so her ARC could be Interesting... all she has is her FAITH and a QUEST for Answers.  So depending on her Answers or lack of Any then that could give her a GOOD STORY ARC.

With David in Prometheus he was a Interesting Character he is FREE from being the Servant of Peter Weyland, he is FREE from being Mistreated and so you do get the Impression that maybe IF he was Treated Well by People then he would NOT be a EVIL Character.

His Line to Daniels is Interesting "if we are KIND it will be a KIND world"

And so i think you could have had a Interesting Dynamic with Dr Shaw, he could have GROWN very FOND and Protective of her, while she could become WRECKLAS in her Persuit of her Answers even if this PUTS her in Danger.

Would David allow her to be PLACED in any Danger?

Maybe he would FALL for her? But how would such EMOTIONS be Handled by HIM and WHAT IF that LOVE is never Reciprocated?  

If she gains Attention from the BEINGS that they could MEET and then it seems to David that Dr Shaw has more Interest in them and NOT HIM and these beings have NO interest in David then could he become Jealous?

So there are Numerous ways they could have Evolved the Arc of their Stories and Dynamic, that SADLY we never saw in Alien Covenant but had Glimpses with The Crossing Prologue.

Sadly its a Case of would the CORE of the Franchise Fanbase want and watch a Movie that Revolves around those TWO?  Can you have a Movie where HALF of it is Dedicated to just TWO CHARACTERS?

You could but would that APPEAL to the Broad Fanbase and i think that FOX had felt the Fanbase wanted the Origins of the Xenomorph and to see our MONSTER back on the Screen and eventually take us to the Derelict on LV-426

There is a STORY there from when Dr Shaw had recovered Davids Body/Head to the Point when Dr Shaw ended up on that Slab of Rock.  While it may not be Quite what could have been DONE with the Story.. i feel there is a STORY there that would WARRANT a Novel.

It appeared there was some Shared Fondness between Dr Shaw and David but SOMETHING had Happened... that Ultimately lead to her as becoming a CADAVER we may get some Insight from Alien Covenant and Especially Davids NOTES...

To have him merely PLAYING HER all along and wanting to just KILL the Engineers and USE her for his Experiments i think is a COP OUT... i think there could be more to it than that.... i think seeing Dr Shaw make a Discovery and NOT want to be Part of a OFFER that David has for her.... leads to the FALL of their Relationship and the Seeds to he becoming his TEST Subject.

But YES it could have gone so much Differently had they Continued with what seemed the Plan in 2012-2013.

As for David.... i think that as of NOW (Alien Covenant) then it will be back to SUB-CREATION.... i suspect he would be going to Create/Evolve his own Children which is WHERE those Embryo's will come into PLAY as RS had said its NOT about the Xenomorph, but WHAT KIND of WORLD would David Create and about A.I (where he also referred to Replicants as A.I and so A.I can be Organic).

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There are things that are more interesting than if David has a soul. It might be interesting in itself but I'm not watching the Alien-movies for that.

Give me more about the Engineers, this is a way to expand the franchise with something that's interesting and alien. David is too close to humans and I'm not interested in that (humans versus androids). Keep the android as a side-thing but not a central part. The Engineers is a book, David is or should be a foot-note. Introduces other life-forms, and so on.

“I think the Engineers in Prometheus as a Clone/Genetically Engineered Sub-Creation of the Planet 4 Engineers does FIT with the Themes/Plot.”

I hear what you're saying but I prefer a good story over themes. The original Engineers should have looked more alien if those on Planet 4 were the originals, they were just disappointing and the themes don't matter if the story is disappointing. To paraphrase one of those on the Xenomorphing podcast when they had the episode on Alien Covenant “none of them look like Engineers they look like shit”. Maybe I wouldn't have put it like that but I agree. Alien Covenant is a mixed bag, that's also the opinion of many on the Xenomorphing podcast.

To link human history to the Engineers could be interesting but it still doesn't make it alright to make the Engineers on Planet 4 look like us. Who ever decided to make them look like they do should have made them more Alien. I don't want to single out any particular person but who ever decided that made the wrong decision. You can have a link between humans and the Engineers and still make those on Planet 4 more interesting and more alien because there would be a link anyways which could be explained by some smart writing and by having scenes that make sense. When I look at deleted scenes there were those that should have been kept in (again), the same as in Prometheus.

“ So YES it seems they have been made to be more HUMAN.”
Genetic variations among the Engineers, fine but don't make them like humans because it makes them less interesting. Those on P4 looked more human which I thought was boring and while I understand the idea it doesn't come off as good on the screen. You could look at other movies and find inspiration in them to make the Engineers more Alien (the Orchs in Lord of the Rings for example, or Voldemort in Harry Potter, they both look more interesting while still looking human-ish).

“... about Knowledge and Technology in Part, its to SHOW us these Engineers are NOT really Gods, they are Merely Humanoids who have the BENEFIT of being around for MANY MANY MANY Years more than us and so their Knowledge and Technology is WHAT makes them more Godlike…”

That makes sense but I still don't like the way they took with the Engineers. I wanted them to be more alien, I would have liked to see more of their society and so on but we were given disappointing Engineers that were there for just some seconds and a city that looked like a stone-hut or what ever (obviously I exaggerate). Unfortunately those things just added to the pile of disappointments in Covenant even though there are things in it to like.

“Our Engineers were supposed to be more Statue like…”

That would have been so much better, I wonder if it was a budget-thing to make them look like that. It would have fitted with Prometheus to use some CGI so they would look more like the one in Prometheus and make more sense of them.

“.... so maybe this has Changed from this being because they are GODLIKE to actually NOW being a Sub-Created Species much like David and Replicants are.”

Which is worse although I sort of get the point but that isn't to say that it's good to make them look like those on Planet 4.
I would like the Engineers to be found on different planets. If they've advanced technology they might be able to terraform things which is an interesting reference to Aliens. Could there be a connection there? Who knows, it's an interesting idea but I doubt that they'll explore that side.

Hopefully Disney will understand that the franchise needs to expand and that they should keep the Engineers but like you I'm afraid that they'll go on with more Xenos and pulse-rifles. We'll see if they will be allowed to do something new or if Disney will step in and we'll get a Star Wars disappointment.

“I think we will see the Engineers but i think they will CHANGE the Plot and Appearance of them.”

Maybe it'll be improved compared to Covenant? If that's the case then I'm for it. This doesn't mean that you can't have philosophy in it but I also don't want a Aliens 2 or a David 3 (if Prometheus was David 1 and Covenant was David 2). What I know is that I don't want what Ridley seems to want, namely more David.

About the Elders, maybe they didn't have the look but it made sense, to me that's important. I like that deleted scene which of course was deleted, maybe for some reason that I don't like and was probably for the worse. Maybe hint at some of it if you won't be allowed another movie. Don't save all the interesting things for later, show at least some of it to make people interested like an introduction.

The Engineers could have created mankind for many reasons, not just one. I'm not sure what that reason would be even if it would be interesting to get some for it.

Speaking of Weyland, it would have been interesting to see some more flashbacks between him and David in Alien Covenant. When David does X you get a flashback between him and Weyland that sort of explains his reason for doing so but don't over-do it. That would maybe have given us at least one other well-written human character in Alien Covenant even though it would have been one that wasn't featured that much but it would probably have elevated the movie.

“... or the Engineers could REFUSE to even give her any Reason.”
That would have been fun like, prrf you don't get an answer. :D

“This is in PART why they had a Tricky Plot to Continue…”

Maybe they should have ended Prometheus in a better way? By doing that you avoid the difficult task when you try to figure out where to go with the sequel. She would probably die very shortly after they reach the Engineers home-world but whatever, we don't need to see her again.

As far as why the Engineers wanted to get rid of us it's simple, just look at how mankind acts today. The Jesus-explanation is less interesting.

What's more important is where to go now? To put it short I would like for them to make new worlds, new life-forms, things that we haven't seen before, better made human characters and an end to the robot-story or stories (not more of them in the future). Scott said that it's about what kind of world that David will create, I'm not the least interested in that and also there are more things that they can expand on (like corporate greed, the Engineers, and so on) or even better introduce something new into the franchise.

I think the THEMES are Important as thats the Anchor Points the Foundation of the STORY but you need to then TELL that STORY in a Good Way.

With the Engineers we dont have much of a Explanation as far as Theatrically so for those who have ONLY seen the Movies then there is NOTHING MUCH given away about them and LESS SO with Alien Covenant

We have to remember the STARTING POINT for the Prequels was to give us more Information on WHO is the Space Jockey, more so as far as WHAT was their RACE and Intention with that Cargo (it also covered a bit about the Cargo but this was REDUCED down when we got to Prometheus).

So the STORY was to be about HOW can you Explore the Space Jockey and give them a STORY that we can Connect to Earth and this is WHEN they went for the CHARIOT OF THE GODS kind of Plot.

That the Space Jockey are the Creators of Humanity, and that they are Humanoid in Appearance to we can RELATE to them. Thus in many of the Ancient Cultures and Religions that DEPICT our Creators/Gods we see they are Mainly VERY HUMAN looking.... many accounts more so than even the Planet 4 Engineers.

some Cultures do depict our Gods as being TALLER than Humans and so THIS is what they went for. But in Numerous Cultures the Gods are NOT really any Larger than us.

So if we are looking at a Interpretation of ALL of our Ancient Mythos/Religion as far as our Creators.... then they do APPEAR to be Very Human.

Going back to the Concepts for Prometheus then some do look LESS HUMAN than others.  The Final Concept they decided on was to make them appear like Living Marble Statues. I dont think it would have COST a Great Deal more to make those Planet 4 Engineers look more like in Prometheus.

Bare in Mind that ONLY their Faces/Heads and Hands are shown on Planet 4, it would NOT have taken Vastly Longer to Paint them more Pale and even USE a Glossy Paint and then stick some Contact Lenses in.

And so i dont think that BUDGET had any Effect on HOW our Engineers looked.

I think the Biggest Issue is the SIZE but with Ridley Scott he did-not want to use any kind of SPECIAL EFFECTS like they used in The Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit etc  It is Plain to see that the Space Jockey is about 12-15ft Tall and this was WHAT was intended with the Engineers.

The Dead Bodies on Planet 4 and the Size of the Doors etc could have been made to look the RIGHT SIZE for beings who are 10-12ft Tall say. But to be fair the Doors did seem to be HUGE so it was merely the Bodies that remained a 6-8ft Scale.

The STORY is Ultimately about CREATION and WHY would you want to SUB-CREATE and its about KNOWLEDGE and HOW that such Knowledge can be a Powerful Tool, its about showing the PITFALLS of Creating something with Free-will and how this can lead to your Creation becoming Rebellious and Sentient.

From Inception its about a Ancient Humanoid Race who have been around for Many Many Millions or over Billion Years, and that this Race had ONCE been Similar to Mankind...  would have had Arts, Entertainment like we have, but they are a Race who Technologically Evolved and Genetically Evolved themselves too.  They then began to LIVE more Basic Lives of the Basic things to Survive and so their Technology was used for Specific Purposes to allow for Survival they likely Shunned Technology like the AMISH people.

They become more Ritual/Religious like a Cult.... they turned against TABOO and SEX as Sex is Basically just to Procreate and so any LUST or EMOTION that is Attached to this they had Abandoned.  So they Procreated by other Means and as they Evolved themselves they came to a Point when they had LOST the Ability to Procreate and YET they had NEVER Managed to become IMMORTAL.... so they became on BORROWED TIME.

They would Seed Words and Evolve Worlds, to the Point to Create other Humanoids in their Likeness where they would then Evolve them Over Time, both Technologically, but also with Knowledge/Customs and Genetically.  They Nurtured their Creations taught them Limited Knowledge (but NOT the FULL FRUITS of their Knowledge).

It seemed that the Idea was these Engineers were TRYING to Evolve themselves to Transpire their Mortality to become Immortal and then their Creations could Inherent all their Knowledge and Technology.

They could COULD-NOT go and Achieve this Transcendence to Immortality and so as a Race who could NOT go and Procreate they had to NOW go and SHARE the Cosmos with their Creations who given TIME and Knowledge could become a Threat, with the Engineers Knowledge and Technology then eventually WE could become the Gods....

It would seem we also then STARTED to NOT see WHY we should Worship and Serve our Creators, we behaved in ways that Offended them... and so this was a PROBLEM and ONE they had attempted to Address by Creating Weapons to Destroy us.

This PLOT has Changed as we carried on with the Prequels, but again NONE of it is Really Explored as far as ON SCREEN but the Basis is still there.

Creation, Sub Creating and to HOW much Free-Will you allow your Creations and the Hubris that your Creations will One Day go and Overthrow you.

With Alien Covenant we was NOT really shown much about the Engineers, which is a SHAME but with the PLOT there can be MANY WORLDS were we can Explore our Engineers.

And for those who are DISAPPOINTED.... they can Introduce a Race who are ABOVE the Engineers who Do-Not have to be too Familiar to Humans ;)

I would have liked to Discover a Race who are more Aesthetically Connected to the Space Jockey in Terms of Body Proportions but YES the Pilot should still be a Space Suit.

So what we have is a STORY about Sub-Creation....  The Engineers Created us (which kind who knows, depends if they going for the LV-223 and Planet 4 as being the same or a Sub-Creation of the other).  This Plot was Continued with David with him playing Doctor Moreau/Frankenstein and it seems likely we would have seen WHAT ELSE he Created Next.

So we are going DOWN that Creation Layer of the Cake.

Where as with Prometheus the SET-UP was to Discover what is UP the Layer of Creation, as Dr Shaw wanted to know... "who Created them" but Theatrically we NEVER got a Clear Answer.

Back in the Summer of 2015 it seemed Ridley Scott was still Interested in that Question.

“I thought the subtext of that film was a bit florid and grandiose, but it asks a good question: who created us?”

Well Prometheus had indicated the Engineers, so thats something we kind of KNOW unless he had Intended to Change that a Little?

He Continued....

“You’ve got to go back and find those engineers and see what they are thinking. If engineers are the forerunners of us, and therefore were creators of life forms in places that were possible for biology to function, who created that? Where’s the big boy?”

So this seems to Indicate the Engineers played a Role in our Creation and that WHY was something they was looking to maybe Explore....  But then there was that Question.... that someone/some Race had Created those Engineers.

But alas it seems things Changed before we got to the Final Drafts that became Alien Covenant, with that Movie there is NOTHING on Screen that is to SHOW that those Engineers and the Ones in Prometheus are NOT the same.  Ridley Scott had said they DID-NOT want to Meet God in the First Movie and with Dr Shaws intended QUESTIONS then it would seem our Engineers are merely a Sub-Creation by some other Race/Being.

There is NOT enough given to Prove if they are going for the LV-223 kinds to be a Sub-Creation of the Planet 4 kind, all RS had indicated was that the Engineers are NOT a RACE but a Civilization and so there can be some Diversity in their Appearance.  Also the LV-223 guys are the Military so they are likely Engineered as Super Soldiers.

so we NEVER really got more Depth/History to our Engineers, we NEVER had any Clear Indication as to WHO had Created Them or if that THEM applies to our Prometheus Engineers.

Ridley Scott has Confirmed the Engineers are NOT just Confined to Planet 4 and LV-223 and we would have seen them Return.  What he had given away and Chris Seagers is the HALL OF HEADS are the Hierarchy of the Engineers those who had Created the CULT/WAYS of their Civilization.

The Hall of Heads shows a Race who have some Diversity in their Appearance. Where are these Guys? likely LONG GONE.... would they have been TALLER than our Engineers?

Michelle brought up the Babushka Doll and so maybe the OLDER GENERATIONS of the Engineers are Taller?  even within the Abrahamic Faith it seems indicated that ADAM was MUCH MORE Taller than our Current Human Form.

I think it was a Missed Opportunity to NOT go and Explore the Layer of the Cake above our Engineers.

"If engineers are the forerunners of us, and therefore were creators of life forms in places that were possible for biology to function, who created that? Where’s the big boy?”

So YES i think we should go and Explore who the BIG BOY or Big Boys are.

Our Engineers are likely the Sub-Creation of someone else.

Alien:Resurrection takes place in 2386. W Y and the military are still running around looking for the perfect weapon, you'd think they'd be targeting Engineer / Elder technology by the 24th century....surely they have come across these aliens by that time?!

Maybe the Earth is dystopian and there just isn't any space exploration. 

I'd like to see more Engineers..... but after the year 2400. Don't have to be so concerned with the timeline. 

"you'd think they'd be targeting Engineer / Elder technology by the 24th century"

Yeah this is a PROBLEM when they went for the PLOT of Prometheus a Problem that could be SOLVED.... Provided.

1) The Engineers World that David and Dr Shaw went to was MUCH FURTHER AWAY than Planet 4, but then its HOW do other Humans from Earth reach such a World before the events of ALIEN.

2) Before we get to ALIEN then LV-223 is DESTROYED leaving the ONLY remnants of the Technology/Bio-Weapon on the Derelict on LV-426

Considering Alien Covenant then by the Year 2120 it would make sense that there is NOTHING to be had regarding the Engineers Tech and Xenomorph/Black Goo on LV-223, Planet 4 and Origae-6 by the TIME we get to ALIEN.

The Idea i had for where David and Dr Shaw would go was VERY FAR AWAY and they would NOT arrive until after 2150-2200, and so the AFTERMATH where some Engineers would then be on a Conquest to Destroy us would not take place until after 2300-2400, its left OPEN to bring the Engineers back say before Alien R or after Alien R.

You still have the Problem of LV-223 though.

When looking at some of the THINGS that Ridley Scott has said about the Engineers and Especially after AC.  He has said they are NOT a Race but a Civilization, and before he has said about JUST as there are Many Versions/Races of Man then WHY cant the same be said for the Engineers.

So he was looking at the Species having some Diversity, even Hinting those on Planet 4 are the Originals and they Live for about 200 Years.

So when we look at our Prometheus Engineers then they do look more like they were a Perfect Creation as far as ART, as in you have Made a Perfect Human Form from MARBLE and then Brought it to LIFE.

The HALL OF HEADS does seem to show some Diversity within the Engineers, there appears to be some subtitle Differences like you see in Star Trek with some of the HUMANOID Races... for Example.... Humans, Romulans, Vulcans and Bajorans.  These all have a Very Human like Appearance compared to say Klingons, Ferengi and Cardassians 

So there could be some Diversity where the Genetic Linage of the Engineers traces back to some Diversity of their Ancestors, they likely have Seeded the DNA of their Ancestors in different ways to Create Humanoids on Worlds who may have some Variety.

I will add that the Engineers that David had Experimented on and Drawn did look more like those from Prometheus than what we saw on Planet 4 (The Brows and Noses).

I think its OPEN to explore Ancestral Race above those Engineers, and besides i think the PLOT leaves it OPEN to take us to Worlds with Diverse Engineers Aesthetically because if we look back on Earth then we came from the Homo Species of which the Lineage of Homo Erectus is where we had Evolved from as well as Neanderthal Man also having the same Linage.

But you can see there are Differences between a Homo Sapien (Human) and a Neanderthal.  So if we can Imagine that there was a Number of other Humanoids that was in that Linage who along with Neanderthals had survived as of TODAY then you would have some Genetic Diversity and so WHY cant the same be said about the Engineers Genetic Linage?

But i think that MOST Fans want to see the RETURN of the Prometheus Style Engineers... the Living Statues.... aka Synthetic Looking.

I like the strangeness of the Prometheus Engineers. Would have loved to see millions of these types in AC.

The only thing humans in the 22nd century might want from the Elder / Engineers might be their star maps. This would save a great deal of exploration time and money. Humans seem to have everything they need. The desire for the 'perfect weapon' is really just movie plot nonsense.

"Would have loved to see millions of these types in AC"

The only Problem would be HOW would they react to David and Dr Shaw?  So then its a Question of would people had liked to seen THOSE GUYS... getting Bombarded and Dead ;)

I doubt this would be the END of the Engineers, i know that some would LIKE to see Engineers who looked more like those in Prometheus again and i think IF we ever saw any again then DISNEY would go back to the LOOK in Prometheus but i think they would be Portrayed as NOT much different to the Predators (Kick Ass and Ask Questions latter).

Regarding the Engineers Tech i think their Technology/Secrets and Knowledge is something that W-Y and the like would SURELY have more Interest in rather than to Pursue to the Xenomorph

UNLESS there is something to be GAINED from the Xenomorph beyond just that it is a Deadly Organism that can Wreck Havoc on a Colony, City or World that it is UNLEASHED on.

The Engineers Star Maps may be USEFUL but they are NOT much USE if we dont have the Technology to Explore their Maps.  But learn to USE or Reverse Engineer their Space Technology then Mankind has Access to Entire Galaxy and Beyond.

Surely something more Worthwhile than EGGS!

I'll go back to this one because it's interesting

"so we NEVER really got more Depth/History to our Engineers, we NEVER had any Clear Indication as to WHO had Created Them or if that THEM applies to our Prometheus Engineers."

There is a problem to not go more into detail in one movie even though the time is limited because if you give people too little about it and expect them to find out in a sequel there's a risk that people will be disappointed and not care anyways. Even though they wouldn't have cut it that much, there's a risk to do that.

Covenant made the Hall of Heads alright, even though we might not have been given an explanation to it. I would like to see how it would be on other planets that they have settled on. If the Engineers taught us technology and humans terraformed in Aliens then maybe the Engineers used terramorfing in some way before us?

"there are Many Versions/Races of Man then WHY cant the same be said for the Engineers."

I understand that but they should have made them more interesting in Covenant. Those two things could co-exist, they just have to try harder (Prometheus-reference). Different kinds of humans and different kind of Engineers sure but don't make them too similar because it removes too much of the alien-ness.

"But i think that MOST Fans want to see the RETURN of the Prometheus Style Engineers... the Living Statues.... aka Synthetic Looking."

Those, and other kind of Engineers but they should look less human than those on Planet 4. About Disney and the Engineers, I think that there are ways to do that but you got to think a bit.

"The Engineers Star Maps may be USEFUL but they are NOT much USE if we dont have the Technology to Explore their Maps."

There are probably ways to make a movie where that plays a part. I'm not sure what that would be but there is maybe a way to make that work. Would that be too much like Star Wars? Get good writers that can alien-ize that then it could maybe work.

"maybe the Engineers used terramorfing in some way before us?"

I think thats a Certainty i think with comments by RS, then its seems that NOT every World the Engineers Seed is able to Suport Life and so something has to be DONE to some Worlds that ALLOW them to Support Life.

And so YES that means some kind of Terra-forming.... but RS seems to Indicate that is NOT the Engineers who Prepare such Worlds... they merely Sacrifice themselves on these Terra-Formed Worlds so that Life can Begin/Evolve.

He implies those who CREATE the Worlds are the BIG BOY!

"If engineers are the forerunners of us, and therefore were creators of life forms in places that were possible for biology to function, who created that? Where’s the big boy? You think this was all an accident? I don’t know."

This was in September 2015 the Alien Covenant Drafts were Wrote after this, and this Comment was around the Time when RS had Announced the Next Movie is Alien: Paradise Lost...... but within 2 Months he then said the Next Movie is Alien: Covenant.

And so with AC we Never found out Anything much about the Engineers yet his Earlier Comment would Indicate we would PEEL the Layers Above them and maybe see WHO is the Big Boy.

HERE is a Interview that was done for AVPGalaxy were they Interview some of the Actors who Played some of the Engineers in Alien Covenant.

"Scott James –  The prosthetics were full face pieces including pieces around our eyes and the bridge of the nose. There was also extensive make-up over the whole face and feet"

This Indicates it was NOT just a Quick Paint Job and so to APPLY say Prosthetics more Defined like in Prometheus and add a more Glossy Paint would NOT have Cost them Considerably more Time and Money.  And so it seems they was INTENDED to look how they did.

"Billy Mansell – Now this is a good question! We worked with second unit that day and the second unit director wasn’t giving much away to what we really where but they did confirm we are Engineers! And the costume designer called us all “her Engineers” so we do know we are 100% Engineers but I do believe our origins is something Mr Scott is holding close to his chest… what I will say there was speculation that the Prometheus Engineers where more like a military type rather than our more civilian look I think all will be revealed if Sir Ridley gets his way and films the next one."

Confirming the Planet 4 guys were Engineers, the Civilization Kind which Ridley Scott had also Confirmed.

"Billy Mansell – It was never discussed why! Like I said in an earlier question this is something Ridley and crew never spoke about but I am in the belief that Mr Whytes character was more of a military type where my character was more civilian type! Yeah the eyes and skin are different but who’s to say it’s because the Ian whyte type is enhanced genetically for space exploration and combat? Who knows?"

Speculating that the LV-223 Engineers could be Genetically Engineered/Enhanced.  And i do think THIS is what Ridley Scott was going for.

Some of Davids Sketches showed Engineers who some appeared more like the Planet 4 guys and some more like the Prometheus guys but on Planet 4 some of them had more Similar look to Prometheus as far as Bone Structure etc and as Ridley Scott had said... there could be some Diversity in Appearance of  the Engineers just as there is with HUMANS.