LOST ON PARADISE by Alan Dean Foster
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MemberPraetorianJan-17-2020 9:40 AMLOST ON PARADISE by Alan Dean Foster
Alan Dean Foster has not only written most of the novelizations for the Alien films but he has also written for many other universes and can crush a person's face with his powerlifting hands. He holds records.
One very interesting thing found in his "Updates" page on https://www.alandeanfoster.com is a reference to an unfinished novel.
This update below is what I find interesting after the countless references to Paradise Lost in the Alien universe, specifically in the prequels, and now Alan Dean Foster is writing LOST ON PARADISE.
"1 October 2019
I'm 16,000 words into a new novel, LOST ON PARADISE. Taking this one a bit slower than usual because...well, explaining it would give something of the book away, and I never want to do that."
Is this novel about David on Planet 4?
David mentions Crusoe on his island to the Covenant Crew in an apparent reference to being stranded on an island paradise. The below image (enhanced) shows what appears to be David's studies logged before the Covenant showed up above Planet 4.
Could this new novel from Foster cover the time in-between the events of Prometheus and Alien: Covenant?
Additional Updates Worth Mentioning
"1 January 2017
I only met Carrie Fisher once. It was at the Star Wars Celebration in Anaheim, CA, in 2014. Del Rey had asked if I could attend to promote the reveal that I was going to be doing the novelization of THE FORCE AWAKENS. I was only able to attend for a day and a half and didn't expect to have time to do anything except fulfill my indicated responsibilities, but it turned out I was able to chat briefly with Mark Hamill again (regular guy) and meet a few other folks, including the gentlemanly Billy Dee Williams. My schedule was pretty full and didn't really coincide with anyone else's. I was determined, however, to try and at least say hi to Fisher, whom I had never met before.
I managed to ease into the very busy signing area where I politely introduced myself and asked if she would mind signing my copy of the original SW novelization.
As she was obliging, I tried to make small talk. "You know," I told her, "I've always thought of you as a writer who happened to act rather than an actress who happened to write". I'd read and thoroughly enjoyed her books POSTCARDS FROM THE EDGE and SURRENDER THE PINK.
She lit up immediately, all but jumped out of her chair, and planted me with one seriously emphatic kiss. Expecting maybe a quick "thank you" or "that's sweet of you to say so", I was more than a little taken aback ...especially since this occurred in front of a couple of hundred waiting fans, security personel, etc. And that's how I'll remember Carrie Fisher. Writer, actress, firecracker.
The novelization of ALIEN:COVENANT has been turned in and approved. I am working with Titan Publishing and Fox on what will be an original prequel to the film story."
I love this guy.
Paradise Lost, LOST ON PARADISE....maybe it could be an Alien novel.
BigDave
MemberDeaconJan-24-2020 7:56 PM@Ingeniero
I think that indeed any such Prequel to Alien Covenant would get Repetitive if it was just about David alone, and even with a Proportion of Interaction with Dr Shaw.
I think a lot of Fans were Hopeful to discover more about the Engineers, and so you have to think HOW can we show this.. Well what we have to remember is that David had LEARNED of their WAYS before he arrived at Planet 4, quite HOW MUCH he learned and from WHERE is interesting to Ponder.
But what we know for CERTAIN is that David would have had quite some time on Planet 4 without any Engineer Threats, and so he had become FREE to roam the City, to take a LOOK at every piece of Information, Manuscripts, Books etc of the Engineers. It appears they WROTE some stuff down.
Ridley Scott had indicated the Cathedral Dome Building where the Hall of Heads was located, was where the Engineers had STORED all their Knowledge. Such a place would be a Gift of a repository of Information for David.
So the Novel only has to have David come across some of this Knowledge and Begin to Read some of it, then we can CUT to a Flash Back Scene to give some details.
A Example.....
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INT. ENGINEER REPOSITORY
David walks among the Engineers Library of Information, seemingly Endless STONE STACKS each like Post/Mail Sorters. He takes out one of the SCROLLS and begins to read its contents.
The Scroll Tells of a Ancient Time maybe many MILLIONS of YEARS ago, when it describes this Paradise of the Engineers was a Virgin World. As David reads the History of this Place he discovers the Engineers Ancestors had arrived at this Place in the DISTANT PASS. They had came to START ANEW...
FADE TO..
EXT. PRIMORDIAL WORLD
Among the Clouds of this Very Familiar World we see a SHADOW and a RUMBLING like THUNDER. But this is NO NATURAL SOUND, it is MECHANICAL.
The OBJECT now comes into view, it is SHIP the VERY SAME KIND from PROMETHEUS... The SHIP casts a Shadow over the Lake that lies at the Bottom of a WATERFALL
The SHIP begins to Descend upon a FLAT AREA just of a RIDGE by the WATERFALL. They are TOUCHING DOWN.
Dropping behind the RIDGE to a RIVER DELTA - RUSHING WATER as we HEAR A TOOTH-RATTLING SOUND -- MECHANICAL. All of a SUDDEN a METAL PLATFORM hits the FLOOR.. CLANK!
THREE FIGURES appear at the TOP of the PLATFORM they are ROBBED MEN or so they APPEAR.
As they walk down the PLATFORM we see FOUR MORE start to ADVANCE from behind them.
We ZOOM in on the FIGURES HUMAN and YET NOT --- TALL about EIGHT FEET TALL at least, BALD with NO SIGNS of any other Hair. They all LOOK like OLD MEN, apart from ONE who appears to be YOUTHFUL
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I could go on, but the idea would be to show a EXTENDED Shot of the SACRIFICIAL SCENE with some Dialog between the Engineers to give us a Indication of whats going on. We then have the Engineers Return to the Ship and it RISES UP.
Then we go to describe the Engineers Last Moments, the LONELY WALK to the WATERFALL. We END this FLASH BACK as the Engineer arrives at the END OF the Waterfall and looks at the Sacrificial Bowl.
We then CUT BACK to David.
So you could use things like this to take us BACK to some Flash Backs for a Visual Explanation to what David has discovered.
Any dialog between David and Dr Shaw could have her ASK him something and as he goes onto EXPLAIN.. we CUT TO A FLASHBACK.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Thoughts_Dreams
MemberNeomorphJan-26-2020 3:41 AMIngeniero: Thanks! The same to you
I have not read the AC novel but maybe I could try to get it although to be honest I have not decided about that yet. I like that quote that you put there, I like that kind of writing. ADF has been writing for many years so I am not surprised that he is good with words at least that part is written well. You know how you can read pages in books when you look at Amazon? It kind of reminded me about that. Maybe it could have been better but at least it shows that David did not create the first monster. Just for that part alone I bet that the book is better than the movie. Maybe they could go through the novelization and try to correct things if they are about to make another one? At least they could try to correct the things that most people are not happy with but that is not to say that they need to listen to every little detail.
My two biggest wishes for the next movie if they will make one is:
• Better characters
• Do not have David as the creator of the Xeno because it is bad, lame, whatever word that you can come up with
BigDave
MemberDeaconJan-27-2020 3:08 PMI would hope NOT as far as discredit Davids work, as i stated above it would be IN-EFFECT doing less Credit to him, than what we got with Dr Shaw as a Corpse ;)
Unless they come up with some Good Detailed Reason and NOT A LAZY.... One such as say this...
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INT. CATACOMBS
As David wonders around the Gloomy Catacombs under the Engineers Cathedral, he DETECTS a Horrific Smell. Had some Engineers tried to HIDE here, but the STENCH does not smell like it’s from Dead Corpses that are DAYS OLD.
The Smell leads him down some Stairs and into a Damp, Dark Room, as his EYES SCAN the Room something in the CORNER catches his EYE.
LOW AND BEHOLD... David has discovered an EGG like the one from the ORIGINAL MOVIE, this ONE looks Withered Away.
DAVID "My oh my what have we here"
As he approaches it he caresses it’s WITHERED SURFACE and he Notices the Petal Like Opening that seems PARTIALLY OPEN.
He PULLS APART these Flaps to Reveal a Arachnid like Organism, the FACE HUGGER as he takes it out, it begins to HISS and Move with its LAST CLUCH OF LIFE it tries to SMOTHER David but then detects he is NOT LIVING.... This is the LAST ACTION that the Organisms makes, before it FALLS to the FLOOR and CURLS UP.
DAVID looks on AMUSED
"Impressive, what tenacity"
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But i guess as long as its NOT less detailed than that.
I think the BEST OPTION would be to have David responsible for the XENOMORPH as far as its LEVEL of Evolution at Present...
Have someone else come and EVOLVE his Creation, but that would leave us with the PICKLE that the Xenomorph Eggs on LV-426 are NOT there at least 17.5 years prior to ALIEN but there is a FIX that would sort this and KILL us TWO Birds with ONE Stone.. (Age of Eggs and LV-223).
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017