Alien Covenant: Concept Neomorph Design: Seventh Species

I like it! The carapace and mouth sans inner mouth looks much better than the bobble headed/no mouth Neomorph. Nice work!

Thanks! :)

Nice Work ;)

Wish i had such Talent ;) i have the Imagination to Conjure up some Horrific Abominations but Sadly they stay in my Mind as Pen to Paper.. ART wise well lets not go there lol

Thanks BidDave,

The creativity is always in your mind. No one can born with talents. I believe, you can do it. Because you have a imagination. :))

I also like that it keeps the spirit of the Neomorph's organic look and doesn't look bio mechanical.

Thanks dk :)

I really like this! Great work TITANPOINTE, I'm curious to see what other Alien beasts you can conceptualize. I've featured this topic so it appears on our homepage. Really dig the creativity!

Yeah, I just saw it now. Thank you so much Chris, in time I will make it more Alien works. I'm happy to here. Cheers!

Thanks Avensis!

@dk

The Xenomorph is bio-mechanical....and always will be. Nothing will change this for eternity.

H.R. Giger born Feb 5, 1940 - died May 12, 2014 Zurich Switzerland based an entire life time of art work on this one concept and you desecrate it with a few ignorant statements.

Please educated yourself and understand how RS got the final concept of the Alien monster that started everything in this franchise from H.R. Giger's art. Please no more you are disrespectful of artists that have done more in their careers and yet you disrespect them through blatant ignorance and what they gave their lives to achieve. 

You are not inventing and embracing the future so much as trying to erase all those who came before you. Maybe you should educate yourself before making such statements.

It would be like saying Picasso was not an abstractionist. He was just putting puzzle pieces together....please don't offend the legacy of H.R. Giger and other artists any more or their life's work.

BlackAnt What is mechanical about the OP bust?

@dk 

Please take no offense at what I said. I hope this helps you understand H.R. Giger's life's work in bio-mechanical art relationships.

Hans Ruedi Giger  5 February 1940 – 12 May 2014) was a Swiss artist best known for his airbrush images of humans and machines connected in cold biomechanical relationships. Giger later abandoned airbrush for pastels, markers and ink. He was part of the special effects team that won an Academy Award for the visual design of Ridley Scott's 1979 sci-fi horror film Alien. His work is on permanent display at the H.R. Giger Museum in Gruyeres.

The OP bust? you say? If we are referring to it in terms of how to interpret it visually I would say it looks like something that H.R. Giger made through his original depiction of this piece of artwork.

His artistic vision for the Xenomorph is a combination of biology and machines merged into one creature.

Do not get me wrong you can call artwork anything you want. Put any label you care to put on anything....You can look at that painting and the depiction H.R. Giger created and call it a basket of oranges. But do not expect people to take your interpretation correctly. How can they.

Am I wrong about this or is there similarities between that head and Venom? If you do not know how Venom looks like then you can try Google picture search to find out.

Hahah you right. Little similarity... "Venomorphx"

Certainly we all have HR Giger to Thank for the Iconic Design that we STARTED with.

However as each Movie came out the Bio-Mechanical Design from ALIEN, began to become less Mechanical with Each Incarnation.

With Alien 3 being where it started to look more Organic than Mechanical....  Alien Resurrections Differences can be put down to it being a Hybrid.

The ORIGINAL is still the BEST version though..

I feel what DK was looking at is that we have to remember with the Prequels we are Introduced to the Black Goo and Various Experiments on LV-223 which can Deepen the Number of Horrors that had been Spawned prior to the Bio-mechanical Horror in ALIEN (as far as Time-Line) and so this Opens up the Design and Concept for Various Organisms that are NOT as Mechanical as the Original in ALIEN.

As far as the ART then Indeed as the Franchise moved on, it seems to be LOSING little by little of that Aesthetic that HR Giger had given us...   The Franchise maybe should have TRIED to stick with that HR Giger Aesthetic... but then maybe the HR Giger Estate has a lot to say on that.

There is NO DOUBT that the Work that HR Giger had given us in ALIEN is really what made it all so ALIEN.... From NOT ONLY the Iconic Xenomorph but also the SHIP the PILOT....

With Future Movies who knows HOW-FAR we may stray away from that ORIGINAL DESIGN.... regardless the Design will ALWAYS be remembered as ICONIC...

A MASTERPIECE of Sci-Fi.

(May have made myself a bit of a Hypocrite now though lol)

@BigDave

Wrong! not even close old chap! Not even close....good try though I will give you some extra credit for trying to make some common sense out of this biomechanical stuff; however, it is important not to look superficially at things only skin deep.

I refute your claims that the other xenos, in later films, are more organic. Outwardly the appearance of the more organic look appealed to more audience members and was a marketing gimmick not in line with H.R. Giger's original idea about organics mixed with machines. 

It is time to take you to school BigDave! 

First of all art in many forms imitates the time period from which it comes from. For example you do not see abstraction play a larger role in art work until the early 19th century because physicists had not introduced ideas about extra dimensions and bending space until the early 19th century....then we get artists like Picasso and Salvador Dali bending things all over the place in paintings.

More to the point of what we are talking about, in reference to this symbiosis in Giger's work in the early 70's.

There is a physicist, one of the most famous ones of all, Richard Feynman. We still build every processor in the world today based on the nano composite structures of doped silicon based on "the Feynman diagrams."....In fact the Feynman diagrams are so important to all CPU designs you cannot build a CPU without them.

Please refer to this picture and read the Feynman quote.

So you see we build CPU's at the atomic scale atom by atom or in layman's terms nano technology.

Now lets not forget that the Engineers depicted in these Alien movies have science that is 1,000,000 million years more advanced than our "Nano-Technology."

So no BigDave they are not necessarily more organic....they may look organic but they are highly advanced machines mixed with organic elements if you want to follow RS and Giger precisely.

Which brings us to the final conclusion in all of this biomechanical business. When we describe things in the periodic table we do so by looking at how many electrons an element has....the electron, proton, and neutron are made of smaller particles called quarks. 

Quarks are made out of Higgs bosons spinning in a larger infinite field that permeates the entire universe. So just like an electron spinning around the nucleolus of an atom..deeper inside that atom you have the Higgs bosons spinning in a larger field of them giving rise to everything above them and everything you see around you.

Now just suppose for a moment that we take away these archaic notions and distinctions of how many electrons an element has and just go with what happens when we more fully understand and control a portion of the Higgs field itself.....Well you just might end up with these tiny machines like the black goo right...many new physical laws that completely rival the four fundamental forces we understand today in every way that matters most to all life.

Here is another interesting notion that Feynman discusses. He states how we might use spin state field mechanics to build quantum computers that do not use electrons to go from the source to the drain and into the bucket to complete the circuit....basic stuff right. So now we are getting somewhere.

H.R. Giger comes along and thinks things through in his contemplations through his art work and so we get this evolution of much smaller things at the atomic scale mixed with the organic elements....not too much of a stretch of the imagination for artists in the 60s, 70s, and all other decades forward.

You see the world around you today such as it is from these advancements in field mechanics, what we call spin state electronics - solid state physics....the way we have just begun to master the electron....the devices, the way the entire planet, our species is so dependent on the technology in a way that makes it essential to everything.

If you looked at an ANT, which would be us right now using these electron voltage regulated machines that yield us quantum Qubit computers in the next decade.

We are no where close to mastering the Higgs field yet; however, just imagine a future in say a 100 years from now and we have a society based on larger advanced Qubit computers tapping into a small portion of the Higgs field for computing.

A Higgs Field computer the size of a few dozen cell phones would have the computing power of the entire 13.8 billion and then multiply and expand that space a few trillion times more. It would be like filling that entire space with integrated circuits - just like the ones we put in modern cpu's today, the only thing is every transistor, in all the space is connected by quantum entanglement down to every last one of the spinning Higgs themselves and then everything above them all connected at once....well you would have a Higgs Field computer many trillions of times the size of the known universe, in computing power, folding space efficiently...something you could hold in your two hands.....what happens when we build a real big one....something the size of a building, all connected through quantum entanglement....a hyper dimensional crystal all connected all at once. What could you do with something like that BigDave.

You see BigDave what you think about these fictional Engineers being 1 million years past solid state physics, these movies, the art, the science, the real physics it is all based on...you might be lacking some rather important details.

Richard Feynman, "There's plenty of room at the bottom."

That is a lot of power at the bottom right BigDave.

With Respect to your Post... indeed Interesting Stuff.

What i meant was that Aesthetically it Appeared to get more Organic, but INDEED a lot of this may not be the Intention that the Xenomorph from ALIEN to ALIEN 3 for Example has actually became more Organic.. its just how it LOOKED.

It was NOT like Totally Different, it just looked LESS of a Machine than in ALIEN.. but as you said this is NOT to say that it is ANY LESS of a Bio-Mechanical Infusion.

In Alien R then the Supple Differences could be down to being a Hybrid.. maybe...

It would be Interesting to see what is your TAKE on the Deacon, Trillobite and Neomorph... compared to the Xenomorph in Alien and HOW you feel about the Xenomorph from AC which seems to lack that Bio-Mechanical Aesthetic aside from the Head.

BigDave,

I think they are all interrelated specifically by the black goo...what ever the Engineers constructed on the sub atomic scale to make the physics change I can only begin to try and extrapolate it into anything meaningful or relative.

In all honesty anything a million years more advanced than we are would be some "place else" meaning they would not exist in a way would could even detect them for hundreds of thousands of years.

Nor would such an advanced race of beings have any need to mess with anything on a scale of 13.8 billion light years after a big bang.....they are busy doing other things on a much much larger scale of interaction...they have computers and then they have really really big computers! 

I believe the Engineers should not have in any way been depicted as being a million years more advanced. They would have only needed to be 5000 years more advanced and still they would have god like powers compared to what we can do right now with our best tech.

BigDave I know you like good Sci-Fi and this is just a private side note....why are we not all posting brilliant stuff about TENET....I digress though where were we....oh yeah advanced Alien Engineers.

You remember that Star Trek film where Spock has the Red Matter.....its presumably a new form of matter contained by some complicated energy bonds and then just a drop is gravitationaly as powerful as black hole and yet somehow its stable enough to be around it until it comes directly in contact with matter.

Try and imagine these Engineers with Technologies just a few thousand years more advanced than the red matter....so anything they do with a sub atomic field would negate the need for Xenomorph anything. We have to have those plot devices though for obvious reasons.  

I wish RS would have just scaled them up more and made them 20 feet tall. We would have had a better suspension of disbelief and a more interesting visually striking movie than what ever that script writer he used to make the engineers shorter....dont even get me started on some of those useless executives for the budget and not really going with these much taller exotic Engineers....we got some small potatoes stuff in Prometheus...However every frame of the film is great except the script. The Fifield scene was not scary at all and needed some other treatment.

If the Engineers were supposed to be a million years more advanced, when David opens the container and puts a drop on his finger tip and looks at it....the drop would have instantly converted him and everything around him instantaneously sorta like the scene in Alien Covenant when the black goo is aerosolized above the Engineers but only trillions of times faster and with a lot more power as it converts the mass into even nastier stuff.....stuff you should never mess with ever.

We need to get that section up for TENET...all roads lead to back to TENET......To be continued if we can get a new Blog started for it...please do what you can.

Certainly who knows to WHAT EXTENT the Engineers Technology and Power was....

Are they GONE... is this all LOST?

I think you could not Comprehend what Technology a Race that has been around for Millions of years would have ;)

The Inception of the Engineers to when we got to Alien Engineers had Revealed them to Perceive things that our Eyes/Minds cant see.... with the Aim to Expand to Multiple Dimensions.

Indeed the idea was to make our Engineers to FIT the scale of the Space Jockey and be 15ft Tall..... they could have used some Special Effects to PULL that off...

But they chose NOT too... leaving us with 8ft Engineers.

I will say it could leave it OPEN to introduce another Species above the Engineers, and to had revealed these to be a Not-So Human looking 15ft Bio-Mechanical Race.

So as Example the 2nd Image we see in GREEN the Chair... and what if the Space Jockey is either Bio-Mechanical or its Suit is as such but it has NO HELMET... instead we have a being with a Elongated Head that the Chair Connects to the Head and then to the Suit with a Breathing Apparatus that then Connects from the Suit to the Face?

So our TRUE Space Jockey without the Suit could look more like some of the Unused Fifield Concepts.

I would Love to see someone with the Talents of TITANPOINTE come up with a Space Jockey ;)