Alien Franchise: What is On or Off the Table and Why?

dk,

Yes it is all too real! and so is the illumination of it! Why would so many go out of there way to hide so much from the masses....yes dk! YES FOR GOD SAKE YES THE DELIBERATE global mismanagement of it all those that go out of their way way to down play it.

Some of you are strong! Some of you outright deceivers!

You are so optimistic dk, I sure could do with some of that....it would be most welcome for a change.

Dhogmeat What is interesting for at least the Quadrilogy, is that some of the religion/faith themes were there but weren't too on the nose- A3 obviously was though. They were treated in a way that viewers could dive into and get deep in the weeds while others could see it more superficially while still enjoying the movies.

BlackAnt 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty5bXad0dZI

DK

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Do not give into the dark side!!!!

Everyone knows now don't they!

....why do you think the founder and owner of Rothmahnn Biokinetics Gmbh is named...

Thaddeus

Lucifer

Rothmahnn

That name was not taken from the previous posts, I named that character over a year ago when developing the origins of my Chimerans.

Imagine him offering an apple to a 5 year old Lyllith...

I may have missed such contributions but this is the first time I have seen a connection made between the Sars-CoV2 outbreak and Alien. 

I said some while ago that I went back and read my own work to see whether in the "all about everything" nature of the themes they had an application. I mentioned two but on reflection, there are more:-

1) The reason the story of Prometheus gets going is because of Peter Weyland's desire for more life.

The reason that mankind is seen as vulnerable as an entire community is that the Virus is fatal to the elderly who are being kept alive on an industrial scale in Aged Care Facilities, looked after poorly paid Immigrant Workers who with multiple jobs have in many locations brought the Virus into the workplace. Everyone dies in the real and imagined world.

2) Fifield the loudmouth know all cannabis smoking idiot is killed because he has no sense of direction. The Mutagen passed through his face mask.

If everyone washed their hands, hospitality had at-seat service and stayed at home when they were ill transmission would ease. Masks are meant to be worn by surgeons for 90 minutes to protect their patients. They don't work but why argue just wear them and ideally a face shield and gloves in enclosed areas?

3) Elizabeth driven by hubris goes in search of her Roman Catholic God.

In New Zealand and South Korea, cluster transmission has broken out in faith-based communities who argue with the science wishing to put their faith in God. 

4) In Part 11 Elizabeth and David discover that 'sin' is introduced into 'paradise' by tagging for control purposes.

The greatest experiment mankind has ever undertaken is under weigh with the introduction of the concept of Locking Down and tagging through apps. 

5) The denouement of part 11 is an argument between a rational approach which requires "Sacrifice." and a hubristic reinvention spurred on by confusion and delusion.

Sars-CoV 2 will play out it's not as deadly as Spanish Flu and kills between 1,2,3 times influenza. It is folly to think we need to destroy our way of lives to save a small number of people. The way forward is not a perfect solution it is the least worse one.

Elizabeth given the chance will destroy creation and remake it.

But to return to the beginning we think we are the centre of the Universe and can solve all problems we cannot we are a small footnote buffeted by disease, natural disasters and many other things. What we can bring to the dark confines of empty space is the ultimate paradox a love of one another. Love is essentially about putting others before ourselves. In my story in order to make the Origin Engineers remake their Covenant everyone intimately involved has to be sacrificed.

In the real world, we simply need to protect the elderly and comorbid and the rest have the right to either get on with their lives or not and accept that some will die its what we do.              

Clinging on to life, hubris and reordering everything is at the root of the real and imagined world.

Michelle Johnston

VERY well stated and extremely well thought-out!!

I still need to re-read it a few times...I'm having problems with comprehension--which is extremely annoying--so I am taking your post in small bites, but it's very intellectually 'Tasty'!

BWW

First my comment about your posts and now your comment in reference to to Michelle Johnston, about the consumption of thoughts gave me a moment of levity thinking there could be a monster lurking in this digital domain gorging itself off the more interesting ideas.

There was a story about big corporations some time ago feeding off of consumer data. I imagine that that same data monster could be here slowly devouring the more densely nutrient rich ideas LOOOOOL,

LMAO, here of course is what the other monster looks like and naturally it must have spawned others similar to it to feed off other internet sites.

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No Such Thing as 'immaculate Conception'.

Facehuggers are rape-machines, pure and simple...there's nothing immaculate there at all."

It's a metaphor.

Roger G Rod Serling is next level stuff even though he is long gone imo. Original TZ is still among the best. That episode shows how we still haven't really changed.

BlackAnt Some of you are strong! Some of you outright deceivers!

A little off track here, but it reminds me of the quote "By their fruits, ye shall know them. The world is the tree and I am the fruit.  So what does that say about the world?"

IMom, about 13 minutes long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cABjb6VA0p8&t=226s

DK,

These are all pieces to a larger puzzle of course.....I rewrote what I had posted previously....The continuity is clearer with some other important details raised.

IMOM is derivative, important derivative! The main purpose of that IMOM show is to demonstrate control to you and for you to covet the possession of a GOD LIKE power....we can call it AI or any name you want. Possession is the key element with which we all try to control our destinies through other entities; but what happens is other entities end up controlling us through our lust for more power. In our daily lives we control and possess objects higher quality, and interestingly enough now in this new age of illumination through so many computers we seek to  possess others vicariously by going there and projecting ourselves through the internet....the act of even coming into these chats could be understood to be a demonic act of possession as we understand what demons do demonstrably...I imply logically that the act of transcending our physical bodies to embody something else is a demonic act because we seek the control and possession of others through these other digital realms.

You believe all these people and businesses are telling you the truth when it comes to keeping your attention on the internet so will keep reading their social content, buying their products. It is all demonic possession literally. These other entities wish to control your every though implicitly so you crave their control over you...you willing are being deceived by design. Ever leave your cell phone at home?

The idea of possession - taking control of the power of heaven is the oldest sin of all - original sin. We are all constantly striving to control - persuade others through "the new digital domain" to make our lives more entertained, to be famous, and all the other demonic traps these digital domains provide so long as we are willing to sacrifice something in return for "true salvation."

Now I do not proclaim to understand true salvation...but I have faith in that exists without having to buy something...trade something for it or possess others in a way that would yield this quality.

In AC David never says or does a kind thing ever! His every move is extremely evil and sinful. Every thing he does is deceitful....I doubt if the makers of the film realized this quality about David....this is a most unusual aspect to the film...something extra-ordinary....and some would say super natural on other levels with parallels to the real world no matter how much of a work of fiction the movie is or is not.

The fact no one has ever brought this up until now is because this all meant to be hidden from all of you....those who really control you, when they possess you, remain hidden from you....and so it is with even a fictional David and his true motives in these very real movies.

Have no doubt in what I stated. You should ask yourself from which side of the gate do you see the world from and with what fruit is around you right now. 

Black Ant:

“... this is depiction of an evil God of some kind…”

You can probably draw comparisons if you want, doesn't mean that was the intention of those that wrote it. Cain was a person in the bible, Kane is in Alien, coincidence? I don't know but at least the names are close to each-other but then Kane is as little tied to the guy in the Bible as he is to a candy-cane, it's just that they sound similar.

“It is impossible for us to know what it has really taken from Kane!”

That kind of reminds me of the alien in Alien 3. It took traits from the one that it was birthed from (ox or dog depending on what version that you watch), interesting that you mentioned it even though I'm not sure if that was your intention. David in Covenant, yeah but I think that comes from Scott since he seems to be interested in religion. You can be interested in it from a cultural perspective but you don't need to believe in it.
“You all were meant to be here to have opened a gateway. You have all already opened this gate; but, a gate into what? You all have been deceived all of you.”

One could look at it like that but then it can be interpreted in many ways.

Disciples, Fox? That was fun :D

You mention the scene between David and Weyland, actually that was kind of interesting. Maybe they could have had more scenes with Weyland in it to show who he was, what he did before they went to the Prometheus mission, for example. Eventually they could have made him more interesting in Alien Covenant by adding those few extra bits in it so we could make more sense of him in Prometheus and therefore he would have become more interesting in retrospect and improved Covenant? These are just some ideas of what could have been done but it seems to be a moot point by now.

I've never looked at the horns on the Giger painting as being a metaphor for the devil, but it could be argued that it has some relevance but then I could be totally wrong. At least the horns look cool in that painting.

Thoughts_Dreams

All good points to be sure. The Fox corporate logo show you the lights "illuminating" or as in Lucifer the bearer of light. There are many more company logos with this illumination if you look for it correctly the path will be revealed. 

Disciples are believers...ask yourself the real question why you are here...about those horns...you ever seen any other depictions of angles with horns in any respect of any kind.

I always thought horns from the temple were for transmitting something....the many eyes are metaphors for computing....as in seeing the many routines. These are cyber depictions no doubt, and yes very beautifully done if I may say. Giger was a real master with bio-mechanics and the occult.

To say that no one practices the dark arts is well to say that the water is not wet. Many people practice various religions...why people would have a problem with these dark religions in these films is nonsense; but, I assure you, Giger's and Scott's intent was not to make the beast / BigChap appear angelic nor was it their intention ever to make anything associated with the alien safe in any way....all who come in contact with these demonic like things lose...

As far as what it takes from Kane, once again these are very complex metaphors. Language is a metaphor for a metaphor so you have to judge things by their actions...good is good - evil is evil...so forth and so on.

So it is in my best estimate we practice a type of dark art / religion when working so closely for decades at time with these films and what they really represent. 

I think it is ok to say you do not believe in any of these things....this may be a form of self deception....what if though? What if you are wrong - you are in a much different world than you have always believed....just because you see all the other people praying to one religion does not mean that the other is not worshiped in much different hidden ways. 

You really believe the masses know what they are witness to? Or do you believe everyone everywhere tells the complete truth at all times about everything in every way...and so it is with art and companies that produce it for the masses. There is more to this than you realize or you would have found it by now and understood it more fully.

Now of course a flashlight is just a flashlight....when you have thousands of companies putting this illumination in their logos those are not flashlights.....that is a Luciferian  cult!