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ChrisAlien: Earth ForumEpisode 3 Metamorphosis Spoiler Discussion

Okay, so first up, the episode ended very strongly – Loving Kirsh’s character arc, he’s overtaken Morrow as my favorite character. As expected he seems to have an ulterior motive and an intense fascination with the Xenomorph.

The dissection of the Ovomorph (Alien egg) was a fantastic scene, wrangling the Facehugger and extracting the embryo was really fun to watch and was executed very well. Harvesting Hermit’s lung to be used as an incubator for the Chestburster - I did not see that coming. Getting to see the Chestburster embryo for the first time as well at this stage adds some new depth to the Xenomorph lore as well.

Wendy clearly does have a telepathic connection to the Alien and its eggs… not sure how I feel about this yet. Is she going to fight “for” the Xenomorphs in the future? 😂 She seems to have a deep bond to them, more than Riley 8 ever had.

Now, where I complain is the Xenomorph “battle” if you can even call it that… for such a savage Alien, it didn’t use its tail once to attack Wendy when she had it by the second mouth. After using the tail very effectively against Hermit prior, I suspect the Alien was refraining from attacking Wendy due to their weird connection. But the fact she was able to kill it in a confined space really goes against everything we know the Xeno to be capable of. So it essentially let her kill it.

The peeking through the blinds scene was kinda funny too and should’ve shrouded the Xeno in darker shadows but that’s my main gripe. The fact it was strong enough to flip a shipping container over multiple times also - perplexed me. I know Xenomorphs are strong but that is… really strong.

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Dark NebulaAlien: Earth ForumAlien: Romulus vs. Alien: Earth Xenomorph suit design comparison
I wonder which Xeno would come out on top if they DID fight.. 👀

My vote would go to Scorched.

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Dark NebulaAlien: Earth ForumAlien: Romulus vs. Alien: Earth Xenomorph suit design comparison
Is the black goo in the DNA of the engineers and the xenomorph? If so, are we supposed to believe it is in humans?

To try to answer your question, Fede Alvarez said that the black goo is the root of all life, and Xenos especially come out of it and its part of them, and Engineers also came out of the pathogen, so that's why the Offspring had both Xenomorph and Engineer characteristics.

I guess that LV-223 Engineers were created using the black goo; the Planet 4 Engineers were more natural. So I think black goo has Xenomorph and Engineer DNA, which is why anything it mutates either has Xenomorph or Engineer traits, such as elongated head, biomechanical aspects, pale skin, acid blood, etc.

Furthermore, let's not derail from the topic.

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Neomorph Alien: Earth ForumAlien: Romulus vs. Alien: Earth Xenomorph suit design comparison

(large chunks of text disappear when I post😱) 

.....continued. Romulus stays on this path with the surgical extraction of the goo from the first big chap xenomorph (although this is a retcon as the idea of this goo never existed until the Prometheus script was rewritten and the everything-possible lore clay was conceived) 

With this in mind, the goo exist in xenomorphs IF you follow above mentioned films. As for humans or engineers I have not seen any lore hints suggesting that the goo is in the DNA although the goo can "rewrite" human DNA so maybe it was in our system all along.

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Neomorph Alien: Earth ForumAlien: Romulus vs. Alien: Earth Xenomorph suit design comparison
Is the black goo in the DNA of the engineers and the xenomorph? If so, are we supposed to believe it is in humans?

This is OT but according to the story in Prometheus and in chronological order, the Engineers created us using the black goo. Alien Covenant further built upon this creation idea as David 8 had been experimenting with the goo on planet 4 for several years until he managed to scientifically develop/grow the first eggs which as we know (and without spoiling for those who haven't seen A:C) lead to the first protomorph (predecessor to the xenomorph) 



So with this in mind, the goo exist in xenomorphs IF you follow the story in above mentioned films. As for humans or engineers I have not seen any lore hints suggesting that the goo is in their DNA in "present time" so to speak, although the goo can "rewrite" human DNA so maybe it was there all along.

Does this make sense? 

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ninXeno426Alien: Earth ForumThe Alien: Earth rock music feels very out of place…
I'm not sure of the connection yet but I'm assuming there's something to the music selections at the end of the episodes.​​Black Sabbath - The Mob Rules​Tool - Stinkfist​A quick review of the lyrics didn't reveal anything or I missed the connection.​ The imagery of Tool is very simpatico.

SciFiExplained on YouTube had a good interpretation of Black Sabbath. go to 24:06 if you don't want to watch the whole video

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Love SciFiAlien: Earth ForumAlien: Romulus vs. Alien: Earth Xenomorph suit design comparison

Is the black goo in the DNA of the engineers and the xenomorph? If so, are we supposed to believe it is in humans?

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Love SciFiAlien: Earth ForumHonest first impressions of Alien: Earth

If that's the one with Sigourney with acid blood, I hated it.

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Love SciFiAlien: Earth ForumHonest first impressions of Alien: Earth
Roy Batty

Watched this on youtube with the stunt man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N4JLplpe8s&list=PLIDyzBpnfjqkmoQqUBXKeRF7zmfLe3HT0&index=5

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Love SciFiAlien: Earth ForumHonest first impressions of Alien: Earth

The look the boy genius got from his female employee was the same look David gave to his "master" when he told him to pour his tea. Watch out boy genius. Is he supposed to be Elon Musk?

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ChrisAlien: Earth ForumAlien: Romulus vs. Alien: Earth Xenomorph suit design comparison

I wonder which Xeno would come out on top if they DID fight.. 👀

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Dark NebulaAlien: Earth ForumAlien: Romulus vs. Alien: Earth Xenomorph suit design comparison

The Romulus Xenomorph looks like a mix of the 1979 Big Chap and the Resurrection cloned Xenomorphs. While the Earth Xenomorph (that everyone calls Bear) to me looks like a mix of the 1979 Xenomorph and the Alien 3 Runner design. I prefer the Romulus design, though it doesn't mean I'd get an NECA figure of Earth Xeno. 

The thread thumbnail looks like they're about to fight in a boxing ring.

uploaded imageAlien boxing game, when?

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ChrisAlien: Earth ForumAlien: Romulus vs. Alien: Earth Xenomorph suit design comparison
🤣🤣 That Xeno is yoked to the gills!He's 100% natty! He uh eats raw liver.

​The Xeno Trens hard Anavar gives up 💪🏻

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Neomorph Alien: Earth ForumAlien: Romulus vs. Alien: Earth Xenomorph suit design comparison
🤣🤣 That Xeno is yoked to the gills!

He's 100% natty! He uh eats raw liver. 

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NCC 1701Alien: Earth ForumHonest first impressions of Alien: Earth

More of  a   back story of the Maginot ship ,  more info of there travels way before crashing back into earth   ,,,   more a story line . just hoping 

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ChrisAlien: Earth ForumHonest first impressions of Alien: Earth
how could you guys not loving the show. The chasing and killing scenes are all incredible lol oh yes, my favorite is the xenomorph moon walking by the door window

That was pretty good 😂 Although the rest of that sequence was pretty decent I will admit, the way the Xenomorph viciously broke into the room and tried to get to Morrow. I actually really liked that entire scene.

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BlazeSpecterAlien: Romulus 2 NewsAliens: Dark Descent Game Release Date & Gameplay Trailer

The new gameplay looks solid, I was also checking out the jenny mod recently and it reminded me how different mechanics can change the way you approach action games.

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Neomorph Alien: Earth ForumHonest first impressions of Alien: Earth
how could you guys not loving the show. The chasing and killing scenes are all incredible loloh yes, my favorite is the xenomorph moon walking by the door window

I guess you could say 


he's a smooth criminal.
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Neomorph Alien: Earth ForumAlien: Romulus vs. Alien: Earth Xenomorph suit design comparison

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(Xeno voice in her head)

"WOOOOOOO yeah! I bust my tight ass 'n' lift weights 10 hours a day 8 days a week! My starvin' Marvin brothers ain't got s*** on me cuz I only do alpha male s*** straight up dawg beach 2026 that's what's up"

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audaciusAlien: Earth ForumAlien: Romulus vs. Alien: Earth Xenomorph suit design comparison

omg, yeah. alien earth's has like a black leather feeling to it. it looks like a guy in a suit.

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audaciusAlien: Earth ForumHonest first impressions of Alien: Earth
how could you guys not loving the show. The chasing and killing scenes are all incredible lol

oh yes, my favorite is the xenomorph moon walking by the door window

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Neomorph Alien: Earth ForumAlien: Romulus vs. Alien: Earth Xenomorph suit design comparison

Holy s*** look at those arms! I don't remember the cgi equivalent being that bulky. Yeah I prefer the Romulus one by far. The Earth one looks like an impressive cosplay suit. 

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auximenesAlien: Earth ForumAlien Earth asks the quintessential question no one has answered for decades: How Would Child Soldiers Fare Against Xenomorphs.

Cavalier is totally Musk-adjacent. Also 'cavalier' could be used to describe him.

​Company name is Prodigy ---> boy wonder.

​All of the Synthetics are named after Peter Pan characters and of course the place they were created was called Neverland. We don't know why Peter Pan is so important yet though do we?

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auximenesAlien: Earth ForumThe Alien: Earth rock music feels very out of place…

I'm not sure of the connection yet but I'm assuming there's something to the music selections at the end of the episodes.

​Black Sabbath - The Mob Rules
​Tool - Stinkfist

A quick review of the lyrics didn't reveal anything or I missed the connection.​ The imagery of Tool is very simpatico.

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auximenesAlien: Earth ForumCan Wendy communicate with the Xenomorph?

The Xenomorphs are supposed to be biomechanical right? Maybe they put out some kind of electrical noise or interference? She could either be picking up on the Xeno directly or if it's creating a disturbance in the various computer systems the Xeno is passing by.

​The other Synthetics don't appear to notice it. What makes her different? Maybe she originally was born with some kind of sixth sense and that carried over into the new body?

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auximenesAlien: Earth ForumHonest first impressions of Alien: Earth

*spoliers*

​I think it's pretty good so far but I have some critiques. I agree a little less being introduced at once might have been a little better. And jumping around in time is something I rarely enjoy. The short foreshadowing bits where they showed things like the full Xenomorph I think were unnecessary. Biggest complaint: THEY KILLED THE ORANGE CAT! BLASPHEME!

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Love SciFiAlien: Covenant ForumFINAL SUMMARY OF THE ENGINEERS' STORY
I wouldn't mind an alien-movie that has the Engineers in it in some way, that would be cool but they need to get the characters right.

That's what I am hoping for. What is planet 4?

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ninXeno426Alien: Earth ForumA timeline
Thank you Neomorph for the timeline. Now for more of my next questions: If the xenomorphs and other creatures were already on Earth, why didn't anyone know about them? Why was Ripley's crew sent to that planet when the company already knew about those creatures? Who was that astronaut they discoverd and why did he have eggs in his ship? How did Ripley know he wasn't from that planet? What about the predators hunting expedition with the xenomorphs down in the ground underneath the pyramid? I wish they would just tie all the movies together. I have a gazillion questions and I would enjoy the movies and tv show more if they wer answered.

AVP is never going to be canon, not with Ridley Scott around. You can let that one go

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Neomorph Alien: Earth ForumCan Wendy communicate with the Xenomorph?

I think she's a good actress btw. More of her and less of the other adult childroids who aren't nearly as interesting as Wendy. 

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Neomorph Alien: Earth ForumA timeline
@Neomporph, That timeline is incorrect, they have changed it since. Alien Earth is set in 2120, 2 years before the events of the original Alien. (To be fair to you, the timeline has changed a few times)

Oh, I had no idea. Could you delete it? I can't edit my posts yet. 

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SvanyaAlien: Earth ForumWeyland-Yutani employs Cybrogs? Since when. Should have kept their tech exclusively Synthetics
Potentially old tech arguments, but the Cyborg seems quite advanced compared to the David 8 model developed 35 years AFTER the Maginot left Earth. You would think David would have been an advanced Cyborg as well if it was the “tech of the day”. This is why continuity matters and why I’m sad continuity doesn’t seem to matter for this series. 😔

Well, no Morrow is not more advanced than David. Morrow is just a human with some tech implants/upgrades and a cybernetic limb, David is a full on android and is completely artificial in construct. 

There have been some cyborgs in the comics i'm pretty sure, though the comics are not considered canon.

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SvanyaAlien: Earth ForumCan Wendy communicate with the Xenomorph?

I think she can, yes. At first I thought her wincing in pain and holding her ears was a sign she's rejecting her Synth body, like in Westworld, but now I believe she can communicate with the Xenomorph. It's something that was in the comics, I know they're not canon, but still, it's been done before.

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SvanyaAlien: Earth ForumA timeline

@Neomporph, That timeline is incorrect, they have changed it since. Alien Earth is set in 2120, 2 years before the events of the original Alien. (To be fair to you, the timeline has changed a few times)

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Love SciFiAlien: Romulus 2 NewsDavid's drawings of Shaw and his experiments now online!

Hated Shaw and her boyfriend. She was responsible for the deaths of her crewmates which she clearly thought were way beneath her. Her stupidity and demands that no weapons or security be brought on the trip were the reason 2 men died. Hope they don't bring her back.

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Love SciFiAlien: Earth ForumA timeline

Would like to see a Covenant 2 movie so we can find out what happened to David, the 2 crew members, the people literally hanging out in the other room, and the frozen human embryos. Would also like to see the engineers, find out who and what they are, and why they wanted to end life on earth with the black goo that got them instead.

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Indoraptor1++Alien: Earth ForumWhy did the xenomorph leak on two different individuals without causing any burns?

The drool is probably not acid. Dallas found some drool in teh first movie and was ok and also some marien found drool in Aliens and was fine. The monsters probably vomit the hive secretion but its not acid either but very sticky.

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