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I really hope that if there is an alien 5, it would ignore the events of alien 3 and resurrection

I hated the movie where Ripley was a thing and fell into a womb. It was yucky as hell. I wish they would  bring back Hicks and Ripley as a couple. I would love it if they tied the other movies together somehow. In rnAlien, the 2 different planets confused me, the alien who had his chest rnblown out confused me. Was he the only one and where was the xenomorph rnthat exploded out of his chest? Too many unanswered questions stating with the first movie, Alien. 

There are a couple of other directors and writers responsible for the other episodes so fingers crossed it'll be a bit different ahead. It may need a shove in another direction for change, switch tracks and let's see what happens. Just give me one or two memorable episodes at least 😆🙏

I have watched both episodes three times and honestly, I think i'm going through the stages of grief over this series. Currently, i'm in denial... Thank god for Timothy Olyphant is all i'll say, Kirsh is my fave character, along with Morrow. All the actors are good, imo. I really enjoyed the Xenomorph, some people didn't like it, but I thought the movements it did were great, the actor that was in the suit is incredible.

It's not terrible, but so far I am underwhelmed to say the least. I'll try and keep an open mind and enjoy the rest of the episodes but to me something is off and I can't explain it, it's like "Temu Alien", if that makes any sense. I subbed to Disney+ to watch and support the show, *cries*. Oh well, at least I can enjoy the other Alien movies there, lol.

It's probably just the old tech they used before switching to Androids, the Maginot was sent away 65 year ago. Obviously, at the end of the series, they're just going to say Weyland-Yutani won the corporate war and these other companies got bought out or dissolved, failed, whatever.

I just finished Ep.2. Holy cow it is so good. The Party scene is so mad lol.

​I love also the siblings reunion. Both characters are fantastic and they are so going to protect each other. 

ALIEN EARTH is going to be a hell of a freak show. 

I'm really curious to learn more about the engineers—who they are, how they lived, and how they fit into the bigger picture.

Is he an android like the one in Alien?

When I saw Alien, I was 15 years old and it was 1982. That's when I wanted an explanation above all else. And when I saw Aliens, I was excited at first. Hooray for action, combat, explanation. That's what the success of Aliens is based on. JC knew exactly what he was doing.rnBut as the years went by, I, who loved Alien despite my initial enthusiasm, suddenly understood the tragedy that Aliens caused for the original Alien.rnRS quite deliberately left out the explanation. Alien is a de facto gothic horror film. Humans have no chance of survival, although they don't know it at first. The audience doesn't know why or what it's all about. And that's the amazing thing.rnThere's a spaceship. Who built it? When was it built? We'll never know. There's a dead pilot. Something killed him from the inside. No other crew. The next storyline will explain why. If Nostromo hadn't taken off, the situation would have repeated itself. A dead body with bones outside and no one around.rnNow that I think about it in the discussion, it's better that Alien didn't include the scene with Dallas and Brett's cocoons. It left a mystery. By the way, the alien ship wasn't carrying eggs. Kane clearly says "It's a cave, hot as the tropics". So the alien ship landed over the egg cave instead of the pyramid.rnIt's a good thing there were no hints. It remained a mystery. I think Ripley's words "they probably wanted the monster for the armaments factory" is a deliberate hoax. The command in the Mother is not to fly to a specific planet. It's a command to investigate ANY source of intelligent life and import a sample. Unfortunately, Aliens uses this phrase to build a story to confuse the viewer.rnAlien is a polished gem, and anything extra already cancels it out. Even the cocoon scene. The goal is total mystery. No hint of explanation.rnThere's a similar case in the history of literature. E A Poe and his book on A G Pym. The hero reaches the South Seas at a time when the existence or size of Antarctica was unknown. And when the mystical atmosphere is at its peak a giant white glowing figure appears and the book ends. That's all we learn.rnJules Verne did not understand this Poe's idea of deliberately not revealing the point or wanted to capitalize on it and wrote the novel The Ice Sphinx where the expedition to Antarctica explains everything. The death of Pym, making a mystical figure into an ice stump looking like a sphinx, etc. Someone was happy and the explanation.rnBack to RS. The creation of Prometheus and Covenant were his biggest failures. He decided to suppress the other movies of the original Alien and shattered the mythology with more nonsense than one would expect. He got tangled up in his own thoughts and got stuck in them.rnYes, Aliens was the gateway to the creation of the Alien universe. Hence the many video games, comics and various sequels, etc. For me, Alien will always remain as a one-off. Untouchable. Mount Everest. And everything around it whether Aliens , , Alien 3, AvP or Covenant are just avalanches that have fallen from its slopes. The mountain would remain a mountain even if a thousand avalanches fell from it.rnAll the attempts to figure out "how it was" are the acts of children who want to know more and so they make stuff up. Fabulating. Usually to their own detriment  rn1) Where did the eggs come from in the cave? We don't know.2) why and where did the alien ship come from? We don't know. 3) Was the Alien intelligent or was it driven by perfect instincts? We don't know.rnThe sad thing is, after Scott built such a perfect structure, he joined the others who tried to destroy it for money. To no avail. In this, Alien is truly indestructible and has infected countless writers and audiences even without eggs. And it remains what it was meant to be. A mystery.

I'm still completely baffled by the movies and really wish they would rnfind a way to connect them all with some clear explanations. It would bern great to finally make sense of everything.

It's not just you, the music completely took me out of both episodes, just ruined the vibe. I think i'm going through the stages of grief over this series, so far I am underwhelmed to say the least. Currently, i'm in denial... Honestly, Romulus is a masterpiece compared to this.I guess everyone praising the series never actually watched an ALIEN film 😂 showing the beast in all its glory in the first few frames and transitioning with guitar / rock music is NOT on brand for the franchise. The music should be eerie, somewhat nonexistent at tense moments. Alien: Covenant did a much better job and even Romulus too for matching soundtrack with source material. Alien: Earth has some making up to do.

Not a fan of the music either.

The tradition of getting too close to the ovomorph and peeking inside continues.

Roy Batty

Is Timothy Olyphant a robot? Why are his eyes so weird? He's a good actor but I don't understand what he is in this series.

He's an android and a Roy Batty ripoff from Blade Runner. 

Aliens is an excellent film, and not just for the action sequences. You’re knee-deep in memorable characters, for one thing. To see Burke’s eyes darting about while he schemes is nothing to do with popcorn. You’re not going to spot that on the first viewing. I have watched Aliens numerous times. The dialogue is generally outstanding and - for its time - the special effects are pretty good.rnThe only things I really don’t like arern- rear screen projection, which is all too obvious at timesrn- the mushy conversation between Ripley and Newt when she’s tucked up in bedrn- timing error when Burke gets surprised ahead of the vocal he reacts torn- the Queen peering around a corner at Ripley - not convincingrn- Newt calling Ripley “mommy” near the endrnSmall niggles for a great movie. There are just too many good things to mention to make Aliens a bad movie.

I almost forgot Hudson. He made me laugh, especially when he was addressing his commanding officers. Wish he survived the movie and he was still around. R.I.P. Bill Paxton.

I'm not the biggest ALIENS fan...But it's a AWESOME movie.rnI'd reboot it in a second and change much of it....BUT It's my go to action / popcorn flick by a country mile!rnWish I could watch it on the big screen again ( and in 70mm FILM not digital! )

Aliens was my favorite movie. Loved the marines and their affection for each other, the developing love story between Ripley and Hicks, how Ripley showed a maternal side, and Apone was a great drill sergeant. I watch it over and over.

I'm sure the Offspring has Engineer DNA, I think they made it clear: they found the black goo ampules on LV-223.

Don't understand the black goo at all. It appears in more than one movie but they don't explain exactly what it does. 

Liked the movie, couldn't stand the doctor and her boyfriend. Hope they don't bring her back.

I like science fiction and I read the book before I saw the first movie.

I just watched Aliens again and when Bishop was in the lab with the marines, he mentioned an embryo. So, if it's an embryo, shouldn't the xenomorph be completely alien? I always thought that the face hugger impregnated whatever it came in contact with. That's why I don't understand why the brother in the show Alien Earth wasn't attacked and killed. The xenomorph killed the pilot and co pilot. Also, the eggs were smaller than David's eggs.

Is there a difference?

I hope they explain everything before the season ends. Hate cliffhangers. I'm very confused about every Alien movie and now TV show. They don't answer questions. Like, How did two people have the alien dripping on them, but they didn't burn from acid blood? This has been answered by some of you. Thank you. I'm still confused about the black goo.

I can't recall the details but wasn't it xeno drool and not it's acid blood? The former isn't corrosive I think. 

I myself not particularly fond of the Alien mimic opening, especially the waking up scene. The original is just so classic but the Alien Earth one looks so hurried and contrived, without adding anything fresh. I kinda like the scene from the mother room though. 

Do you think we will get an episode of showing what really happened on USCSS Maginot ship? There are lot of ''flashback" during the opening and I don't really know what were those about. 

I agree with some. The visuals were very good, but overall it doesn't feel like you're watching an Alien show. Even with the nod to the movie at the beginning of Ep 1. We immediately start with exposition dump, adding a bunch of new stuff to the franchise which becomes the main plot. It’s a generic sci-fi drama that just happens to rent xenomorphs for brand recognition. They’ve stripped away the xenomorph’s defining traits — the acid blood, the lethal speed, the predatory intelligence. It was the most dangerous lifeform in the galaxy, and it now struggles to even catch an average human. 
​We’re meant to take seriously a ‘search and rescue’ mission crewed by rifle-toting grunts and kids piloting adult-sized synthetic bodies. It all feels oddly Disneyfied — sanitized and softened — which might work fine in a generic sci-fi adventure, but it’s a tonal mismatch for Alien. Honestly, I’d probably enjoy it more if they’d just drop the Alien branding entirely.
​I doubt things will change much with the next episodes. I'm sorry for the negativity, I really wanted this show to be good with all the hype surrounding it.

The xeno's blood has consistently been shown to be a highly corrosive acid throughout the extended alien universe, therefore I believe we have to assume that the "leak" is a bodily fluid other than blood. In Aliens the xenomorphs made a hive probably out of some bodily secretions and they also held victims captive with some type of sticky goo in the hive.  Perhaps this is what the xeno leak in the TV show is. 

I just finished Ep.1 and I quite like it so far. Very good visual and the overall tempo is good. Acting from all the major characters are great too, especially Kavalier. He is phenomenal. I think he is gonna kick ass in the whole show.

Overall I am glad it lives up the hype and it's definitely not a mess. I give a solid B for first episode. 

What piqued my interest was the first film on vhs back in the mid 90s although I was way too young to watch it at the time. The thing that stayed with me the most was the antagonist itself, primarily its unique design but also how utterly violent and unstoppable it was. Unlike anything else, it was equal parts terrifying and as Ash would say: "fascinating" (a testament to H.R Giger's phenomenal talent for art and the whole film crew's amazing work) 

What followed were the other films (Alien Resurrection being the first one I thoroughly finished) the Dark Horse comic books (personal favorite being Aliens: Alchemy from 1997) and the games, especially Alien Trilogy for the PS1.

I'd say I became a dedicated fan around 96-97 and have been every since thanks to how strong the franchise has kept going in regards to the amount of games, merchandise and films.

Long live Alien!

I hope they start delving into those other monsters that were onboard before the season ends. Who knows how long we'll have to wait for Season 2.

Did Wendy adopt her name as a tribute to the boy genius who read 'Peter Pan' to them every night? Is he intended to represent Elon Musk?

Thank you to everyone who answered that question that was bothering me so much.

I wish they would put all the movies together. I find it very confusing.

I have so many questions. One at a time: How come the xenomorph leaked all over the man in the spaceship and the teenager and their faces weren't burned with acid? Thank you for the answers. I appreciate it.

For sure Chris, it's all a cluttered mess. I did like Morrow as well, he played the cold and calculated W-Y android perfectly. We've seen this concept before but at least it's tried and proven to work given the right script and actor to play the android (Ash, David and reprogrammed Andy with the W-Y protocol chip, the latter being my favorite android btw.)

Also, maybe it would be slightly better if they focused the series or at least these two episodes on fewer characters to flesh them out more, and limiting the environments to one place? Either on the island, or on the ship prior to or after the crash? At least not shifting back and forth so much as it kills any suspense a scene sets up. 

Damn it, with these episodes in mind I'd even be fine without the xenomorph appearing so early, but instead they had to cram so many things (way too many characters and organizations at once) and complex ideas (child minds transfered into adult bodies, an autistic brother, references to Blade Runner existentialism) within two hours when it would surely be more suitable when spread out through several episodes or even seasons.

That being said there are still remaining issues but sometimes less is more and it can offer a better and more coherent experience. There's absolutely nothing wrong with either keeping it straightforward or simple but I feel writers nowadays by themselves or especially together (and too many chef's usually spoil the broth) have so many grand ideas that I'm sure sounds cool or interesting in their heads or even on paper but doesn't flow or come out as nicely or smoothly when actually filming, particularly to the audience. We cannot always understand the vision the storyteller wants to tell us and without sounding too harsh it's their job, similarly to comedians, to convince us and keep us engaged in the end. 

As for Disney, well Star Wars, Marvel and even their classic beautiful and beloved cartoons have been tarnished by themselves and it's mind-blowing how they still haven't changed track. 

It's hard to pace ourselves since this is episodic. Hopefully by the end of the season I see the purpose for everything and it comes together in a interesting way by season finale. Unfortunately so far it is very underwhelming. I made sure to see NOTHING except for some promotional stills and the first teaser trailer or two. So I had a clean slate (except for one spoiler about one of the creatures)! Still didn't help this feel fresh or interesting. I also have to fight through how Alien adjacent this feels. Especially since Romulus came out and did what I like (tie it all together even if it was bit much in that regard). Plus I'm not used to the FX TV kind of look we have here and it's tough to get past. I am not a fan so far, but am trying to just take it easy and let it do it's thing and then we'll see 

I'm in the same camp, Neomorph. I wanted to be blown away by this and the critical hype building for the show really had me convinced this was going to be a knock-out. But beyond the initial cryo wake scene which felt very Alien, everything since felt like incoherence. The VFX and sets are phenomenal though - production value is definitely there. But, the writing and score are where it fall short for me. I'm not a fan of the child-minded Lost Boys - like you said - they're not consistent with their behaviour. Kirsh is great, Morrow is great but I just can't get into the rest.

ALSO - How anticlimactic was Hermit's reaction to realizing his sister - who he thought was dead - is revealed to be embodied in a Hybrid body?! You'd think that would have been groundbreaking and a major shock... But he seemed so indifferent to learning his sister is alive. 

Makes me wonder what 2 episodes the rest of the critics saw before the show debuted which prompted them to tout this on par with James Cameron's ALIENS - cause this certainly weren't the two episodes we've seen so far.

I don't want to sound like a buzzkill either - but I love this franchise and I just don't want it to meet the same fate Star Wars and Marvel have met since Disney's acquisition... 

It's not just you, the music completely took me out of both episodes, just ruined the vibe. I think i'm going through the stages of grief over this series, so far I am underwhelmed to say the least. Currently, i'm in denial... Honestly, Romulus is a masterpiece compared to this.I guess everyone praising the series never actually watched an ALIEN film 😂 showing the beast in all its glory in the first few frames and transitioning with guitar / rock music is NOT on brand for the franchise. The music should be eerie, somewhat nonexistent at tense moments. Alien: Covenant did a much better job and even Romulus too for matching soundtrack with source material. Alien: Earth has some making up to do.

Well said and I'd argue that the soundtrack is an especially integral part of the alien franchise after Jerry Goldsmith set the bar sky high with the iconic and bone-chilling themes in the first film. Following Alien, all films in the franchise have had impactful and fitting soundtracks for what they represent in their respective moments. They dropped the ball completely with the soundtrack in Alien Earth. 

***Spoiler free first two episode impressions***

Just finished watching the first two parts. I really tried to like it, I really did. The production value is high, the xenomorph is properly terrifying just like it should be, and I like the inclusion of new dangerous alien life forms. Set props and practical environments are convincing and so is the cgi for the most part. The issue then?

The writing. Again. 

There's no real tension, nothing gets your adrenaline pumping. In part because the series shift scenes back and forth at times between the crashed spaceship followed by a search and rescue team- which I'm sure is supposed to be "tension building", to moments where we follow our protagonists lead by Not Battle Angel Alita (yes she has a katana which means Japanese sword) and her group of synths (androids?) in scenes that doesn't only gear down the revving machine but completely halts the previous scene because the tone is completely different.

Imagine watching a horror film where people enter a spooky abandoned building? The scary ambient music sets the feeling and they proceed down the basement....

You want to see more right? Well let's shift to the the Derek Zoolander Center for Adult Child Androids who Can't Read Good, and hear them pondering about things because that's how you keep the pacing!

So anyway, what do these synths have in common? They are indeed adult size humanoids with minds of children(!) I'm not joking. Regardless of the concept and similarly to the writing, it's not coherent. Sometimes they act with expected childish curiosity and sometimes the script forgets this. Even worse are the decisions made by some characters and moments so bafflingly stupid I couldn't believe what I was watching (which I can't reveal without spoiling too much) Add a lot of unconvincing acting, odd story aspects and we've got what I can only describe as another mess in the alien franchise.

Granted, this is only two episodes in but I doubt it'll change its qualities, or rather lack of.

I hope you enjoyed it more and I promise I won't rain on your parade. These are just my two cents.

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Thanks Chris for fixing the bugs. Looking forward to all the great new updates on this forum.  I am going to watch ALIEN EARTH now  : )

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Should all be fixed now 🙂 There were some last minute formatting bugs I’ve since sorted out!

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Okay, after finishing episode 2 my excitement for the series is already dwindling. I'm loving the practical sets and visual effects but as I originally feared when the series was announced – I'm worried they're trying to do too much with it. Also - when did actors forget they're robots?! The most convincing characters so far are Morrow and Kirsh, the rest just all blend into each other. And the soundtrack is killing momentum completely. Ironically, I loved Prometheus but everyone praised its visuals and complained about the acting and score and now here I am liking the show's visuals and hating on its acting and score lol... Ugh