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I liked Ripley8, but there's no better ending for Ripley than in Alien3. Alien Resurrection is the Jurassic Park of the Alien franchise. There no future for Ripley from there on, even if she made it alive.

But there was so much potential in the ending of Alien Covenant...

I like Alien3 for what it is and I did not care much about continuity, especially since all the characters except Ripley didn't make it to the next film. Even the xenomorph is not the same from one film to the next. And it seems the producers / writers / directors did not care much for continuity either. 

But when I look again at the ending of Alien Covenant, man, that's the first time when I need to see some continuity.

Everyone has their opinion. And, as it happens, I share the above opinions! But I didn't have to overthink it. I just like Covenant for what it is. I know it backwards, like all the Alien movies, and really rate it.

Who knows how Alien 3 would have fared without the terrible studio interference that was inflicted on Fincher. It could have been a great film instead of a patched-together mess.

It's a nice enough monster, but

- the small number of fingers make it look crippled. The original Alien was scarier.

- An Alien is scarier if it doesn't snarl or howl like a deranged dog. Slavering in virtual silence, like the original, is far more menacing. Screaming in pain, like in Aliens, I can accept, and they are cool. The screams are part and parcel of being a self-serving deadly monster.

Absolutely.

I like Alien3...But killing off Newt,Hicks, Bishop...was just a little too much for me.

Not to mention: why was the Sulaco hovering above a prison colony? How did the Facehugger get aboard...stuff like that...

Love the Alien3 soundtrack...But I like Alien Covenant's soundtrack even more!

AC has a lot of flaws...but none I put in the Alien3 cate'gory '.

Pandorum?

Thanks, but I don't think it was Event Horizon. More recent, maybe last 10 years. And I think fairly low-budget.

I wouldn't kill Call off, perhaps her old body is destroyed and she is transplanted in a new body (would be great work around Winona Ryder's age or if they recast her with a younger actress) and have her and Ripley relationship to slowly deteriorate over the coarse of the Film. Which forces Call to battle Ripley.

R8 transforming sounds pretty good, but if it would be a continuation of Resurrection, Call would have to have a role. The way the movie ended, they seemed like a package deal- unless they pull an Alien 3 and Call dies in the first couple minutes. It might be tricky since a lot of people don't want the franchise to be a Ripley story anymore, but I would be down with it.

Event Horizon?

Although I'm one of those fans who would like to see xenomorphs hives over and over again.

I do like option 3 the most. Because further improvements on the xenomorphs would certainly make them more dangerious.

Because Option 2 would make them too much like either the Zerg or Species 8472. Also the rapid evolving shtick is now over-used in sci-fi: Zergs, Species 8472, Shin Godzilla, G-virus mutants, Marvel Villians, DC Villians, Cylons, and Terminators

Option 1 i'm not a fan of because it renders the Engineers/Space Jockey importance moot, not to mention AVP-movie fans would connect the yaut'ja to the xenomorph's creation which no offense to the Yaut'ja but I don't think they don't look like the type of species to create artificial life.

@Thoughts_Dreams

I was thinking of a villain route for Ripley 8, like Alien Resurrection is her start of darkness; as I mention above. It would indeed erase her marvel super-hero characterization that was setted up in Resurrection and return to the cosmic horror story of the original alien. Hell I would even suggest that she would gradually molt into a xenomorph-like creature as her humanity slowly disappears over the coarse of the story. 

thanks for the comment bro - if it helps - if you research Prometheus and covenant you'll find Davids alien was based on the engineers design, his own brand so to speak. The details for that are mainly in the cannon books and scripts - so if you look closer into the story you'll see he merely copied or tried to make a close approximation. that made me feel better about it all as i really didn't like that he was the creator. hope you like the audio :)

Leto:

You can probably involve philosophy and the Engineers but to me I need the human journey to be the important thing. Corporate power is real so that is why I think that it is important to have it, I do not think that it is boring but rather important to bring up since it affects us all.

Shit happens, maybe there is really not very much news to speak of? It does not mean that Disney does not care about it. They bought it so maybe they are thinking about what they shall do with that. At least there are some things that there is going on.

There might be a combination of what has been written. They have not had many news regarding the franchise in general this year, right? If they have not written much about it I guess that there is no reason for them to keep all the news to 26 of April, right?

Covid-19 might have something to do with it, at least it has not made the situation better. I am more worried about that compared to no alien news, you got to keep things in perspective. Keeping a good health should be a bigger priority.

". . . what kind of Career can she expect?"

NBA! :D

"Speed, Strength, Skill as well as Regenerative Ability"

Who would not like to have her in their team? It's effing obvious :D

As far as Ripley in movies is concerned she is done. Someone could write about her clone in some fan-fiction but other than that they should let it rest.

My favorite is the second one from the left, that is the original right?

I like the size of it, the mouth is not too big and not too small. Even though the queen is a good design it is kind of ridiculous. She is too tall and too big and even though it might work when you watch the movie it becomes less so when you think about it.

The Newborn looks dumb, but at least it looks different. One of the things that is interesting about the franchise is that the monsters always look different from one movie to another but that there are things that always connect them. I wonder how much of a job that it is to make new ones so that you will not repeat what has been done before. Maybe it is easy in the beginning but imagine when you reach movie number four it might become more difficult.

You forgot about the AVP's. ;)

That is interesting even though having David being responsible for the monster sucks balls. I like to see how people can create their own alien related things be it music, drawings or what ever it might be.

thanks guys - im really enjoying writing the story to accompany it - check out the link to the treatment via  yumpa in the sound cloud description :) xx

Oh shi... that's cool. I like the menacing, offensive style. It seems as if I saw the trailer for the next film.

Pretty good sound mix and build up. 

Possibly being more refined versions of Fitfield (deleted scene version), tiny pale abominations that have no humanity in them.

As a sub plot, they could have a basketball contest.

While David could sink a shot while riding a bike, the ball definitely rattled in the rim and shook the back board. Two points nonetheless I suppose. However, R8 sunk a half court shot (in real life) behind the back- and nothing but net- swish! A 3 point shot. Something to consider.....

Nice topic!

I think David will be around during the time of Ripley 8 and may have supplied the queen and samples to the military?

Also....David may have upgraded to 25th century tech by then...and be quite formidable.

Yeah...what would Ripley 8's children look like?

The children of Ripley 8 might be a better story.

Sandovers, what does ghosts that have to do with ALIEN?

All the more reason for her inevitable metamorphosis. The xenomorph genes takes completely over, her drive to survive becomes twisted and so does her hate. She becomes the very monster she sought to destroy and is now she and her offspring would become the new terror in the frontier of space. 

R8 already hates everything. She barely cares enough to carry on. She is about survival with just enough humanity to not harm anything that doesn't get in her way. She seemed aimless at the end of Resurrection but also had a sense of awe at what might happen.

I don't consider Ripley 8 then same character as Ellen Ripley. So any accomplishments Ellen Ripley made, shouldn't carry over to Ripley 8. Also I think eventually Ripley 8 would become the very thing she hated, especially if David 8 is involved. Probably would accelerate the xenomorph genes laying dormant inside her.

David would get his queen.

@DK Please no, I do not want that route for the Alien Franchise. It sounds too much like a super-hero movie. Ripley 8 should evolve into an antagonist, like she starts off heroic in the beginning but slowly starts to metamorph into the very thing she hates. Like what happened to the protagonists brother in the werewolf movie Bad Moon

David 8 create xenomorphs.

Ripley 8 destroy xenomrohps.

Endless eight.

The beginning and the end.

Ridley knew what he did. xD

I think David will be admired by Ripley. I'm not sure who will win, if they fight. David is stronger than human. But Ripley has part of the power of xenomorph. And xeno much powerful than androids.

I think that their strength will be approximately equal. And victory will depend on experience, skill, specific circumstances and luck. But certainly not from physical indicators.

Perhaps Ripley will break his arm, and David will flatten her nose. xDDD

And then they will go to a bar to discuss how they got to such a life.

As a clone, I think R8 would have a limited life span. She (yes, she) would have to get something done fairly quickly before dying, sort of like the O.G. Big Chap. I would like that "Something" be both her and Call bringing themselves to WY/Walmart's doorstep and basically raise all kinds of hell.

You sold out humanity for a percentage and we are your dividends.

Something like that.

The unforeseen consequence of Ripley 8's partial xenomorph biology is what I was talking about. Xenomorphs tend to molt over the coarse of their lives and some even undergo further metamorphosis. It wouldn't make much sense that Ripley 8 would live a normal human life. Its not a big stretch for Ripley 8 to undergo further biological changes as she ages. I believe Ripley 8 would eventually develop an exoskeleton, she would still retain somewhat of a human appearance but her xenomorphic nature would grow stronger and stronger the longer she lives.

So Ripley 8 getting a job, she'll eventually eat her human employers or try to force mate with them to spawn more Hybrids. I think this would suit Ripley 8 better than being a psuedo-super hero character which is out of place in the Alienverse.

I'd like to see Ripley 8 get a job. Something to give her purpose.....

Like finding out what happened to all those colonies that went missing in the 22nd century.

Earth doesn't care what happened to them(they have their own problems..besides colonist's wanted there freedom and didn't want earth snooping on them).

I'd like to read about Ripley 8 visiting these lost colonies.

Is this an automated distress call? Why did the LV426 juggernaut's trigger? On the death of the pilot?

David seemed oblivious to why the Covenant was there.

And he'd know a distress signal wouldn't reach more than a few star systems...the chances of a wandering spacecraft would be remote. ...if he really wanted company...he'd set up a beacon and broadcast a really enticing message.."Found alien cities! ancient humanoids!  come one, come all!"

I think David knew humanity would make it to this planet sooner or later...maybe in a thousand years...and he'd be waiting for them.

It seems David specifically wanted human specimens if the song was meant as a lure. In the larger universe with other possible sentient explorers, the melody would likely have been meaningless.

I believe that the recording of Shaw singing Take Me Home served a dual purpose.

I believe David wanted her to send out a signal that could attract others to them under the pretense of an SOS (in reality a trap to garner more specimens for his experiments), and thought that the song was a viable SOS while also being recognized as being of human origin.

While at the same time I believe Shaw was at this time scared of David and suggested the song as a way of letting anyone caring to unravel her story to know that she no longer wanted to seek out answers and just wanted to go home.

That said, there is always the possibility that Shaw was complicit with David's plans, or possibly even laid out these plans for David to follow.

@ignorantGuy, Alien Covenant is available on iTunes encoded for 4K HDR with Dolby Atmos.

Big Dave I agree if anything happens it will be the play it safe route in The Force Awakens vein. It doesn't help that's what most of the fan base would prefer anyway due to the polarizing nature of the prequels.